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April 29, 2012, 10:58:08 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/syh3p/cam4btc_the_first_bitcoin_camming_site_no_fees/

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April 29, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
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I have been on the site thrice, one time there was no one on it at all and the other 2 times it was basically an internet video chat room with a bunch of bitcoin dudes. hilarity ensued both times. soon there is sure to be actual girls on the site and then it should get really interesting.

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April 29, 2012, 11:22:59 PM
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http://i.imgur.com/vNj3S.png

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April 29, 2012, 11:32:19 PM
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YES!!! Someone finally made a cam site!!

Still buggy, and needs work, but I already saw boobs there.
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April 29, 2012, 11:34:56 PM
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As did I

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April 30, 2012, 12:07:14 AM
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Woohoo!
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April 30, 2012, 12:19:01 AM
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I'm going to check it out down. Hope there's girls with zits.

~Cackling Bear~

Edit: No joy! Nobody on. No girls with zits. So sad! Anybody seen my socks?
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April 30, 2012, 02:42:14 AM
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lmao @ you guys' responses. 
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April 30, 2012, 03:21:05 AM
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I'm going to check it out down. Hope there's girls with zits.

~Cackling Bear~

Edit: No joy! Nobody on. No girls with zits. So sad! Anybody seen my socks?


you scared everyone away

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April 30, 2012, 03:26:05 AM
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I'm going to check it out down. Hope there's girls with zits.

~Cackling Bear~

Edit: No joy! Nobody on. No girls with zits. So sad! Anybody seen my socks?


you scared everyone away

I don't think so! It seems one of the videos is also on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1cqhnj--GY
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May 01, 2012, 05:35:09 PM
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Lol totally missed this topic. For a pointer to my own thread about www.cam4btc.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.0

I registered the .com domain name to stop virus scanners from listing it as suspicious merely due to the co.cc domain name. Also I have added some fixes that greatly improve stability. Please report any further issues Smiley
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May 01, 2012, 05:58:54 PM
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Lol totally missed this topic. For a pointer to my own thread about www.cam4btc.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.0

I registered the .com domain name to stop virus scanners from listing it as suspicious merely due to the co.cc domain name. Also I have added some fixes that greatly improve stability. Please report any further issues Smiley

Why would you ever buy a .co.cc name when the .com is available? Smiley
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.co.cc are free  Grin

Anyways there is a naked girl on the right now. Come check it out!
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May 01, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
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Dammit!  I can't load the site!  FRAPS that shit!
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May 01, 2012, 06:24:22 PM
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.co.cc are free  Grin

Anyways there is a naked girl on the right now. Come check it out!
Pity you can't broadcast and watch at the same time. I've been streaming some video, but I can't see any other action at the same time.

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May 01, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
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She left again. Yesterday there were loads of guys waiting for a girl, now there was a girl and no guys. I think I need to add a scheduling feature Smiley

Anyways: why can't you load the site?
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May 01, 2012, 06:26:45 PM
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Dammit!  I can't load the site!  FRAPS that shit!

I had the same problem. Found the correct ip using dig and put this in hosts file:
31.170.162.127 www.cam4btc.com

I have no idea why it's not resolving in browser though...
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May 01, 2012, 06:28:49 PM
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She left again. Yesterday there were loads of guys waiting for a girl, now there was a girl and no guys. I think I need to add a scheduling feature Smiley

Scheduling would be nice. Or maybe subscription for email notification when a model comes online.
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May 01, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
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Or maybe subscription for email notification when a model comes online.

BINGO! Integrate immediately this feature Smiley
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May 01, 2012, 06:41:27 PM
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Come visit live show! www.cam4btc.com, login and click Sheryl.
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May 01, 2012, 06:47:08 PM
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Sooo, can we change the video quality? I have a 15mbps fiber upload here, no reason to have it stuck on low.

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eset blocks all sites ending in cc
I alerted them of one site like that that i used and they put it in the whitelist

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eset blocks all sites ending in cc
I alerted them of one site like that that i used and they put it in the whitelist
Well that's pretty lame. I guess I haven't run into any .co.cc sites before, so I didn't know that.

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Yes I'll make that configurable, atm it is hardcoded at 30KB/s @24 frames per second. I'm thinking about lowering the frame-rate for the default quality setting.

@farfiman that's why I registered the cams4btc.com domain name Smiley
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Wouldn't load on my iDevice because of flash. Now doesn't load at all. Overloaded?

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I doubt it only 5 people only next to the model (and only me and another guy on the models stream). Could you try again?
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May 01, 2012, 07:37:20 PM
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Sa-weet!!!  Saw two titties.  I'm laughing my ass off.  The power of bitcoins.
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Can we get the Queen of Bitcoin (BTC tat on her coochie) on the camming site?
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I doubt it only 5 people only next to the model (and only me and another guy on the models stream). Could you try again?
Now it loads... the 'You need flash' page. I pledge 5 BTC spending on the girls once i can watch them on my iDevice.

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Sa-weet!!!  Saw two titties.  I'm laughing my ass off.  The power of bitcoins.

until theirs boobs 24/7...

if we could see a tentative schedule, that might help




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Can we get the Queen of Bitcoin (BTC tat on her coochie) on the camming site?
Oh I forgot about her!  What has she been doing?
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Version 0.5 is out

I added this request:

We need to have a way to open or join a room via URL.

I would like to be able to use this as a live video support channel like "Click here for help with your Bitcoin client".

There are a million different ways to use this kind of service, with Bitcoin, in a non-sexual way. We just need to put our thinking caps on.

Just type in the url: http://www.cam4btc.com/index.html?channel=CHANNELNAME and after the user logs in for the first time it will automatically connect with that channel if it exists

Further additions in v0.5:

* I found out the server is disconnecting a lot. I need to use another server but in the meantime I made an automatic reconnect function. It will thrownotification message to inform the user
* I fixed the incorrect number of viewers and incorrect join/leave messages
* Quality control for the broadcaster. Note that you can only change those when you are not broadcasting (click stop broadcasting)

As always hit control+f5 and make sure you are using version 0.5 Enjoy Smiley
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May 02, 2012, 07:26:40 PM
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Are you trying to replicte MyFreeCams?
@Phinaeus  There are a lot of girls over there, your bound to find someone with zits.

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Its built in Flex that can 100% be ported to an apple device very easy btw. for whoever was on about it.
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Are you trying to replicte MyFreeCams?
@Phinaeus  There are a lot of girls over there, your bound to find someone with zits.

Hadn't heard of that site before I created the site. They use a central server however whereas this is totally peer to peer for audio/video distribution. Further this is totally anonymous plus pretty lightweight to tip with Bitcoin (+ cost efficient for small amounts)

Its built in Flex that can 100% be ported to an apple device very easy btw. for whoever was on about it.

Yes it can. It already works on Macs but I need to repack the program as a standalone program for IPhone/IPAd. I need to check how to distribute that though (plus I cannot test it since I don't own anything Apple related).
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Are you trying to replicte MyFreeCams?
@Phinaeus  There are a lot of girls over there, your bound to find someone with zits.

Getting myfreecams to accept bitcoin would be awesome. But for now Smiley


Hadn't heard of that site before I created the site. They use a central server however whereas this is totally peer to peer for audio/video distribution. Further this is totally anonymous

Totally anonymous? If this is using p2p for the distribution, can't I tell who my peers are (and therefore who is watching the same cam) by IP?

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Then get the girls to come to www.cam4btc.com! Tongue

Regarding anonymity: IP addresses are hidden by a layer of abstraction. Even in code I have no access to ip address, just ids which are larges hashes.
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Then get the girls to come to www.cam4btc.com! Tongue

Regarding anonymity: IP addresses are hidden by a layer of abstraction. Even in code I have no access to ip address, just ids which are larges hashes.
If I watch my network traffic, I won't see the IPs that I'm sending to and receiving from? Are you sure about that? That sounds impossible without something like Tor.

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I have been looking for you and I can't tell for sure. What I do know for sure is that the system uses swarming. So you don't send the data to all the peers you are streaming to but only a subset that send it on.

What I also meant with anonymity was the fact that you don't have to sign up, verify your information etcetera which I presume a lot of these server side solution will ask of you (because you use server side resources by streaming).
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BTW check this article out: http://mycamgirl.net/behind-the-scenes/post/top-20-highest-tips-on-myfreecams

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But other girls also got huge tips. So, I decided to do a research to find out who are those luck girls. Surprisingly, I found out that many girls have got huge amounts and quickly I realized that my idea of high tip (around 5,000 – 10,000) is actually a normal tip for many girls. Also a surprise was the anonymous tips with high amount. Mellanny, for example, got 68,000 tokens from an anonymous member.

For those who don’t know, depending on how the member buys the tokens, the price may vary from $0.08 to $0.10 per token. However, the girls always get $0.05 per token. Which means that, for example, the 260,000 token tip that Mila got, the member paid around $20,000 or $26,000 (depending on how he paid for it) and she got $13,000. The new biggest tip (467,040), the member paid between $46,704 and $37,363 and it is equal to $23,352 to the model.

So the site takes between 35% and 50% of the tips. With a peer to peer system (low server requirements) and Bitcoin as payment method a site can be very profitable with much lower fees (or actually no fees if ads +donations are enough).

BTW that are some huge as tips. $35k-$45k is a single go is the record. Tongue
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Anyway, your website seems down 99% of the times that I try to give a look :|

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Anyway, your website seems down 99% of the times that I try to give a look :|
Yeah the DNS has issues. From some servers/locations the lookup works, but from others it doesn't.

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I was really hoping for more exciting snapshots Tongue

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Which means that, for example, the 260,000 token tip that Mila got, the member paid around $20,000 or $26,000 (depending on how he paid for it) and she got $13,000

Sweet Jesus that is some fee.

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I think that integrating your service with something like dailybitcoins/coinad will help a lot.
This because people will come to your website "everyday" just to take their free 0.001 bitcoin!
So they will see everytime all the opened webcam-channels Smiley

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What a wonderful site!

