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April 28, 2012, 01:49:35 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.

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April 28, 2012, 06:19:55 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.

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April 28, 2012, 11:40:09 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.
I really don't know what you are saying. In science and the real world, nothing is proven. You are asking me to believe you, which I probably do.

Any significantly advanced cryptocurrency is indistinguishable from Ponzi Tulips.
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April 29, 2012, 01:25:05 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.
I really don't know what you are saying. In science and the real world, nothing is proven. You are asking me to believe you, which I probably do.
Now I have no idea what you are saying. Nothing is proven? What?

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April 29, 2012, 02:23:33 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.
I really don't know what you are saying. In science and the real world, nothing is proven. You are asking me to believe you, which I probably do.
Now I have no idea what you are saying. Nothing is proven? What?
You show me some anonymous addresses that you could have found anywhere and claim they are yours. OK, so what? That proves nothing. If you are going to make a claim, then you need to offer testable evidence that can be verified independently. One possible way would be to give me your private keys and I could see for myself.  Tongue

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April 29, 2012, 02:33:11 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.
I really don't know what you are saying. In science and the real world, nothing is proven. You are asking me to believe you, which I probably do.
Now I have no idea what you are saying. Nothing is proven? What?
You show me some anonymous addresses that you could have found anywhere and claim they are yours. OK, so what? That proves nothing. If you are going to make a claim, then you need to offer testable evidence that can be verified independently. One possible way would be to give me your private keys and I could see for myself.  Tongue

He could sign a statement with the addresses' privatekey to verify himself.
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April 29, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
Last edit: April 29, 2012, 02:56:43 AM by cbeast
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.
I really don't know what you are saying. In science and the real world, nothing is proven. You are asking me to believe you, which I probably do.
Now I have no idea what you are saying. Nothing is proven? What?
You show me some anonymous addresses that you could have found anywhere and claim they are yours. OK, so what? That proves nothing. If you are going to make a claim, then you need to offer testable evidence that can be verified independently. One possible way would be to give me your private keys and I could see for myself.  Tongue

He could sign a statement with the addresses' privatekey to verify himself.
So he is using a signature to prove that Silk Road doesn't exist? OK, I'll bite. Besides, that doesn't prove they are his only that he has access to them. This is getting silly trying to explain epistemology and the scientific method to a troll. You can't prove things in RL, you can only show evidence. In mathematics, you can prove perfect geometric shapes, but you cannot find them in nature. Proving an address exists doesn't prove anything about how it is used. Geeks get awfully goddam arrogant sometimes thinking they have answers for everything with a simple algorithm or formula.

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April 29, 2012, 04:35:05 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.
I really don't know what you are saying. In science and the real world, nothing is proven. You are asking me to believe you, which I probably do.
Now I have no idea what you are saying. Nothing is proven? What?
You show me some anonymous addresses that you could have found anywhere and claim they are yours. OK, so what? That proves nothing. If you are going to make a claim, then you need to offer testable evidence that can be verified independently. One possible way would be to give me your private keys and I could see for myself.  Tongue

He could sign a statement with the addresses' privatekey to verify himself.
So he is using a signature to prove that Silk Road doesn't exist? OK, I'll bite. Besides, that doesn't prove they are his only that he has access to them. This is getting silly trying to explain epistemology and the scientific method to a troll. You can't prove things in RL, you can only show evidence. In mathematics, you can prove perfect geometric shapes, but you cannot find them in nature. Proving an address exists doesn't prove anything about how it is used. Geeks get awfully goddam arrogant sometimes thinking they have answers for everything with a simple algorithm or formula.
Proving silk road doesn't exist? wtf are you going on about...

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April 29, 2012, 06:17:22 AM
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Can you *prove* the identity of any Bitcoin transactions?
There's plenty of published addresses.  For example, my firstbits are in my signature.  You can see I've sent a few transactions with that address.

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/4401755/cd7f8895d2a3ad006972105f596fd7cd4661f1f81a6ae370bf7d14f79ef7db03

This transaction links a bunch of my addresses and clearly contains a donation to Armory.
Since I don't know you from Atlas, I'll just have to take your word that those addresses did not pass through a criminal's nose.
I wasn't talking about criminal activity at all.  I was stating that I can prove the identity of some Bitcoin transactions and you asked if "any" could be.
I really don't know what you are saying. In science and the real world, nothing is proven. You are asking me to believe you, which I probably do.
Now I have no idea what you are saying. Nothing is proven? What?
You show me some anonymous addresses that you could have found anywhere and claim they are yours. OK, so what? That proves nothing. If you are going to make a claim, then you need to offer testable evidence that can be verified independently. One possible way would be to give me your private keys and I could see for myself.  Tongue

He could sign a statement with the addresses' privatekey to verify himself.
So he is using a signature to prove that Silk Road doesn't exist? OK, I'll bite. Besides, that doesn't prove they are his only that he has access to them. This is getting silly trying to explain epistemology and the scientific method to a troll. You can't prove things in RL, you can only show evidence. In mathematics, you can prove perfect geometric shapes, but you cannot find them in nature. Proving an address exists doesn't prove anything about how it is used. Geeks get awfully goddam arrogant sometimes thinking they have answers for everything with a simple algorithm or formula.
Proving silk road doesn't exist? wtf are you going on about...
Heh, this is where the red herring was thrown in. I added a wink emoticon and someone had to start a major troll over it. I fell for it because I was bored and I was on my mobile.

bitcoin *is* a local currency. It's the currency of a niche of nerdy crypto-anarchists so far.
You forgot drug dealers, human traffickers, and assassins.  Wink

can you prove that?

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April 29, 2012, 04:38:13 PM
Last edit: April 29, 2012, 04:52:00 PM by Red Emerald
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Heh, this is where the red herring was thrown in. I added a wink emoticon and someone had to start a major troll over it. I fell for it because I was bored and I was on my mobile.
There was no "major trolling" done by anyone in this topic... Except maybe by you.  You brought up crime and trolling and silk road and even Atlas... Take a breath...

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April 29, 2012, 06:01:04 PM
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Heh, this is where the red herring was thrown in. I added a wink emoticon and someone had to start a major troll over it. I fell for it because I was bored and I was on my mobile.
There was no "major trolling" done by anyone in this topic... Except maybe by you.  You brought up crime and trolling and silk road and even Atlas... Take a breath...
You, if anyone, should know that sarcasm is lost on some people and others twist words into their own agenda. That to me is the very definition of trolling. That was done when Moonshadow asked me to prove that Bitcoin is not ever used to buy drugs, which to me seemed ludicrous. I wasn't trying to change the topic, hence the emoticon. I think the whole SR thing has people's sensibilities all loopy. Get over it.

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