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April 23, 2015, 09:26:50 AM
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Hi support,

I have a question. What does it means? "Bonuses should be claimed within one (1) month". I should understand it how ? I was wondering about it.

For eg: If I deposit 1BTC + 1BTC (100% bonus) = 2BTC

Wagering 30x: 2BTC x 30= 60BTC

I must wager 60BTC within one (1) month or I must claimed 1BTC (bonus) within on1e (1) month ?

I sincere thank you!
if you deposit 1 btc you will not get another 1 btc as bonus instantly you will have to wager 30x with your initial deposit to claim the bonus of 1 btc. if you'll be unable wager 30x within a month then your bonus will be lost.




















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April 23, 2015, 09:34:39 AM
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Even though we have written in the rules that "Bonuses should be claimed in one month", we don't use this rule. There was a mistake in the text and we will remove that sentence. 

You can continue wagering for as long as you want unless you don't withdraw anything. That means that you can spend even 5 months wagering, but you should not withdraw anything during that time if you want to get full 100% deposit bonus.

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April 23, 2015, 09:39:02 AM
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Even though we have written in the rules that "Bonuses should be claimed in one month", we don't use this rule. There was a mistake in the text and we will remove that sentence.  

You can continue wagering for as long as you want unless you don't withdraw anything. That means that you can spend even 5 months wagering, but you should not withdraw anything during that time if you want to get full 100% deposit bonus.

Yes, your real bonus is different from what the bonus term says. And another error is video poker house edge, did you read "troublesome96" and my discussion? They are in previous page. Do you prepare a bounty for "troublesome96" and me?

30X rollover is not easy, your bonus is not instantly added to the account. For only 1btc bankroll, playing blackjack may be useful, but bj only contributes 20%, wager 150BTC and left 0+ money is also difficult.
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April 23, 2015, 01:54:15 PM
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Your Joker's Wild video poker information page (https://fortunejack.com/game/videopoker/)
shows the house edge to be only 1.40%.





Using the pay table on the game itself, (no multipliers that I have seen)
I am showing the house edge to be 4.54%.

Have I messed the numbers up, possibly missing something?

Or are your numbers incorrect?

EDIT: I apologize if this has already been covered in the thread. I did not read all the way through it.

I am also confused by their return, I think their number may be wrong. I use a video poker calculator: http://www.winnergambling.com/casino-tools/video-poker-payout/, the expect return is 95.15%



So I just wonder which expect return is correct. I prefer 95.15% one.

I use a calculator as well, but it is a bit more involved than the one you reference imo, although the results are still very close.
I checked out the calculator that you posted and the default pay table for Joker's Wild that is preloaded into it revealed the 1.4%* house edge.
(*My calculations show the standard pay table provides a 1.4013% house edge.)

I will show them side by side below:

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Either, fortunejack needs to correct their info to reflect a ~4.7% house edge or change the payouts.

FortuneJack, I view this as a major issue that is just as important, if not more important, than a wallet security bug.
I would hope we are on the same page in this regard. I, also did not see a house edge percentage posted at all regarding blackjack. I will look into that next.

Should I post this to the bugbounty email? or would you rather just pm me here?
I have not read the whole thread, but I would assume this has not been mentioned otherwise it would have already been corrected one way or the other. Surprising to say the least because the thread is ~6 months old.

P.S. fox, I do not think you would prefer the 95.15% unless you are the house.

Thank you for the research you conducted regarding the Video Poker House Edge, but you are forgetting "Rebet" button. FortuneJack is the only crypto casino offering Rebet after last draw, meaning if you have let's say 4 of a kind after two draws, you can go for 5 of a kind by drawing 3rd time, this increases the chances of striking more winnings, thus lowering house edge to 1.4%.

We have made some mistakes before calculating house edge and had 3 rebet options available for the players, that set House Edge to - 17.2% (negative), where players won around 40 BTC in several minutes while playing with the bug, obviously we payed them out but since then, we decided not remove 'Rebet' from the game, as it makes the game unique in the crypto industry (these winnings were discussed in the thread).

None of the calculators you provided include Rebet option, so comparing regular types of gameplay and payout to the Video Poker provided on FortuneJack, is a mistake.

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April 23, 2015, 02:40:28 PM
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Thank you for the research you conducted regarding the Video Poker House Edge, but you are forgetting "Rebet" button. FortuneJack is the only crypto casino offering Rebet after last draw, meaning if you have let's say 4 of a kind after two draws, you can go for 5 of a kind by drawing 3rd time, this increases the chances of striking more winnings, thus lowering house edge to 1.4%.