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I think that integrating your service with something like dailybitcoins/coinad will help a lot.
This because people will come to your website "everyday" just to take their free 0.001 bitcoin!
So they will see everytime all the opened webcam-channels Smiley

That is smart.

Seals would sponsor that for a while if you want.

Man in general that is a genius idea. For anything that has variable coolness and you need people to check back frequently just make sure they know there will be free bitcoins.

I suppose I kind of did this at Seals. In the beginning of course there were no games. Having a freeroll every hour kept people coming anyway.

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Seals would sponsor that for a while if you want.
Hmmm, can you make something like a widged that you can enable/disable when ever you want?
People can come to you ( your website ) and ask for sponsoring.
Than you will give the code to embed the widget on their site where ever they want.

The widget will be something like this, example:

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Take your free 0.001 Bitcoin, insert here your address: [     ]
[captcha] [button send]
Sponsored by sealswithclubs!
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Seals would sponsor that for a while if you want.
Hmmm, can you make something like a widged that you can enable/disable when ever you want?
People can come to you ( your website ) and ask for sponsoring.
Than you will give the code to embed the widget on their site where ever they want.

The widget will be something like this, example:

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Take your free 0.001 Bitcoin, insert here your address: [     ]
[captcha] [button send]
Sponsored by sealswithclubs!
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Hmm, faucet in a box.

Could make it so that many people can sponsor, just associate an address to sponsor in the wallet that pays out, then show the sponsor who is actually giving the millie. Rule could be to show the sponsor who has the most credit and deduct the credit from their amount while they are showing. The largest sponsor will show until they are equal to the second largest sponsor and it'll start switching between until there it gets down to the third then it would switch between the three and so on.

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New version available: 0.6.1 see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.20 for details. Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.

Regarding the faucet, thanks for thinking with me Smiley  I think it is a good idea, but is there any readily made software package? Is it just a form that sores the address? How would I built a large multiparty Bitcoin transaction of all these tiny numbers? And finally, FreeMoney, do you have that widget available you guys were talking about? Smiley
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Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.
I guess no one liked cartoons, oh well. Not one bitcent after streaming almost 120 episodes.

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Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.

Btw I think you need to find a way to enable volume adjusting..

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New version available: 0.6.1 see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.20 for details. Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.

Regarding the faucet, thanks for thinking with me Smiley  I think it is a good idea, but is there any readily made software package? Is it just a form that sores the address? How would I built a large multiparty Bitcoin transaction of all these tiny numbers? And finally, FreeMoney, do you have that widget available you guys were talking about? Smiley

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Ok, I'll look into this if I have the time. I'll probably just write it to a list and then do a manual sendmany if I get around to doing this (because this would require fewer testing).

Does anyone know the exact format for sendmany on the commandline? Is it:

sendmany accountOne {"Bitcoinaddress1":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress2":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress3":"0.001"}


Also, I have done some testing with a couple of users and the video quality has been greatly improved in v0.6.2 which has just been released.
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Ok, I'll look into this if I have the time. I'll probably just write it to a list and then do a manual sendmany if I get around to doing this (because this would require fewer testing).

Does anyone know the exact format for sendmany on the commandline? Is it:

sendmany accountOne {"Bitcoinaddress1":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress2":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress3":"0.001"}


Also, I have done some testing with a couple of users and the video quality has been greatly improved in v0.6.2 which has just been released.

Nice, if you get it up I'll give at least 10BTC to hand out. I think this is double nice because people can send the millies to performers too.

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Thanks a lot fro the offer. I'll see if I can manage Smiley

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I can't get it to work. When I enter my name and click Watch nothing happens. The FAQ says it's supposed to ask me to enable P2P assisted networking, but it doesn't. When I go into the Global Settings Manager, all the options for P2P assisted networking are disabled except for "Disable P2P uplink for all", which is unchecked. What am I doing wrong? I'm using Flash Player 11.2.202.235.

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Can a girl be on both sites at the same time?
That would make a transition easier.

Also if it is very anonymous like you say, you should advertise that as a advantage.



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I can't get it to work. When I enter my name and click Watch nothing happens. The FAQ says it's supposed to ask me to enable P2P assisted networking, but it doesn't. When I go into the Global Settings Manager, all the options for P2P assisted networking are disabled except for "Disable P2P uplink for all", which is unchecked. What am I doing wrong? I'm using Flash Player 11.2.202.235.

Hi, thanks for the report too bad it isn't working automatically for you. The system is supposed to ask for p2p privileges after you go from the login-screen to the watching/stream list screen. If you don't make it there it means the connection to the server I use to introduce the peers to each other (called a Rendez Vous server). There can be 2 reasons for this:

1) The firewall on your computer, router or corporate network doesn't allow outbound UDP traffic. You can go to this site to get an analysis by adobe of your connectability: http://cc.rtmfp.net/ (post a screenshot if you can't make sense of the analysis yourself)
2) The Rendez Vous server had a accidental hiccup (I am still using a free solution for this, this will change as the site gets more popular). Please try again and see if it works.

Also, in the login screen it used to trow a popup telling the user it failed top connect. I changed that to not do this this but instead attempt to reconnect on every failed attempt (so basically indefinitely) without giving user feedback. What do you think of this choice? Would you prefer to be notified of this and if so how?

Good luck with getting this to work  Smiley
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Can a girl be on both sites at the same time?
That would make a transition easier.

They certainly can! If they use flash player for the other site as well it will work out of the box, just start my site as well. If they use another program for the streaming they'd need a solution such as ManyCam (which I think a lot of cam girls use) because only one program can lock a device (camera/microphone) at the same time. Either way it will work as long as their bandwidth is high enough to support both methods of data transmission.

Also if it is very anonymous like you say, you should advertise that as a advantage.

I was talking to a guy on the site yesterday who said his girl tried to join MFC once but didn't go through with it because she had to give so much personal details to be allowed on the site. Further I agree that it is really anonymous and this is one of the unique selling points of this solution. If you look at my opening post (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.0 or any of the reddit channels I posted) you see that the very first thing in the list of advantages is * No signup, so complete anonymity. Do you have concrete ideas for me to advertise this more or did you just happen to miss that thread?

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http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/syh3p/cam4btc_the_first_bitcoin_camming_site_no_fees/
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1) The firewall on your computer, router or corporate network doesn't allow outbound UDP traffic. You can go to this site to get an analysis by adobe of your connectability: http://cc.rtmfp.net/ (post a screenshot if you can't make sense of the analysis yourself)
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Knows public IP address of self (no NAT): NO
Public UDP port number same as local UDP port number: YES
Can receive from same IP address, same UDP port number: YES
Can receive from same IP address, different UDP port number: NO
Can receive from different IP address, different UDP port number: NO
Can send to different IP address after server introduction: YES
Source IP address is preserved from original connection: YES
Source UDP port number is preserved from original connection: YES
Everything looks good to me, except for the fact that I'm behind a NAT. Please tell me that doesn't mean I don't get to see boobies. Cry
EDIT: Never mind, it's working now. Rendez Vous server must have gone down temporarily. Also, some way to adjust the quality would be preferable. Right now it's more than what my connection can handle, and decompression errors are a real turn-off. Undecided

Also, in the login screen it used to trow a popup telling the user it failed top connect. I changed that to not do this this but instead attempt to reconnect on every failed attempt (so basically indefinitely) without giving user feedback. What do you think of this choice? Would you prefer to be notified of this and if so how?
To be honest, I think it's a stupid choice. It should only attempt to reconnect N number of times before giving up and displaying an error message. Sure, dropped packets might cause it to fail to connect one or two times, but if it keeps failing to connect several times in a row, that's a pretty clear sign that something is seriously wrong and it's never going to connect.

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It's definitely not the blocking of UDP messages or something. Your cc.rtmfp.net page is exactly the same as mine, so that definitely isn't blocking you from seeing boobies Smiley

I PM'ed you about what you can do try to help debug this.

I'll change the code to stop trying after 3 reconnects (it times out in 30 seconds,so that would be 1.5 minutes) and report it to the user in the form of an alert box. Thanks for the feedback.
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Cam4BTC has moved to a new host as riush (member here at Bitcointalk) has generously offered to host both the website and the other server software I need for free until further notice. This should bring stability and allows me to keep the software up-to-date.

I have updated the DNS but this can take up to 48 hours to propagate (it is usually much faster though). Press control+F5 and if you see you are running v0.8 you know you have made the switch.
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Version 0.9 is out. I added a scheduling mechanism: Broadcasters can schedule shows and both broadcasters and viewers alike can view the schedule. This way people will know when someone will be on in advance and can check back.

I hope this will help with broadcasters and viewers finding each other Smiley
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v0.9.1

* Improved audio quality
* Added option music for broadcasters of music. This will increase the audio quality for music

Also, if a broadcaster stops and restarts stream, audio will resume quickly while the video just freezes for a while. After a while (like 30 seconds) it does go o, if you want this to be quicker just go to and leave full screen mode and it will continue immediately. I have not been able to mimic this programmatically yet so I'm working on that Smiley
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http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/tkcug/considering_doing_a_sesh_on_cam4btc_tonight_if/

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Yesterday night we had a record of 29 people online at the same time and 2 broadcasts at the same time. I want to thank dino_rawr and ENTerTheDragonfly for performing the broadcasts.
Also thanks to everyone that came to watch.
I wasn't there myself due to it being in the middle of the night in my timezone but I got reports of people that really enjoyed it Smiley

Note that at 9:00 am hours PST there is a scheduledShow by DarlingLA. Log in to the site to see what time it is in your timezone! Smiley

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This is awesome. Keep up the good work.

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I was there... rockin job! the girls were very excited to be using the service and judging by the comments, so were the other guys.

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Awwhhh too bad i missed that!  Shocked
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Thanks for the kind words guys. Really appreciated Smiley

@Gabi: there are 2 more scheduled shows at the moment. Don't miss'em Wink

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can you make the bitcoin link display a QR code somehow? sometimes I need to tip with my phone.

