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July 23, 2020, 02:10:52 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2020, 12:15:06 AM by frodocooper
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Bad luck this post was made may 27th.

I would like to point out that lifetimes stats for luck on kano.is

are 101.17%   for 2429 blocks

but that for the last 1000 blocks

the luck is 96.02%

and for the last 500 blocks

the luck is 92.41 %

This last 500 blocks took 153.8 weeks

153.8 weeks is very close to 3 years ago.

May 27 2017 is  3 years ago.

June 15 or June June 16 2017 is 153.8 weeks ago

My point is once BTC became valuable or more valuable

Kano.is has had really bad luck.

Coinbase price on:

June 11 2017   about  3000
July  13  2017  about  2300
Aug  14  2017  about  4300
Sept 15  2017  about  3700
Oct   17 2017   about  5500

May 27   2020   about  9200

I could go on and since I am a stupid moron I will go on.

500/.92 = 543.47

so kano.is is off 43.47 blocks since his last 500 blocks made.

So As a stupid moron I ask why has kano.is had brutal luck over the last 500 blocks made by the pool.

Why did kano.is have great luck  when they made the first 1929 blocks

the luck was so good when blocks were worth very little
the luck is brutal when blocks became valuable.

Does it mean anything?  I don't know I am a stupid moron.

but 105% for 1929 blocks.   coins under 3000

and 92%  for 500 blocks.     coins over 3000

So  even if solo.ckpool sucks and lost 3 to 4 blocks out of 255 blocks

kano.is has had a 500 block 153.8 week unlucky streak.

But as i said I am a stupid moron.  Please correct my math if I made any errors.

Personally if possible I would mine in a:

kano.is solo pool
solo.ckpool

pps+ pool

this is the problem with kano.is an extended downturn since may of 2017

PPS is more and more what people want.

If it's good for the miner / pool operator has to be determined on an individual basis.

Personally, I have about $7.50 in dust left on Kano's pool since 2016. Due to PPLNS and the lack of luck, it's just a write off to me at the moment, never going to get paid and unless I put some crap miner on there when they happen to get lucky and find a block I'm never going to get paid. In terms of crypto mining losses it's a small one.

For smaller pools like Kano and Laurentia, PPS is looking to be the only way to gain more users. A small user might mine there knowing they will get paid what they mine (minus the fee) if they grow into a larger miner they might stay. But, very few larger miners are going to move to or start with a small PPLNS pool.

Same with Laurentia I am not going to mine here, I just changed out some equipment and barely have 1PH.

It's all older, outdated, inefficient gear. But since I have fixed power costs it works for me. Since I have fixed expenses PPS works best for me.

Having had many discussions with other people what I am doing seems to be a recurring theme.

-Dave

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New stats are:

Quote from: https://kano.is/
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Block Statistics

Description Time Mean Diff% MeanTx% CDF[Erl] Luck% ?PAPPS%
Last 5 Blocks 42.8wks 123.04% 107.88% 0.7348 81.27% 86.89%
Last 10 Blocks 55.2wks 104.72% 105.19% 0.5995 95.49% 99.55%
Last 25 Blocks 71.3wks 107.63% 105.07% 0.6694 92.91% 96.75%
Last 50 Blocks 87.9wks 117.94% 103.35% 0.8937 84.79% 86.84%
Last 100 Blocks 99.4wks 106.68% 102.23% 0.7538 93.74% 94.97%
Last 250 Blocks 138.9wks 104.25% 104.22% 0.7528 95.93% 99.07%
Last 500 Blocks 162.2wks 107.73% 108.82% 0.9556 92.82% 100.10%
Last 1000 Blocks 200.3wks 104.11% 109.14% 0.9020 96.05% 103.89%
All - Last 2431 Blocks 304.3wks 98.80% 104.67% 0.2784 101.22% 104.99%
Monthly Statistics