We have made some mistakes before calculating house edge and had 3 rebet options available for the players, that set House Edge to - 17.2% (negative), where players won around 40 BTC in several minutes while playing with the bug, obviously we payed them out but since then, we decided not remove 'Rebet' from the game, as it makes the game unique in the crypto industry (these winnings were discussed in the thread).

None of the calculators you provided include Rebet option, so comparing regular types of gameplay and payout to the Video Poker provided on FortuneJack, is a mistake.

Thank you, I didn't play your video poker before because it shows connection errors, if I have a chance, I will try your "rebet" option.

It is innovative so we can have more chance to make money, awesome rebet feature, never see it in other casinos.  Grin

BTW, one question, can we see rollover progress in account page?
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April 23, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
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BTW, one question, can we see rollover progress in account page?

rollover? dont you mean the wagered progess for this? No there isnt any feature to see the wagered percentage in your account page.

Unlike other sites which needs you to achieve 100 % before you can withdraw or get the bonus , in fortunejack you can get even the smallest amount after you wagered them

i.e if you depositted 10,000 doges you will get 10,000 doges with the requirement to wager to 300,000

300,000 / 10,000 = 30 : 1 which means each times you wagered up 30 doges you will gain 1 doge instantly . Of course each game got its own wagered contribution but the math stands the same, 30 doges wagered then you can claim 1 doge instantly

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April 23, 2015, 05:45:16 PM
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what's up with the password field? i'm able to see my password instead of asterisks. change the input type to password.  Undecided




















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April 23, 2015, 07:46:58 PM
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what's up with the password field? i'm able to see my password instead of asterisks. change the input type to password.  Undecided

I was just about to point that out earlier. The password in in plaintext now. Nice catch.



Edit: Screenshot was from 1.5hrs ago, but I noticed it ~12 hours ago. I do not know if it was always like that. It just stuck out at that time.
This occurs in the latest versions of chrome and firefox browsers.
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April 23, 2015, 08:23:25 PM
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Video Poker REBET bug. It does not show the price to rebet (appears to be 2x base bet from my test).



This occurs in the latest versions of chrome and firefox browsers.

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April 23, 2015, 09:42:08 PM
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what's up with the password field? i'm able to see my password instead of asterisks. change the input type to password.  Undecided

I was just about to point that out earlier. The password in in plaintext now. Nice catch.



Edit: Screenshot was from 1.5hrs ago, but I noticed it ~12 hours ago. I do not know if it was always like that. It just stuck out at that time.
This occurs in the latest versions of chrome and firefox browsers.
there's no problem in the latest version of any browser, the problem is in site they have set input type as text the input type should be set as password.




















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April 23, 2015, 10:02:47 PM
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Thank you for the research you conducted regarding the Video Poker House Edge, but you are forgetting "Rebet" button. FortuneJack is the only crypto casino offering Rebet after last draw, meaning if you have let's say 4 of a kind after two draws, you can go for 5 of a kind by drawing 3rd time, this increases the chances of striking more winnings, thus lowering house edge to 1.4%.

We have made some mistakes before calculating house edge and had 3 rebet options available for the players, that set House Edge to - 17.2% (negative), where players won around 40 BTC in several minutes while playing with the bug, obviously we payed them out but since then, we decided not remove 'Rebet' from the game, as it makes the game unique in the crypto industry (these winnings were discussed in the thread).

None of the calculators you provided include Rebet option, so comparing regular types of gameplay and payout to the Video Poker provided on FortuneJack, is a mistake.

Thanks for the response and opening my eyes up a bit more. I did not know the rebet option was an additional draw. I assumed it was to place your bet again. And it is a very unique option.

What cards does the rebet draw from? All remaining and discarded? Only remaining? or a whole new deck (which would make card duplication possible)?

I will re-run the numbers once I understand it fully to post my actual findings.

Through my playing I discovered it costs an additional 2x the base bet which effectively reduces the pay table to 1/3 of the value. This is because you do not win for both hands drawn. You only win for final hand. You mentioned changing the times allowed to rebet/redraw before because of the negative house edge, but from reading the posts at that time, you also reduced the royal flush payout from 500 to 300 (possibly others?). Other payouts are severely handicapped and I am not seeing how the rebet option can overcome this to such a great extent to get to the 1.4%. At face value, it appears to be more of a house advantaged prop bet except in very limited circumstances. For example, at quick glance, I do not see it ever being profitable except on the pay table from 4 of a kind and higher, possibly only straight flush and higher and only in very specific situations and depending on the answer to the above questions.
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April 24, 2015, 06:39:32 AM
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I see 3 visual errors. using firefox

1: Password is visible
2: Chat Button is abit too wide
3: Instant Coin Exchanger the button is wrong position

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April 24, 2015, 07:29:24 AM
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I see 3 visual errors. using firefox

1: Password is visible
2: Chat Button is abit too wide
3: Instant Coin Exchanger the button is wrong position


We have changed the Log In system visually today, passwords are no longer visible. Check it out now.