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It's not easy to understand what this means:



The DarlingLA show is the 14 may at 19:00 hours?  But 19:00 what? Or it is 19 hours from now?
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can you make the bitcoin link display a QR code somehow? sometimes I need to tip with my phone.
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It's not easy to understand what this means:
DarlingLA show is the 14 may at 19:00 hours?  But 19:00 what? Or it is 19 hours from now?

It did take me a couple seconds to figure it out, but its days:hours until the show begins.

I suggest an ISO date like "2012-05-14 2100" but a count-down timer is convenient too.

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Nah it's military time in the timezone your computer is set to. So 19:00 hours on the 14th, which is 7 pm (in your timezone). Looks like you are in my timezone Gabi Smiley

regarding the QR code I'll look into it. Hopefully it can be done with a lightweight library. I have never used QR codes because I don't own a smartphone so I'll have to figure out what is actually encoded in there first Tongue

Finally I just added a notification sound in v0.10.1 for every channel join as per request of one of the performers.

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I'll have to figure out what is actually encoded in there first Tongue

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/URI_Scheme#Examples

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Announcing: Live show at the moment.
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some young lass from london is showing her 'bits' as I type this

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but a count-down timer is convenient too.

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some young lass from london is showing her 'bits' as I type this

Well, that was a fake.

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Yes it is. I am sorry, nothing really I can do about it though except maybe put on a big beware section where I tell people to always ask for verification?
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Ok... next feature is a vote ban for fuckin fakes.

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Doesn't work in my ipad.

Kidding, I don't have that shit. Any technical details? is that a proprietary platform?

I connected for a bit. 4 channels: 1 shy girl, 1 gross video loop, 1 dude, 1 couple and it was mostly the shirtless hobo looking dude on cam.

Still, it worked fine.

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There is a girl on now called Amanda. She is legit, she touched her nose after we asked her to.

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feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.

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feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.

that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js


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Hi,

I didn't have the chance to see cam4btc service yet because I'm on a tablet that has no flash support, but I would like to suggest a feature:

1- I think should have an option where lovers add a preview like photos and schedule a fuck.
2- The lovers will only fuck if they receive 100% of bitcoins previously established
3- If they don't get the total of bitcoins previously established, the people who sent bitcoins will be refunded.


This goes against everything the creator wachtwoord was aiming for. He wants a complete anonymous and he wanted that all bitcoins to go directly to the person on cam. Plus this service can be used for so much more things than just sex, he just knows that will be a main driver and is embracing it. 

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feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.
that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js

... almost. Knowing how to somehow forge a link is a cheat. Seeing this link in the browser's address bar or inside the channel is a feature.

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feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.
that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js

... almost. Knowing how to somehow forge a link is a cheat. Seeing this link in the browser's address bar or inside the channel is a feature.

to be honest the creator wants it to be minimalist UI and this is becoming too overwhelming so I think that works fine, and it works so it is a feature LOL

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Hi,

I didn't have the chance to see cam4btc service yet because I'm on a tablet that has no flash support, but I would like to suggest a feature:

1- I think should have an option where lovers add a preview like photos and schedule a fuck.
2- The lovers will only fuck if they receive 100% of bitcoins previously established
3- If they don't get the total of bitcoins previously established, the people who sent bitcoins will be refunded.

This goes against everything the creator wachtwoord was aiming for. He wants a complete anonymous and he wanted that all bitcoins to go directly to the person on cam. Plus this service can be used for so much more things than just sex, he just knows that will be a main driver and is embracing it. 

Although this is true, my more exact response would be this (since I think this can be arranged with as much anonymity as is present now):

1) I will add the ability to upload preview pictures, both for live channels and for the scheduled list (separate and completely optional). It's not on top of my to do list though Smiley
2) Although I don't say I will never do it, at this point I don't want to be an escrow for this automatically (also due to security reasons, right now there are no Bitcoins (private keys) actually residing on the server, I like that Smiley) you could of course arrange such things among yourselves or do it based on trust.

If I would arrange escrow I would:
1) store a pre-generated set of empty addresses I control on the server
2) When someone needs an escrow address release that for that scheduled Show
3) After the show manually release it to the performers or send it back to where it came from if there was no show

As to still keep all payment external to the server.
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feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.
that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js

... almost. Knowing how to somehow forge a link is a cheat. Seeing this link in the browser's address bar or inside the channel is a feature.

to be honest the creator wants it to be minimalist UI and this is becoming too overwhelming so I think that works fine, and it works so it is a feature LOL

While I want the UI to stay minimalistic I also agree this is not the most user friendly feature (it isn't even documented outside of this thread lol). I just added as it was a direct request and I didn't put it in the GUI because this wasn't straightforward and I didn't think regular users would find it extremely valuable (as in other things have higher priority).

Thank you all for the feedback though. Judging on the reports I got about shows things seem be getting off the ground now Smiley
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Nah it's military time in the timezone your computer is set to. So 19:00 hours on the 14th, which is 7 pm (in your timezone). Looks like you are in my timezone Gabi Smiley

regarding the QR code I'll look into it. Hopefully it can be done with a lightweight library. I have never used QR codes because I don't own a smartphone so I'll have to figure out what is actually encoded in there first Tongue

Finally I just added a notification sound in v0.10.1 for every channel join as per request of one of the performers.


Oh ok

Well my suggestions are
1)remove the space at the : so instead of 19 : 00 have 19:00
2)put the date and the time in the same line, so have like 5/15/2012 19:00 instead of having 5/15/2012 -calendar symbol- 19:00

As it is now the hours looks like a countdown, since it is separated from the date, wich is in his own square
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I'll have a look at that thanks for the suggestion Smiley
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Doesn't work in my ipad.

Kidding, I don't have that shit. Any technical details? is that a proprietary platform?

I connected for a bit. 4 channels: 1 shy girl, 1 gross video loop, 1 dude, 1 couple and it was mostly the shirtless hobo looking dude on cam.

Still, it worked fine.

Hi I missed this post before. Yes the platform I have build is proprietary.

Thanks for the feedback, I am glad it is working as intended for you Smiley
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Hi I missed this post before. Yes the platform I have build is proprietary.

Thanks for the feedback, I am glad it is working as intended for you Smiley

It's an interesting project. Thanks for your work, I hope it pays off.

How do you plan to port it to HTML5? If you don't mind sharing some details in private I'd appreciate. I'm currently too busy to help substantially but I'm still curious about the solution. Looking forward to see more :-)

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Converting to HTML5 would be a good idea.  It would remove almost all dependencies besides a modern browser.  Youtube is already half HTML5 if you turn it on in your options.  Works great for me.
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Converting to HTML5 would be a good idea.  It would remove almost all dependencies besides a modern browser.  Youtube is already half HTML5 if you turn it on in your options.  Works great for me.

Last time I checked websockets were an extremely inferior solution to Flash sockets for P2P (or anything requiring several simultaneous connections). In any case I'd expect it to be challenging.

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Flash is supported on 99.9% of the systems. HTML5 (especially the cam and microphone interface part) is supported on almost none (I think really none, but not sure what the current state is, I did research ~4 months ago for my work and chose Adobe Flex then as the most suitable technology).  Next to that I doubt HTML5 will natively support peer2peer transferring of content.

I do think HTML5 will win in the end though, really nice standard. Will take at least 2 years though (likely longer).
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Plus there is another show by EntertheDragonFly in an hour Smiley


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1) Made the notification sound optional
2) Detect when BlockChain.info is down and allow the user to go on without donation address verification if this is the case

I didn't have more time. I got so many ideas for when I do Tongue

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Lot of action today on the site.  I would say this website has been a success so far.

Also, the scammer that injected fake video loops and got about $15 worth of BTC was quite entertaining.
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Also, the scammer that injected fake video loops and got about $15 worth of BTC was quite entertaining.

A man's praise in his own mouth stinks. Wink

Yes, it was interesting to know how he does it. He streamed snippets of video of a barely moving sleepy girl and had some snippets available to switch to (smile, nod, ...) at a click. He has trouble with sound as that would be harder to loop and he's a he so dubbing his own videos would not be easy.

Taken it's a lot of preparation and requires the guy sitting by makes me believe him when he says it's just for fun.

Only thing that annoys me about this is that I tipped him (I tipped all girls to get their interest although my video is totally broken and I was more fascinated by the site than the girl but I want to see this project take off)

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please don't! add a block user function for the performer before you have some scam-alert in place. Fortunately many users bother to warn others about loops but if they can be banned for that, there is a problem.
Sure banning will be needed, too at some point.

Maybe in the meantime write something like "smiling to the camera is no verification. Expect performers to interact with you like greet you. Remember that greeting you in the chat is the easiest thing to script"

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A man's praise in his own mouth stinks. Wink

Yes, it was interesting to know how he does it. He streamed snippets of video of a barely moving sleepy girl and had some snippets available to switch to (smile, nod, ...) at a click. He has trouble with sound as that would be harder to loop and he's a he so dubbing his own videos would not be easy.

Taken it's a lot of preparation and requires the guy sitting by makes me believe him when he says it's just for fun.

Only thing that annoys me about this is that I tipped him (I tipped all girls to get their interest although my video is totally broken and I was more fascinated by the site than the girl but I want to see this project take off)

It's not hard to do.  I used to do that shit on ChatRoulette a while back... Here's how:

http://www.ehow.com/how_12209816_loop-video-chatroulette.html

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A man's praise in his own mouth stinks. Wink

Yes, it was interesting to know how he does it. He streamed snippets of video of a barely moving sleepy girl and had some snippets available to switch to (smile, nod, ...) at a click. He has trouble with sound as that would be harder to loop and he's a he so dubbing his own videos would not be easy.

Taken it's a lot of preparation and requires the guy sitting by makes me believe him when he says it's just for fun.