UTC Month Pool Avg Blocks Expected Mean Diff% MeanTx% CDF[Erl] Luck% PAPPS%
2020 July… 10.50PHs 1 0.29 28.68% 103.22% 0.2493 348.66% 356.64%
2020 June 11.04PHs 1 0.51 51.25% 101.60% 0.4010 195.14% 196.49%
2020 May 13.85PHs 1 2.86 286.12% 133.03% 0.9428 34.95% 46.08%
2019 December 18.86PHs 1 1.63 163.50% 100.46% 0.8050 61.16% 60.89%
2019 October 19.14PHs 1 0.86 85.67% 101.07% 0.5754 116.73% 116.92%
2019 September 20.91PHs 2 1.45 72.34% 101.71% 0.4242 138.23% 139.33%
2019 August 33.05PHs 2 1.50 75.17% 104.04% 0.4433 133.04% 137.17%
2019 July 27.12PHs 1 1.37 136.96% 101.02% 0.7458 73.01% 73.10%
2019 June 51.03PHs 5 5.24 104.71% 105.93% 0.5998 95.50% 100.26%
2019 May 49.18PHs 4 6.99 174.83% 106.42% 0.9179 57.20% 60.32%
2019 April 40.40PHs 3 2.56 85.33% 104.77% 0.4714 117.20% 121.69%
2019 March 63.41PHs 6 4.03 67.21% 103.00% 0.2200 148.78% 151.87%
2019 February 62.33PHs 7 5.78 82.54% 101.71% 0.3581 121.15% 122.12%
2019 January 87.37PHs 7 10.00 142.80% 101.03% 0.8696 70.03% 70.11%
2018 December 54.43PHs 4 6.33 158.27% 101.53% 0.8760 63.18% 63.57%
2018 November 204.05PHs 10 18.52 185.22% 100.78% 0.9884 53.99% 53.92%
Last 108 Blocks

 Green  is good luck. Lower Diff% and brighter green is better luck.
 100%  is expected average.  Red  is bad luck. Higher Diff% and brighter red is worse luck.