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April 24, 2015, 08:02:40 AM
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I see 3 visual errors. using firefox

1: Password is visible
2: Chat Button is abit too wide
3: Instant Coin Exchanger the button is wrong position


We have changed the Log In system visually today, passwords are no longer visible. Check it out now.

Working correctly now. Thanks.

Edit: Although now there seems to be some connectivity issues and much of the front page is in Russian even though English is selected.
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April 26, 2015, 07:27:56 AM
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I see 3 visual errors. using firefox

1: Password is visible
2: Chat Button is abit too wide
3: Instant Coin Exchanger the button is wrong position


We have changed the Log In system visually today, passwords are no longer visible. Check it out now.

Working correctly now. Thanks.

Edit: Although now there seems to be some connectivity issues and much of the front page is in Russian even though English is selected.

Did you credit fast2fix with finding a bug and compensate him?
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April 26, 2015, 08:27:26 AM
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I see 3 visual errors. using firefox

1: Password is visible
2: Chat Button is abit too wide
3: Instant Coin Exchanger the button is wrong position


We have changed the Log In system visually today, passwords are no longer visible. Check it out now.

Working correctly now. Thanks.

Edit: Although now there seems to be some connectivity issues and much of the front page is in Russian even though English is selected.

Did you credit fast2fix with finding a bug and compensate him?
that was just a visual glitch, no harm could've been done with that glitch so that not a bug no bounty for that heh. thanks for your concern though.  Smiley




















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April 26, 2015, 08:35:51 AM
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I see 3 visual errors. using firefox

1: Password is visible
2: Chat Button is abit too wide
3: Instant Coin Exchanger the button is wrong position


We have changed the Log In system visually today, passwords are no longer visible. Check it out now.

Working correctly now. Thanks.

Edit: Although now there seems to be some connectivity issues and much of the front page is in Russian even though English is selected.

Did you credit fast2fix with finding a bug and compensate him?
that was just a visual glitch, no harm could've been done with that glitch so that not a bug no bounty for that heh. thanks for your concern though.  Smiley

No harm could be done from a plain text password field? I don't even know no how to respond to this. If it was not an issue then why even bring it up? and why was it corrected (if it was not an issue)?

Still waiting on a response to the hidden amount to rebet on videopoker? I bet it for a while until I realized it was actually twice the base bet.
Video Poker REBET bug. It does not show the price to rebet (appears to be 2x base bet from my test).



This occurs in the latest versions of chrome and firefox browsers.

Edit: Thanks for bringing up an issue that was, according to you, not even relevant.
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April 26, 2015, 10:26:46 AM
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I see 3 visual errors. using firefox

1: Password is visible
2: Chat Button is abit too wide
3: Instant Coin Exchanger the button is wrong position


We have changed the Log In system visually today, passwords are no longer visible. Check it out now.

Working correctly now. Thanks.

Edit: Although now there seems to be some connectivity issues and much of the front page is in Russian even though English is selected.

Did you credit fast2fix with finding a bug and compensate him?
that was just a visual glitch, no harm could've been done with that glitch so that not a bug no bounty for that heh. thanks for your concern though.  Smiley

No harm could be done from a plain text password field? I don't even know no how to respond to this. If it was not an issue then why even bring it up? and why was it corrected (if it was not an issue)?
i pointed out that glitch because it looked odd to me to see my password.




















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April 26, 2015, 10:10:08 PM
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Hi,

someone know how JWD Bingo works?

Now, at 23:00 i was in the Bingo room with other 10 people and a total of 646 ticket... but i never seen a number and no winners.

Why?

Where is the 1 BTC prize? It's a fake?


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April 27, 2015, 07:21:09 PM
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Hi,

someone know how JWD Bingo works?

Now, at 23:00 i was in the Bingo room with other 10 people and a total of 646 ticket... but i never seen a number and no winners.

Why?

Where is the 1 BTC prize? It's a fake?



if you won it would show up on your balance.

its legit ive won from 1btc bingo giveaway before
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