Only thing that annoys me about this is that I tipped him (I tipped all girls to get their interest although my video is totally broken and I was more fascinated by the site than the girl but I want to see this project take off)

It's not hard to do.  I used to do that shit on ChatRoulette a while back... Here's how:

http://www.ehow.com/how_12209816_loop-video-chatroulette.html

nah he had material explicitly prepared for that. not just a loop. very static blurry girl and when somebody wanted her to tip her nose or wave he played the respective video seamlessly. 15 vids in total.

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Yeah very interactive, he had like a storyboard or something of videos that he could choose to play when somebody asked for something.  The somewhat seamless transition was really cool, it looked like the video cut out or something and boom she was doing what you asked.  It was hilarious.
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Well at least he worked for it, sounds like he earned it  Wink

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And now he has the honour of being the first banned user on cam4btc.com Smiley

I got home 11 pm from work and just wrote the code to ban him. Please report other wrongdoers from now on and I'll see if they should be banned. (I really hoped this wasn't necessary but I don't like scammers at all Sad)
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And now he has the honour of being the first banned user on cam4btc.com Smiley

I got home 11 pm from work and just wrote the code to ban him. Please report other wrongdoers from now on and I'll see if they should be banned. (I really hoped this wasn't necessary but I don't like scammers at all Sad)

slippery slope warning Smiley good luck with the banning. It will only get worse though.

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I think that Bitcoin has HUGE potential in webcam stripping etc. I believe that this could become a big hit.

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I think that Bitcoin has HUGE potential in webcam stripping etc. I believe that this could become a big hit.

I whole heartedly agree.. and combine this with various working salary levels of different countries... it may just be the thing that causes the network effect that Bitcoin needs to explode sooner than later.

For example, I absolutely LOVE Vietnamese women and other ethnicities typical of 3rd world countries. I might lose a LOT of Bitcoin to that genre of adult entertainers. Tipping amount that may seem meager to someone in a first world country to someone in a 3rd world country may be very well accepted. Now all of the sudden independant people in these economically challenged situations have a service to provide to the entire world and Bitcoin is extended where it would not have been. Exchange services start showing up in those locations, traditional businesses start wanting a piece of the global currency, etc..

I'm very excited for this.

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I have some requests that might improve the btc side of cam4btc:
  • URI and QR code support
  • show the amount received by the posted address since the beginning of the broadcast
  • include 0-confirmation sends in this
  • detect and filter double spends from this (can't do anything about finney attacks, but they're tips, so it's probably not a big deal)
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I have some requests that might improve the btc side of cam4btc:
  • URI and QR code support
  • show the amount received by the posted address since the beginning of the broadcast
  • include 0-confirmation sends in this
  • detect and filter double spends from this (can't do anything about finney attacks, but they're tips, so it's probably not a big deal)


It would be very cool if everyone saw a tip come in realtime. But no worry about double spends here imo.

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There is a girl now
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A beautiful one  Smiley
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And now he has the honour of being the first banned user on cam4btc.com Smiley

I got home 11 pm from work and just wrote the code to ban him. Please report other wrongdoers from now on and I'll see if they should be banned. (I really hoped this wasn't necessary but I don't like scammers at all Sad)

slippery slope warning Smiley good luck with the banning. It will only get worse though.

I totally agree. I think in the end a community must evolve which will order content based on appropriateness (I'm not too knowledgeable about Reddit but I think this is what they do). This is too complex to do now (it is not the most valuable to most users right now) so I had left it out completely. Now something happened which caused it to be valuable to ban users (most users are annoyed by a scammer for instance) so I solved with the most simple (and imperfect) solution of just banning the user and playing dictator.

I have no intentions of staying dictator as my ambitions are to become the medium everybody uses. The people (yes users of the site) can then jointly decide what they prefer and what not. For now I really believe however other things a re more important then me stopping being a dictator in this. I hope my promise not to be the dictator forever will suffice for now as I expand the platform beyond it's beta stage Smiley
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I thought this was "bitcoin scamming site" Cheesy
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I think that Bitcoin has HUGE potential in webcam stripping etc. I believe that this could become a big hit.

I whole heartedly agree.. and combine this with various working salary levels of different countries... it may just be the thing that causes the network effect that Bitcoin needs to explode sooner than later.

For example, I absolutely LOVE Vietnamese women and other ethnicities typical of 3rd world countries. I might lose a LOT of Bitcoin to that genre of adult entertainers. Tipping amount that may seem meager to someone in a first world country to someone in a 3rd world country may be very well accepted. Now all of the sudden independant people in these economically challenged situations have a service to provide to the entire world and Bitcoin is extended where it would not have been. Exchange services start showing up in those locations, traditional businesses start wanting a piece of the global currency, etc..

I'm very excited for this.

Thanks a lot I agree. Have you ever heard of a service online (I think from India) where normal people in the west can afford a personal assistant by choosing a PA from India? You will have to collaborate remotely and across timezones, but it is still affordable to ask him to jut go Google for a day for a day searching for simple stuff which you wouldn't give yourself time for (nor would want to do).

Another example is Mechanical Turk (which has a Bitcoin variant). Not there is cam4btc for peepshows Wink
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I have some requests that might improve the btc side of cam4btc:
  • URI and QR code support
  • show the amount received by the posted address since the beginning of the broadcast
  • include 0-confirmation sends in this
  • detect and filter double spends from this (can't do anything about finney attacks, but they're tips, so it's probably not a big deal)


It would be very cool if everyone saw a tip come in realtime. But no worry about double spends here imo.

I have a ll the above on my todo list expect double spend protection as I think this is not something to worry about in a pure tip system. Think of it as leaving tip on a table in a restaurant. You are not worried other guests will steal it before the waitress retrieves it.

BTW: The tip thing is on top of the todo list rightly after solving some small bugs
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Minor release v0.10.5 to stop people from injecting HTML code into other people's chat window doing things like muting the chat.
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I just checked to see if the broadcaster can boot people from their channel and heard it was in the works.

Was thinking this could be used as a way for broadcasters to enforce "pay to stay" where they'd give out unique bitcoin addresses to incoming viewers that they must pay to in order to stay.  Anything like this, but more automated, in the works?

Could they also have the option to close the channel to new visitors?
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I just checked to see if the broadcaster can boot people from their channel and heard it was in the works.

Was thinking this could be used as a way for broadcasters to enforce "pay to stay" where they'd give out unique bitcoin addresses to incoming viewers that they must pay to in order to stay.  Anything like this, but more automated, in the works?

"pay to stay" goes against what the site was setup for and the vision of a p2p camming site. Also he doesn't want to handle any bitcoin transactions, that is again a vision of the site, the bitcoins go directly to the users.

Also side note, "pay to stay" works in other sites cause people aren't willing to shell out their money. On this site I have seen people tip as much as they can from 0.005 BTC to 5.00 BTC . So that automation would be worthless and just hurt the cam girl.

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It may end up being a by-product of another necessity and/or use case... In some circumstances, it may be in everyone's interest to kick/ban people at the whim of the broadcaster.

payments dont need to be handled by the cam site.. broadcasters can relay unique payment addresses on screen or via chat. perhaps even PM if that becomes available in the future.

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Also he doesn't want to handle any bitcoin transactions, that is again a vision of the site, the bitcoins go directly to the users.
He wouldn't.  The broadcaster would be handing out their own addresses.

So that automation would be worthless and just hurt the cam girl.
Or the tutor, which is what I currently have in mind Smiley

Which brings me to my next question: is screencasting in the works?
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Which brings me to my next question: is screencasting in the works?

My understanding is there are virtual cam devices for windows that let you select inputs like a real webcam or screencast session. I'm trying to find a linux solution for this and didn't really pay attention to the names of the windows ones when I was poking around.

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This may be feature creep territory here, but to make this really suitable for tutoring, it'd be nice if the viewers could request that the broadcaster pull up their screencast to play in a window beside theirs, so that communications can become 2-way (or more).  Would that be possible, or is it too far out of scope?

Edit: I know there's the chat, but that's not too suitable for entering math equations...

Further edit: Maybe math is too niche for this feature Smiley
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Also he doesn't want to handle any bitcoin transactions, that is again a vision of the site, the bitcoins go directly to the users.
He wouldn't.  The broadcaster would be handing out their own addresses.

In your first post it was automation which if it was automated would then need the user to always put in their bitcoin address to just view and some people may not like that. Also how would the broadcaster know who address is whose? This would cause so many fights and angry people that would just stop coming to the site. The site is simple if you like the broadcaster, or what they are doing on cam. You tip, your over complexing this simple idea.

So that automation would be worthless and just hurt the cam girl.
Or the tutor, which is what I currently have in mind Smiley

Which brings me to my next question: is screencasting in the works?

It would hurt the tutor as well Smiley Believe me anytime there is a "pay to view thing" people will never pay, as much as if they feel they got things out of the lesson. I know especially for a tutor I wouldn't pay until i figured out if their teaching style helped me learn or not.

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In your first post it was automation which if it was automated would then need the user to always put in their bitcoin address to just view and some people may not like that. Also how would the broadcaster know who address is whose? This would cause so many fights and angry people that would just stop coming to the site. The site is simple if you like the broadcaster, or what they are doing on cam. You tip, your over complexing this simple idea.
Eh?  I figured the broadcaster would just give the site a batch of addresses, and the site's software would apportion them to the individual viewers, granting access once payment was received.  No automation is fine, though, I was just curious.

It would hurt the tutor as well Smiley Believe me anytime there is a "pay to view thing" people will never pay, as much as if they feel they got things out of the lesson. I know especially for a tutor I wouldn't pay until i figured out if their teaching style helped me learn or not.
Well reputation/word of mouth would probably help here.  The tutors I know get a lot of their students that way.  None that I know of work by donation either, though, but I'd rather not have this coversation here Smiley

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Pay to stay sounds like easy to implement. At least assuming the author wants to get a way of telling who tipped how much.
If this is implemented I see no problem in setting up a pay to stay/proof you have bitcoins option. It would become normal that if you want to see one performer more than one minute in one day you would have to pay something to the address given or if he defined a min price, that price.
This would definitely keep stupid spammers at distance, at least most of them.