# Height Block Reward When UTC Status Diff Diff% CDF 100 Luck% B
2431 639849 6.45115733 2020‑07‑19 08:58:10 Matured 4,975,076,485,009 28.681% 0.249 93.74% 1
2430 636326 6.35028426 2020‑06‑25 19:40:43 Matured 8,088,995,014,840 51.246% 0.401 93.63% 2
2429 631035 8.31423879 2020‑05‑20 09:23:30 Matured 43,312,713,449,837 286.118% 0.943 93.17% 3
2428 608428 12.55764727 2019‑12‑16 22:55:22 Matured 21,053,402,290,225 163.498% 0.805 94.76% 4
2427 600516 12.63383792 2019‑10‑22 10:52:01 Matured 11,143,500,602,538 85.666% 0.575 95.24% 5
2426 596216 12.65473219 2019‑09‑23 12:22:04 Matured 1,280,792,529,690 10.771% 0.102 93.43% 6
2425 595737 12.77212491 2019‑09‑20 08:34:53 Matured 15,922,674,256,919 133.910% 0.738 92.20% 7
2424 589943 13.08106024 2019‑08‑13 14:48:41 Matured 3,220,351,141,917 32.251% 0.276 92.56% 8
2423 588822 12.92924708 2019‑08‑06 02:48:09 Matured 11,790,971,577,014 118.083% 0.693 92.59% 9
2422 586446 12.62751011 2019‑07‑22 00:52:26 Matured 12,414,271,790,886 136.960% 0.746 93.19% 10
2421 582963 12.82357636 2019‑06‑29 06:47:04 Matured 10,859,723,438,459 136.863% 0.746 92.66% 11
2420 580980 13.18488396 2019‑06‑16 11:23:44 Matured 14,336,805,410,470 193.495% 0.856 91.17% 12
2419 579926 12.98348213 2019‑06‑09 08:54:48 Matured 1,545,112,853,793 20.713% 0.187 92.01% 13
2418 579870 12.97752418 2019‑06‑08 23:50:16 Matured 4,758,782,119,780 63.793% 0.472 91.85% 14
2417 579055 14.23903829 2019‑06‑03 10:59:44 Matured 8,106,687,215,021 108.673% 0.663 91.92% 15
2416 577111 13.32903600 2019‑05‑21 16:48:26 Matured 3,637,300,763,107 54.251% 0.419 89.68% 16
2415 576158 13.93001891 2019‑05‑15 14:13:34 Matured 3,566,680,120,025 53.217% 0.413 89.26% 17
2414 575603 13.22851083 2019‑05‑12 00:38:49 Matured 14,010,941,965,699 209.051% 0.876 88.60% 18
2413 574154 12.72196457 2019‑05‑01 21:15:51 Matured 24,318,332,227,626 382.783% 0.978 89.31% 19
2412 570349 13.14083929 2019‑04‑05 16:11:55 Matured 4,310,259,801,023 67.567% 0.491 91.44% 20
2411 570025 13.24030664 2019‑04‑03 12:51:09 Matured 1,425,667,561,142 22.348% 0.200 91.38% 21
2410 569688 12.90931320 2019‑04‑01 04:34:57 Matured 10,593,577,060,536 166.063% 0.810 90.38% 22
2409 567347 12.61965193 2019‑03‑16 14:00:30 Matured 4,697,357,932,967 77.401% 0.539 91.74% 23
2408 566431 12.57305451 2019‑03‑10 06:36:39 Matured 2,250,171,769,527 37.059% 0.310 92.38% 24
2407 566208 12.95240733 2019‑03‑08 17:05:20 Matured 3,048,123,212,468 50.201% 0.395 91.79% 25
2406 566131 12.59749921 2019‑03‑08 03:08:48 Matured 2,408,164,312,283 39.661% 0.327 91.93% 26
2405 566049 13.48852845 2019‑03‑07 14:04:10 Matured 1,119,926,452,282 18.445% 0.168 90.89% 27
2404 566019 13.01870438 2019‑03‑07 08:00:45 Matured 10,960,035,292,886 180.506% 0.836 90.69% 28
2403 564574 12.70547080 2019‑02‑25 09:19:27 Matured 467,553,145,295 7.700% 0.074 92.02% 29
2402 564494 12.92343785 2019‑02‑24 20:42:08 Matured 1,391,128,692,963 22.911% 0.205 91.77% 30
2401 564292 12.53818176 2019‑02‑23 08:50:40 Matured 459,846,636,160 7.586% 0.073 91.05% 31
2400 564209 12.64644886 2019‑02‑22 20:30:53 Matured 20,576,150,682,525 339.455% 0.966 89.95% 32
2399 561503 12.53211062 2019‑02‑04 12:50:35 Matured 6,505,053,158,822 111.873% 0.673 91.90% 33
2398 561226 12.80100082 2019‑02‑02 15:10:03 Matured 857,838,324,313 14.753% 0.137 92.24% 34