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Pay to stay sounds like easy to implement. At least assuming the author wants to get a way of telling who tipped how much.
If this is implemented I see no problem in setting up a pay to stay/proof you have bitcoins option. It would become normal that if you want to see one performer more than one minute in one day you would have to pay something to the address given or if he defined a min price, that price.
This would definitely keep stupid spammers at distance, at least most of them.

I see a couple of big issues with pay to stay. One is every time I want to login I will have to supply a bitcoin address, and that will remove the anonymity of yourself since now your linking a bitcoin address to your user name.

Second issue, some of the people I enjoy what they do and I want to tip them, other times I am just hanging out on there. Either way I should be in control of at what times I tip and not.

Third this is an easy way to scam people if implemented you can easily start a pay to stay channel, get a good round of bitcoins and leave. They should just do what they are doing and people tip along the way.

In conclusion pay to stay is dumb and shouldn't be implemented. It is hassle, it removes the core value of the site, and can be exploited to take advantage of people.

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I see a couple of big issues with pay to stay. One is every time I want to login I will have to supply a bitcoin address, and that will remove the anonymity of yourself since now your linking a bitcoin address to your user name.
Tip from an instawallet. Minimal trust required for insta/easy wallet. Automatically washes your dough if left there long enough.

Second issue, some of the people I enjoy what they do and I want to tip them, other times I am just hanging out on there. Either way I should be in control of at what times I tip and not.
Sometimes entertainers don't mind people hanging around and they are just there doing it for fun... but other entertainers might have other use cases. Atleast they have the option.

Third this is an easy way to scam people if implemented you can easily start a pay to stay channel, get a good round of bitcoins and leave. They should just do what they are doing and people tip along the way.
Reputation and verification. Don't tip until you know it's not a loop.

In conclusion pay to stay is dumb and shouldn't be implemented. It is hassle, it removes the core value of the site, and can be exploited to take advantage of people.
There are valid use cases for an entertainer to kick/ban (more secret squirrel stuff on this coming later). An entertainer abusing this feature would suffer a bad rep and we all ultimately have the control of our own purse strings.

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To sum things up:

1) Screencasting can be done via external software which mimics a camera and shows the screen on it
2) The site has been optimized for one way traffic of audio/video material.
   a) The stream has been set to half_deplex
   b) I have introduced a buffer time which would make it annoying talking to each other but works because audio/video is one way (this increases the quality tremendously)
(so for now, no, later perhaps as separate functionality)

3) Kicking or banning people from your own channel (read:not from the webiste) is something that I';ll be looking to add
4) Pay to stay does not seem like the best idea to me as the default option. I'd like the normal functionality to remain because of the low barrier of entry and because I firmly believe in the concept of tipping (voluntarily deciding what to pay).
I am planning to implement functionality for broadcasters to start a private stream to which they can invite certain people. I think this will enable the functionality you desire but please correct me if I'm wrong.

5) I do think the tutor idea is great (I have had the idea already as well)
6) @Tux, I never used iInstawallet so I have trouble deciphering what you mean there Tongue Could you please clarify?

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V 0.11.1: Automated detection of Bitcoin tips which are now shown in the chat channel as they occur!  

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* 0-confirmations (doing a double spend for a tip seems utterly retarded to me)
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6) @Tux, I never used iInstawallet so I have trouble deciphering what you mean there Tongue Could you please clarify?

Insta/EasyWallet is an online wallet system. InstaWallet does not actually keep your bitcoins for you, rather, it is a shared pool of Bitcoins. When you deposit Bitcoins, the ones you get back out will almost certainly not be the same Bitcoins you get out. (You have to watch the bitcoin address and wait for them to be removed, then when you withdraw, you get "new" bitcoins.).

My suggestion was to fund a Bitcoin wallet, so your coins automatically get washed and use that wallet to fund your tipping. As good anonymity as you can expect - if you trust InstaWallet to not be the FBI or vomit up log files at the slightest hint of desire for them.

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my point of pay to stay in general was that some streamers might want to only have watchers with bitcoins. they might want to set a price of 1 satoshi just to know the effort is worth it aka. the spectators are not some jerks in some internet cafe without bitcoins. i guess i would feel pretty stupid giving a lesson on anything finding out only later that they all would pay me in paypal ... but what was that bitcoin-thing?

pay to stay is not pay to enter, so the first x minutes could be free to not be vulnerable to loop-scammers.

with these 2 points i see a pay to stay as a valuable optional addition to the system that is not dumb and should be implemented Wink

WW: what wording would you suggest? broadcaster/watcher as on the button? streamer/consumer? source/sink? sender/receiver? performer/audience? teacher/student? host/guest? actor/spectator?
Some of these options are definitely better than others but I guess strongly supporting some wording can influence the direction the atmosphere on your site will be.

You said it again and again that the channels can be linked directly but for my baking-classes I need yet another feature. You know even with the direct link to the channel those old ladies happen to click at other channels all the time which is really a little embarrassing. Could you allow me to hide those other channels as a configuration of my baking channel? Or at least allow me to open my channel on some sfw.cam4btc.com or send those ... others ... to nsfw.cam4btc.com?

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I think that the spirit of the whole thing is better if it's simply tipping. One could eventually add an alternative method of pay to stay and simply let the entertainers choose though. Having both options would probably be best.

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my point of pay to stay in general was that some streamers might want to only have watchers with bitcoins. they might want to set a price of 1 satoshi just to know the effort is worth it aka. the spectators are not some jerks in some internet cafe without bitcoins. i guess i would feel pretty stupid giving a lesson on anything finding out only later that they all would pay me in paypal ... but what was that bitcoin-thing?

pay to stay is not pay to enter, so the first x minutes could be free to not be vulnerable to loop-scammers.

with these 2 points i see a pay to stay as a valuable optional addition to the system that is not dumb and should be implemented Wink

WW: what wording would you suggest? broadcaster/watcher as on the button? streamer/consumer? source/sink? sender/receiver? performer/audience? teacher/student? host/guest? actor/spectator?
Some of these options are definitely better than others but I guess strongly supporting some wording can influence the direction the atmosphere on your site will be.

You said it again and again that the channels can be linked directly but for my baking-classes I need yet another feature. You know even with the direct link to the channel those old ladies happen to click at other channels all the time which is really a little embarrassing. Could you allow me to hide those other channels as a configuration of my baking channel? Or at least allow me to open my channel on some sfw.cam4btc.com or send those ... others ... to nsfw.cam4btc.com?

Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you. This is a cam site, where turn on your cam and earn bitcoins if people enjoy your stream. You are looking to features that would complete destroy this making the site probably fail or make the admin mirco manage the site. I think you should be doing shows to prove that you actually need these features, I think you be very surprised, yet you never did a test run on the site, so I honestly think your opinion of features should be taken with a gain of salt. So stop requesting and actually make a stream and put it on the scheduler so we can all see.

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Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

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Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

Sad why you hate cooks?
And tutors?  They couldn't have students stumbling on all the porn either...
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Where is Team DeCrypto when we need them? Most of this is for them. What do THEY want? They should be sitting in on these design meetings with their naughty leather whips telling us what to do with our dirty little keyboards.

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Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

Sad why you hate cooks?
And tutors?  They couldn't have students stumbling on all the porn either...

Cause people like this have completely missed the vision of the site! You are trying to get features for a site that would only help you and not the community! I am on the site everyday and I have yet to see either of you actually put on a show, so I think once you put on a show and see it then you can make comments.

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Where is Team DeCrypto when we need them? Most of this is for them. What do THEY want? They should be sitting in on these design meetings with their naughty leather whips telling us what to do with our dirty little keyboards.

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Gweedo, you sound rabid  Cheesy  Relax, we're just throwing out ideas.  More uses for bitcoin is good for the "community" IMHO.  On a separate site is fine, too.  Nobody wants a mess of a site that tries to do everything for everyone.
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Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

Sad why you hate cooks?
And tutors?  They couldn't have students stumbling on all the porn either...

Cause people like this have completely missed the vision of the site! You are trying to get features for a site that would only help you and not the community! I am on the site everyday and I have yet to see either of you actually put on a show, so I think once you put on a show and see it then you can make comments.

gweedo it was just so funny that you took me for a cook Smiley

I'm a programmer and know how little extra effort it is to have 2 listings rather than one and as WW seams not to be passionate about the girls but rather about his idea in general, he should leave it to the community to use it to its capacity. NSFW links covering half the screen is just repelling 90% of potential hosts.

Lastly let me add that I am testing the site every day since I post here. Maybe I would use my real name or the nick familiar to you in a SFW section.

Thanx for putting the secret cook in me outside the community.

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I'm a programmer and know how little extra effort it is to have 2 listings rather than one and as WW seams not to be passionate about the girls but rather about his idea in general, he should leave it to the community to use it to its capacity. NSFW links covering half the screen is just repelling 90% of potential hosts.
I think we are all into the idea, but WW realized that this would be mostly used in sexual way, cause that is way the community would go in a webcam situation. He embraced that part of the community and instead of trying to filter it out or trying to stop it. Second this is the way most of the community is using it, and some people in the community use it for other SFW which I have also seen and tipped. I think the NSFW isn't repelling 90%, lets be realistic here it is probably like 5%, the most people online in one room was for one of these girls so lets call a spade a spade. Sex sells and this is just one thing that is taking advantage of that ride to then spawn into other things. To be honest my beef isn't with you but when your requesting only features you would use or that would just take up space on the site, or even worst that destroys the core visions, then I am going to express my opinion about how bad they are, and how stupid these ideas are and how they wouldn't work, that is what this forum is for. Also if I saw a good idea I would praise it.

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Lol at the discussions you guys. I like people are passionate about this, shows I am doing something right Smiley

Let me reply to this by (re?)iterating my vision:

I think people should be able to make money by providing any sort of service for which there is demand in a lightweight manner without paying excessive fees.
I think people should be able to to receive any sort of service and pay what they think is a fair price for this service without without paying excessive fees.

For non-physical personal services (think: entertaining and teaching) I am creating a solution which accomplishes this.

In this approach:

1) I use Bitcoin as a payment system because this is a solution which is necessary to make this work (Bitcoin is not the goal but the solution!)
2) I use a tipping system because I think this is the most optimal to:
   a) let people pay what they think is fair
   b) will also make more money for the broadcasters because of the replication power of computers and the internet. For the same amount of effort your service (e.g. a cam show) can be broadcast to as many people as there are people that are interested. Because of this the amount you need to make per watcher/consumer is far less. Next to this there have been experiments done (mainly at hotels and restaurants) where people are allowed to pay what they think is fair and this turned out to earn the same amount or more then simply charging. With the added replication effect this should result in way more income. Still, please observe that a tipping system is not a goal in itself but a means to an end

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This all being said I'll respond this the individual remarks:

1) Yes there is likely going to be a need to split the list. If only because the current solution does not scale at all. I don't think this is necessary now though as the site is still too small to be split or subdivided internally. Also, there isn't a list full of NSFW, still quite a portion of the time the site doesn't have an active broadcast at all. You say it's easy to split it in two, which is true for me, but it would force users to make another choice which isn't necessary at this point. Next to this, just splitting the site in two is still not particularly scalable as it would need a category system (may be also similar to Reddit) for that. I do like the idea of a split in SNFW/SFW someday as there possible uses of this service which would require the NSFW material to be blocked (think anything to do with children). (btw you say the NSFW listings fill half the stream, it will in the future hopefully, but right now: I'd wish Smiley)

You also ask for functionality which would block the complete stream list. if you are serious and want to do something particular with the site that requires that and are planning to actually use the site  at this moment when a categorical system has yet not evolved I'm willing to work with you and create a temporary solution. If not, I won't waste time on temporary solutions and let final ones evolve as the site grows naturally.

2) Like I said I will not be implementing pay to stay now at least because It is quite different form what I believe will work best. I mentioned private channels because that would keep people on my site instead of just using Skype when they want to arrange that but I'm not sure about that either yet.  May be just removing people from your channel is sufficient. You also say people don't want to  "perform" and then find out people have no Bitcoins. Think of the performers on the streets in major cities. They perform also for people that are never going to pay them, others do however which keeps them going. Now think of the scalability this would provide and the low amount of tipping people could do. With Bitcoin it is feasible to tip very low amounts without fees giving the broadcasters an income because there are (potentially) going to be so many of them.

3) Yes, I agree  the girls could give valuable feedback in this situation (I have received some via Reddit PM). Next time I see them I'll ask ENterTheDragonfly, Darling.LA and Dino Rawr to make an account here. If you are on the site and see broadcasters you can help and ask them as well whether they would like to join the discussion.
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Check it out! Cam4btc is 3rd! http://bitcoincounsel.com/charts/mostclicked  Grin
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Awesome!

As for using the website for "tutor" or "learning"... well yes it can be used for that but i think the website will be used for like +90% of the time for sexy things so of course it has to focus on NFSW
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As quite some of you have read cam4btc is unreachable because the hoster is down completely. I have been unable to reach him so I'll set up a temp server with limited functionality for now. Working on it now.

Sorry for the inconvenience, I am quite bummed out myself too
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And back up on the backup host without scheduling mechanism when the DNS resolves.

I reached someone that works with the guy that hosts my site on an open source project and he thought that he mentioned a trip and will probably be home on Monday. So until then it will be backup site. Note that ALL functionality except the scheduling mechanism will work Smiley
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LOL just after I moved it Riush cam onto IRC and fixed everything by rebooting the server. So, the site is backup now on the original host with full functionality.
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How do I decode the schedule times? Right now there is one at 05/21/2012 9:00 by darling.LA. Is that in my own time zone? Or is it GMT? Or some else entirely?
It would be nice if it reported which time zone, or according to my local time, or just plainly said "In 1 day, 5 hours and 13 minutes"

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Everything is automatically converted to the time zone set on your computer Smiley

I'll add it to the description, I thought it would make sense to a user everything is fine if I just didn't mention time zones altogether Tongue (I have had this feedback before the last couple of days)
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How do I decode the schedule times? Right now there is one at 05/21/2012 9:00 by darling.LA. Is that in my own time zone? Or is it GMT? Or some else entirely?
It would be nice if it reported which time zone, or according to my local time, or just plainly said "In 1 day, 5 hours and 13 minutes"


it is also in military time

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Okay I had some time to work in  the site today:

1) Totally revamped the channel members functionality making it reliable
2) Added a show members pop-up list to see who is currently on the channel
3) Added ignore functionality to the above list. Ignoring a user will hide all chat messages by that user. If a user leaves a channel and rejoins he will retain his ignored status with you. If he reconnects he will not be ignored because there is no way client side to differentiate between a genuine new user and an existing user that returns. This functionality is silent, ignored users will not know they are ignored.
4) Altered the Scheduled Show functionality to be more clear. I changed the wording and for the list of scheduled shows changed how the date is displayed. Is this more clear guys?
5) Went over the FAQ and added the functionality I added today. Explanation about quality settings and explanation of what the name colors mean is still out, don't want the FAQ to become so verbose no-one will read it Tongue

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Two more things:

1) Dino-Rawr is on! Come and see

2) Follow my Twitter account for updates: @Cam4BTC
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Wow, she's a beautiful girl
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please fix the chat scroll back. When I scroll up, it should not jump down for new messages. With 27 people in the channel this is important I guess.

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please fix the chat scroll back. When I scroll up, it should not jump down for new messages. With 27 people in the channel this is important I guess.

Now that you mention it, perhaps a scrollback on the video would be more "useful" lol

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please fix the chat scroll back. When I scroll up, it should not jump down for new messages. With 27 people in the channel this is important I guess.
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So what is the intended functionality? Auto-scrolling down seems way better then having to scroll yourself right?
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Let me explain

It must be autoscroll when you put the bar at the bottom

but, autoscroll must stop if i move the bar and i go read old messages

first part is fine now, but if i try to read an old message it's impossible cause as someone type something, it autoscroll down
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you could also give 10 messages scroll back for new people joining?

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Also, making the join and part messages a little less intrusive would be cool. Perhaps a smaller font and in grey, instead of red.


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1) I'll look into only scrolling when not on the bottom. That is just not very straightforward to do Smiley
2) ATM Chat is peer2peer like streaming and you can only only get messages if you are connected while they arrive. I could move it to server side and buffer 10 messages there but at this point I'm not sure I want to.
3) I could do that. I'll have to look and see, no clue what's lest obtrusive ... (right now they are red because all system messages are, like when a donation arrives).

However:

v0.12.3 has QR code support

If anyone would test it for me that would be great as I don't own a smart phone. Rigth now I am encoding: Bitcoin:$BitcoinAddress$
Please let me know if it is correct
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v0.12.3 has QR code support

If anyone would test it for me that would be great as I don't own a smart phone. Rigth now I am encoding: Bitcoin:$BitcoinAddress$
Please let me know if it is correct
I think Jan has fixed it now, but his mobile wallet used to choke on the capital B in Bitcoin, I believe the spec says it should be lower case.

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I had to go check and I have entered it lowercase by accident. So that shouldn't be a problem Smiley
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2) ATM Chat is peer2peer like streaming and you can only only get messages if you are connected while they arrive. I could move it to server side and buffer 10 messages there but at this point I'm not sure I want to.

if I get video and chat peer to peer where should there be a problem also getting a history peer to peer? I mean I would get the last 8 messages from somebody who also joined recently and maybe at the same time 10 messages from somebody else. giving messages a unique id to prevent them from popping up twice shouldn't be a big deal.

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2) ATM Chat is peer2peer like streaming and you can only only get messages if you are connected while they arrive. I could move it to server side and buffer 10 messages there but at this point I'm not sure I want to.

if I get video and chat peer to peer where should there be a problem also getting a history peer to peer? I mean I would get the last 8 messages from somebody who also joined recently and maybe at the same time 10 messages from somebody else. giving messages a unique id to prevent them from popping up twice shouldn't be a big deal.

this is IRC style leave it, otherwise just leave your computer on and you get all the messages Smiley

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I'm not saying it is impossible. it adds complexity. At the moment I don't even store them as separate messages on the client but rather format and filter them as required and add them to the html area.

Has anyone have had a chance to test the QR codes?
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Has anyone have had a chance to test the QR codes?

has anyone received .1BTC? Just sent to your 1cam4btc via Bitcoin Spinner.

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Yes I did thank you Smiley

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3 shows in the next 3 hours come and see.

1) Guy who just showed his GF in the shower as a teaser and will be on together in a little under an hour.
2) In a little over an hour Lady of the HR who I know nothing about
3) Dino Rawr in a little under 3 hours time.

Enjoy Smiley
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I like the "new tip received" notification and I think it would be even better if the color would stand out a little. I'm thinking bright yellow background with red/black letters. I got the idea from myfreecams. Why? Because when a model is dancing away from screen, the tip would be noticeable from distance. Different notification sound for tips would be another plus.
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Yup, a sound would be nice.

Anyway, less than half a hour for darling.LA show
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Also, making the join and part messages a little less intrusive would be cool. Perhaps a smaller font and in grey, instead of red.

I like the "new tip received" notification and I think it would be even better if the color would stand out a little. I'm thinking bright yellow background with red/black letters. I got the idea from myfreecams. Why? Because when a model is dancing away from screen, the tip would be noticeable from distance. Different notification sound for tips would be another plus.

Yup, a sound would be nice.

Anyway, less than half a hour for darling.LA show

For now I just made the join and leave messages less obtrusive, hopefully this will make the donation messages stand out more automatically as well.

I also added a permanent lobby to talk when there are no broadcasts.
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I noticed in the last couple of days (and Sunday-night/Monday morning in particular) that a lot of people were on that did not have Bitcoins (or even knew what they were) and some commented they did want to donate but did not know how. Also, I heard that people complain about being unable to use Credit Card or Pay-Pal to purchase Bitcoins.

Therefore I have made a deal with QuickBitcoins.tk to be featured on cam4btc.com. QuickBitcoins.tk accepts Paypal and credit cards (as well as many other payment systems, many of which are also accepted by other exchanges/vendors).

Disclosure:
Cam4BTC will receive a portion of the profit margin on every purchase made there through our website.

Disclaimer:

I have looked around and the only problems I found with the site is that they use a very similar the to bitcoinnordic.com. However:

1) This is based on a  freely available template
2) They claim to have sacked the site developer and will change the design of their website as soon as possible.

Other than that I was unable to find negative reviews about them and found the above insufficient to reject a partnership with them. I have however not personally used their service so please do your own due diligence.

Finally:

In the future I will have links to stripcoin.com by Tuxavant as well when he finishes the logo(s). Hopefully these additions combined will help people that are watching the streams in acquiring Bitcoins to donate to the  broadcasters Smiley
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You are doing a great job
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For now I just made the join and leave messages less obtrusive, hopefully this will make the donation messages stand out more automatically as well.

Thank you. I already have another request Smiley
I find it bothersome always having to enter my name... I know you already have ?CHANNEL= parameter functioning, could you add another NAME parameter, so we wouldn't need to enter or click anything to get in?
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That has already been present for some time Smiley

(I love requests for functionality already present Tongue)
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I need the previously requested feature for SFW-performers. Now for real.

If you don't have the man-power to do this, I could also help with that.
If you don't have the money to pay me, I would take a promise of shares of money generated via my feature.

What could work would be some stream4BTC that does not list channels but forward you to stream4BTC/host/UUID1
The host could get a guest-link stream4BTC/view/UUID2 to send to his visitors and an option to list the channel on cam4btc. I doubt though that many - especially pretty female - hosts would be happy to get disturbed by horny freaks when doing some non-porn presentation though.

If my feature request is totally wrong here, please point me to equally easy to use systems out there that I can show to women from very conservative countries without having to explain too much. Also I guess it is easier for many here to promote the technology with facebook posts if there is a sfw-section.

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Let's see if I got this right:

Basically you would like 2 things:

1) Make being listed on the channel list optional
2) Be able to provide a direct link to a channel (already implemented)

If this is the case it would be pretty easy and relatively indisruptive for people using the site as it currently works (a single checkbox added to the start a broadcast menu).

Did I get what you were aiming at?

Also, could you elaborate on what you are planning on doing with it (I'm curious)? If you don't list yourself, only people you explicitly sent the link to will find the channel. If you already know who you're going to give a video presentation to why would you/they want to use this system? Did I really make it lightweight and easy enough to be able to compete with already existing solutions for this? Smiley
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1) Make being listed on the channel list optional
To not get interrupted by horny guys, yes.

2) Be able to provide a direct link to a channel (already implemented)
It isn't. http://www.cam4btc.com/?CHANNEL=sdaf did not ask me for my name assuming me to be a viewer taking me directly to the show. It just behaved like the link without "channel". And if I used it wrong: an undocumented feature isn't a feature in my eyes anyway. There should be a link in the host's screen at least.

If this is the case it would be pretty easy and relatively indisruptive for people using the site as it currently works (a single checkbox added to the start a broadcast menu).

Did I get what you were aiming at?

Also, could you elaborate on what you are planning on doing with it (I'm curious)? If you don't list yourself, only people you explicitly sent the link to will find the channel. If you already know who you're going to give a video presentation to why would you/they want to use this system? Did I really make it lightweight and easy enough to be able to compete with already existing solutions for this? Smiley
Well, which other solutions are there that are free to use and scale to at least 100 viewers easily? I'm thinking of Iran, so that's no credit card, no paypal and usually very low upstream. No hangouts and no Skype neither btw.
And ... usually people would freak out if there is porn less than 12 clicks away. You can safely assume this last point to be a problem in all Arab countries which is a huge market.

Links to alternative services are welcome in this particular case but generally my intention was to promote bitcoin as a wonderful thing for people in Iran.

Actually Iran announced to lock down outbound connections a long time ago and is blocking tons of stuff already so surely this would not grow big in Iran but it could be the spark to get bitcoin there.</dreaming>

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And if I used it wrong: an undocumented feature isn't a feature in my eyes anyway. There should be a link in the host's screen at least.

This API would be a great addition to the FAQ.

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giszmo, why not set up your own service? Perhaps watchtwoord would give or sell the source to you.

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giszmo, why not set up your own service? Perhaps watchtwoord would give or sell the source to you.

Well, my offer to put some work into it at a share basis was already quite much regarding how much money I guess there is in this one particular solution aka I don't believe this will grow big. Bet it would be far to vulnerable to sabotage via many vectors. Yet the idea is good and worth being promoted. I have already 4 projects going that are all not getting the attention they deserve so I could spare some hours adding what I need if I get access but not get fully into this business. Also I don't want to compete in a business that has no money in it on the short run.

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That has already been present for some time Smiley

(I love requests for functionality already present Tongue)

Now that you said it, I figured it out. It's funny though, name works, Name works, NAME doesn't, two parameter at the same time (?Channel=Lobby&Name=xy) don't work either.

I have what I need though, thanks!
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That's because I separate parameters with an underscore: Channel=Lobby_Name=xy

I could add it to the FAQ but didn't want to complicate it. Same goes for the UI. I will think about this.
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it seems there is fiestyfemme show today
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she looks hawt!!

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That's because I separate parameters with an underscore: Channel=Lobby_Name=xy

I could add it to the FAQ but didn't want to complicate it. Same goes for the UI. I will think about this.

How about changing it to how the rest of the world does it Wink

Who's interested in doing a copy-cat as FOSS? I would be in with some hours per week.

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That's because I separate parameters with an underscore: Channel=Lobby_Name=xy

I could add it to the FAQ but didn't want to complicate it. Same goes for the UI. I will think about this.

How about changing it to how the rest of the world does it Wink

Who's interested in doing a copy-cat as FOSS? I would be in with some hours per week.

Could you elaborate? I don't understand what you mean.
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I think he means the "rest of the world" uses an & to separate parameters.

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Oh, I did that because I could not get the & working without customization (I had to escape it I think), I could get this working faster and I thought I could use my time more valuable . I am not even sure whether the feature will stay in the current form. I agree it might be a bit confusing though.
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She's here and she's beutiful!
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We reached version 0.13! (I'm not skipping numbers Wink)

New features:

1) Show total amount donated to for a show
2) Show wether a broadcast is actually broadcating
3) Allow broadcasters to change their name and the name of the show without disconnecting

Enjoy Smiley
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completely broken at my side.

asks my name. i give it and say watch or host. i get a small empty window.

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Weird works fine for me. Have you tried connecting again?

If it is still not working could you run http://cc.rtmfp.net ? Thanks
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Weird works fine for me. Have you tried connecting again?

yes

If it is still not working could you run http://cc.rtmfp.net ? Thanks

01100111

actually for some reason your site did not work in chromium so i always used FF. Now when I try it in chromium, I get:

Code:
An ActionScript error has occurred:
TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference.
at view.renderers::BroadcastingRenderer/set data()[C:\Users\Kevin\Adobe Flash Builder 4.6\BitcoinsGoneWild\src\view\renderers\BroadcastingRenderer.mxml:12]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/initializeItemRenderer()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:1314]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/createTypicalItemRenderer()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:750]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/updateTypicalCellSizes()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:883]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/measure()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:444]
at spark.components.supportClasses::GroupBase/measure()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\supportClasses\GroupBase.as:1148]
at mx.core::UIComponent/http://www.adobe.com/2006/flex/mx/internal::measureSizes()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\core\UIComponent.as:8506]
at mx.core::UIComponent/validateSize()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\core\UIComponent.as:8430]
at spark.components::Group/validateSize()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\Group.as:1012]
at mx.managers::LayoutManager/validateSize()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\managers\LayoutManager.as:665]
at mx.managers::LayoutManager/doPhasedInstantiation()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\managers\LayoutManager.as:816]
at mx.managers::LayoutManager/doPhasedInstantiationCallback()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\managers\LayoutManager.as:1180]

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We reached version 0.13! (I'm not skipping numbers Wink)

New features:

1) Show total amount donated to for a show
2) Show wether a broadcast is actually broadcating
3) Allow broadcasters to change their name and the name of the show without disconnecting

Enjoy Smiley
Toatally broken now in IE9, and FF

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Very weird you guys are experiencing this as it looks like a CannotHappenException Tongue I have added an explicit test for a null value there. Thanks Giszmo for the explicit error report otherwise I would have been unable to debug this as I cannot reproduce this at all.

Be sure to try again with v0.13.1
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uhm ... now in chromium@linux64 I get a channel listing but still have the problem that i can't allow/deny the peer-assist thing - unless I open the flash settings before getting asked. So for me it works but ... it's not trivial.

In FF I get it running by clearing the cache (browsing to cam4btc?bla=fu).

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uhm ... now in chromium@linux64 I get a channel listing but still have the problem that i can't allow/deny the peer-assist thing - unless I open the flash settings before getting asked. So for me it works but ... it's not trivial.

In FF I get it running by clearing the cache (browsing to cam4btc?bla=fu).

Same here !
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That is an issue that exists for Abobe Flex player in combination with certain desktop systems on Linux (Apparently 2d Gnome works fine). There is nothing I can do about that sorry Sad

Thanks for telling me it differs per browser.
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Darling.LA is live now
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Missed it by -><- much.. You need an RSS feed of upcoming shows or something.

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Missed it by -><- much.. You need an RSS feed of upcoming shows or something.

no you didn't she was just scheduling a show she will we be back later Smiley you didn't miss anything

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This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM
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This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM

Oh yeah I guess to the limit of youtube's TOS with the right buzz words and a link to cam4btc this could generate some traffic Wink ... but for now the link is missing.

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... oh, and people complaining about the streaming quality in the chat is not really good advertisement neither Wink Better do a recording of people tipping 10 BTC Wink

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... oh, and people complaining about the streaming quality in the chat is not really good advertisement neither Wink Better do a recording of people tipping 10 BTC Wink

We weren't complaining we were telling darlingLA to lower her FPS and she did and the show was amazing quality. It actually showed a community helping each other, best advertisement ever Smiley

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This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM
Why does it say that BTCurious is broadcasting a southpark stream? I haven't been on there in weeks.
Is someone impersonating me?

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This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM
Why does it say that BTCurious is broadcasting a southpark stream? I haven't been on there in weeks.
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Sad and that is why you haven't been answering me on there LOL but seriously it has the same cam setup as you js i would contact wachtwoord

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I have never actually set up any stream… I don't know who that is or if it's maybe a glitch. I'm idling in the channel now (Mqrius) to see if he replies to my message (which he doesn't).

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... oh, and people complaining about the streaming quality in the chat is not really good advertisement neither Wink Better do a recording of people tipping 10 BTC Wink

This was just to get some people on there and show the stream was very good after she changed the settings. I haven't asked permission to use it for marketing purposes of the site (I used it for marketing purposes of her own show now, which I presumed is fine. If you look you'll see the video is hidden from people that don't have the direct link.

Also I want to emphasize the video was very good (I should look into recording it better).

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I have never actually set up any stream… I don't know who that is or if it's maybe a glitch. I'm idling in the channel now (Mqrius) to see if he replies to my message (which he doesn't).

I doubt there is a glitch as there is someone broadcasting. Broadcasts don't immerse from thin air Smiley

Why would someone impersonate you?  Huh This is weird
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I have never actually set up any stream… I don't know who that is or if it's maybe a glitch. I'm idling in the channel now (Mqrius) to see if he replies to my message (which he doesn't).

I doubt there is a glitch as there is someone broadcasting. Broadcasts don't immerse from thin air Smiley

Why would someone impersonate you?  Huh This is weird
Yeah, I meant a glitch in the username display. Perhaps this person isn't aware he's being shown as BTCurious…?

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Daling.LA is on again
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Daling.LA is on again

she left I think Sad but MissVi will be on in 34mins Smiley according to the schedule

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Quite some nice shows in the last couple of days. High quality video also, but not that many viewers. If you guys (that like the site) could spread the word to make this grow that would be great Smiley

I have added a cool animated gif banner to stripcoin (brought to you by Tuxavant) as well, so users can easily find help regarding the combination of camming and Bitcoins as well.

I'll be off for a on a business trip for more then a week starting Tomorrow so development will be stagnant in this period. However all of the highest value functionality is working very well so all should be fine. Just posting it to let you know I have not gone AWOL Tongue

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Well if no one know there is a nice girl doing a show, no one of course go and watch it... that's the problem
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I always encourage the entertainers to invite their personal followers from their other venues to cam4btc.com and encourage those followers to think about Bitcoin and try it out. That way, they are not just catering to the Bitcoin nerd community, but extending it to people that are far out of our reach.

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It seems ENTerTheDragonfly will do a show today

http://girls.stripcoin.com/comments/uja4b/i_will_be_on_cam4btc_in_24_hours_check_out/
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Show is in the schedule

Unluckily it's a bit too late for me.
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Just out of curiosity, how much can a girl expect to make during a cam show?

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Just out of curiosity, how much can a girl expect to make during a cam show?
Good question. There is a donations ticker that shows contributions in red as they come in in real time, but I don't know if there is a history of past sessions anywhere. Perhaps some of the girls on reddit could tell you, or you could grab the bitcoin address of a few performers and look at them after a while.

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Just out of curiosity, how much can a girl expect to make during a cam show?

last night the girl made 13+ btcs js

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I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that Tongue

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June 06, 2012, 12:33:20 PM
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June 07, 2012, 12:33:04 AM
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I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that Tongue

Is bitcoinscamming.com still available? I see a lot of activity and interest in that area Wink

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June 07, 2012, 01:49:03 AM
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I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that Tongue

Is bitcoinscamming.com still available? I see a lot of activity and interest in that area Wink
Yeah let's organize that, there seems to be a large market for it!

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June 07, 2012, 05:49:37 PM
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I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that Tongue

Is bitcoinscamming.com still available? I see a lot of activity and interest in that area Wink

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June 10, 2012, 05:44:58 PM
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The Dino-RAWR show on Friday was pretty good. She had like 50 viewers but sadly, only 3 brought Bitcoins. So for a while, it looked like there wasn't going to be a show. One guy opened another channel and sold BTC at a 30% markup in exchange for Amazon gift codes, then the show started. I forget what her total take was, but it wasn't much. I'm really hoping to see sites this cam4btc succeed. There's another girl on the schedule for later today so we'll see how it goes.
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June 10, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
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Hi, I got back from my trip today.

Regarding your comment: I contacted QuickBitcoins and apparently not a single visitor coming from cam4btc.com has actually bought Bitcoins there. I really think lack of Bitcoins among the public is something that is slwoing the growth of the site. People don't mind giving a really small amount for the show, they just find it too much hassle to acquire the Bitcoins. I'm up for any suggestions to make the process easier but I think it would be best if I could avoid to sell them myself as that would cause two conflicting concerns to appear on the site.

BTW I also noted the number of clicks on the Bitcoinadvertizers link has gone way way down (0.05% ctr from >4%) since I changed it into a rotating add. Does anyone have an insight on this? Should I put BitcoinAdvertizers first in the rotation (as that is the only one making the site any revenue). Two times during my absence the site had massive amounts of hits (2k and 1.3 k respectively) which are records and I am really pleased about that. I got a report that on the 5th of June ENTerTheButterfly has made 13BTC+ on donations so sometimes it does work but of course this all needs to improve:

A summary of the hits and add clicks during my 10 day absence:



So everyone: What do you guys reckon is the next step forward?

Offer litecoins? :-)

No seriously, you probably have to sell BTC yourself to get non-BTC people to get involved. Remember for many people getting ahold of bitcoins at a reasonable rate is still quite a chore. BitInstant makes things easier, but the fees really hurt and I don't see many people trying to get over to Wallmart to pick up some BTC just to make it back to watch a girl undress online. :-(

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June 10, 2012, 07:47:57 PM
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If you offer alternate payments, this could work but then you would get more involved with things than you maybe want to. "hey, you just sold CP" if you know what I mean.

You should link to ways to buy bitcoin though.

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June 10, 2012, 07:50:24 PM
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If you offer alternate payments, this could work but then you would get more involved with things than you maybe want to. "hey, you just sold CP" if you know what I mean.

You should link to ways to buy bitcoin though.

He does link to a place that you can buy bitcoins, in the lower right hand corner js

and I agree with the top of this statement you need to have more hands on filtering of content then, just to protect the buyers and site.

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June 10, 2012, 11:17:36 PM
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Hi, I got back from my trip today.

Regarding your comment: I contacted QuickBitcoins and apparently not a single visitor coming from cam4btc.com has actually bought Bitcoins there. I really think lack of Bitcoins among the public is something that is slwoing the growth of the site. People don't mind giving a really small amount for the show, they just find it too much hassle to acquire the Bitcoins. I'm up for any suggestions to make the process easier but I think it would be best if I could avoid to sell them myself as that would cause two conflicting concerns to appear on the site.

Well, partly, I think Dino-Rawr's problem was that she did a lot of promotion for her show on non-bitcoin specific channels, like in the generic "Reddit Gone Wild" subreddit. I did not see her ever post on these forums and not at the stripcoin.com site, either. But maybe I missed her announcement there.

Bitinstant has made it more convenient than ever for bitcoin dabblers to acquire coins, but their web page sucks and they don't have any tutorial for how to use their "get bitcoins at Walmart" type services. So I think the uncertainty scares people away. Hell, I am obsessed with Bitcoins and when I went on their site I couldn't figure out exactly how it's supposed to work.

I'm actually planning to do a youtube video series for such people to walk them through the process of buying via Bitinstant.

Another thing that would help would be if some sexy girls did shows, did not get paid after 15 minutes and then logged off leaving a bunch of frustrated, horny guys wishing they had brought some BTC with them. All the shows I have seen so far have 2 or 3 "heroes" throwing money around out of a couple dozen+ viewers. If the "heroes" don't show up and the girls log off, maybe some more people will start taking responsibility for themselves.

Finally, Quickbitcoins is down right now, so I can't check but I think someone mentioned in chat the other night that even Quickbitcoins takes several hours to process the transactions and send coins. Does anyone know if this is true?

In any case, I'm looking forward to the show tonight and hope it's a good night for the performer.
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June 11, 2012, 03:30:37 AM
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relevant: http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/uvl90/wanted_video_tutorial_pays_minimum_155_btc/

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June 11, 2012, 11:05:32 AM
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In person bitcoin exchanging would be awesome if you could do it with naked girls

Anybody want to invest in a brothel in Australia ?  Cheesy

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June 11, 2012, 12:12:17 PM
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I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!

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June 11, 2012, 08:04:33 PM
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I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!

I would love to see that that convo...

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Madam: can we help you?
Tux: Yes have you heard of bitcoins the p2p digital crypto-currency
Madam: No and we are not interested.
Tux: Ok how much for the blonde whore?

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June 11, 2012, 08:14:43 PM
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I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!

lol just visiting hmm? ;P

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June 11, 2012, 08:21:33 PM
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I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!

I would love to see that that convo...

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Tux: Yes have you heard of bitcoins the p2p digital crypto-currency
Madam: No and we are not interested.
Tux: Ok how much for the blonde whore?

Madam: 10 BTC
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June 11, 2012, 08:57:38 PM
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Live show by a couple (MF) at www.cam4btc.com right now!

http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/uwl9a/couple_mf_going_to_be_on_cam4btccom_in_2mins/
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June 11, 2012, 09:05:53 PM
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Wow very nice
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June 12, 2012, 01:23:40 AM
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It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening Smiley

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It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening Smiley

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.

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June 12, 2012, 02:16:43 AM
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It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening Smiley

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.

RSS feed maybe?

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It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening Smiley

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.

RSS feed maybe?
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