2397 561076 12.85110441 2019‑02‑01 14:58:22 Matured 4,274,005,824,360 73.504% 0.521 91.74% 35
2396 560520 12.66611083 2019‑01‑28 20:19:43 Matured 17,906,477,712,575 307.954% 0.954 92.35% 36
2395 558851 12.50818133 2019‑01‑17 02:56:16 Matured 7,968,316,323,053 135.424% 0.742 94.41% 37
2394 557920 12.61716135 2019‑01‑10 12:28:48 Matured 5,084,072,537,256 90.487% 0.595 95.62% 38
2393 557654 12.67537141 2019‑01‑08 20:54:31 Matured 8,584,103,884,920 152.780% 0.783 93.57% 39
2392 557362 12.64306749 2019‑01‑06 22:59:19 Matured 976,510,205,235 17.380% 0.160 93.35% 40
2391 557342 12.76656594 2019‑01‑06 19:59:31 Matured 3,417,823,080,484 60.831% 0.456 91.79% 41
2390 557278 12.52320285 2019‑01‑06 07:51:54 Matured 13,190,488,712,937 234.765% 0.904 90.94% 42
2389 555707 12.53708332 2018‑12‑27 08:14:52 Matured 6,822,584,528,866 133.608% 0.737 92.18% 43
2388 554373 12.91696259 2018‑12‑18 17:08:17 Matured 4,078,642,137,634 72.234% 0.514 93.20% 44
2387 553623 12.58106081 2018‑12‑13 09:13:36 Matured 4,533,132,475,994 80.284% 0.552 93.42% 45
2386 552929 12.73090762 2018‑12‑07 19:18:49 Matured 19,591,380,389,423 346.971% 0.969 93.87% 46
2385 551437 12.52326952 2018‑11‑25 08:29:15 Matured 10,873,034,498,032 163.423% 0.805 95.45% 47
2384 551086 12.64626602 2018‑11‑22 14:22:03 Matured 22,547,747,916,205 338.896% 0.966 96.74% 48
2383 550340 12.53464115 2018‑11‑16 19:40:13 Matured 10,546,277,559,924 146.794% 0.770 98.99% 49
2382 550003 12.62917896 2018‑11‑14 03:22:05 Matured 7,783,425,955,610 108.338% 0.662 97.98% 50
2381 549744 12.66345217 2018‑11‑12 04:15:00 Matured 4,691,755,367,392 65.305% 0.480 99.01% 51
2380 549581 12.52069586 2018‑11‑11 00:30:53 Matured 4,087,488,482,183 56.894% 0.434 97.53% 52
2379 549448 12.57279922 2018‑11‑10 00:23:56 Matured 8,656,972,172,718 120.497% 0.700 97.75% 53
2378 549185 12.71489286 2018‑11‑07 21:38:23 Matured 19,920,016,155,183 277.267% 0.938 98.38% 54
2377 548530 12.64896250 2018‑11‑03 03:11:17 Matured 8,087,999,129,161 112.577% 0.676 98.66% 55
2376 548249 12.51624212 2018‑11‑01 04:52:57 Matured 33,202,707,167,765 462.250% 0.990 97.96% 56
2375 547142 12.90107195 2018‑10‑24 14:03:41 Matured 4,975,210,572,009 69.265% 0.500 101.10% 57
2374 547016 12.52871199 2018‑10‑23 12:23:10 Matured 8,311,733,337,220 115.716% 0.686 101.15% 58
2373 546707 12.80460184 2018‑10‑21 12:26:26 Matured 107,684,813,189 1.499% 0.015 102.21% 59
2372 546699 12.54472719 2018‑10‑21 11:48:57 Matured 14,746,611,884,125 205.303% 0.872 101.25% 60
2371 546212 12.59790192 2018‑10‑18 00:09:59 Matured 4,120,184,764,819 55.268% 0.425 101.91% 61
2370 546079 12.60476126 2018‑10‑17 00:49:23 Matured 385,786,170,551 5.175% 0.050 102.21% 62
2369 546068 12.71817248 2018‑10‑16 22:36:37 Matured 9,975,072,519,996 133.804% 0.738 102.00% 63
2368 545722 12.62513978 2018‑10‑14 12:51:28 Matured 30,281,980,588,194 406.199% 0.983 101.56% 64
2367 544738 12.53371400 2018‑10‑07 08:55:14 Matured 755,916,349,427 10.140% 0.096 105.66% 65
2366 544710 12.51468501 2018‑10‑07 04:35:07 Matured 1,297,022,686,772 17.398% 0.160 103.90% 66
2365 544660 12.79781997 2018‑10‑06 21:09:36 Matured 24,389,159,111,301 327.153% 0.962 101.59% 67
2364 543875 12.56902241 2018‑10‑01 06:50:43 Matured 4,979,104,964,109 69.612% 0.501 104.71% 68
2363 543688 12.50545171 2018‑09‑30 03:01:13 Matured 7,896,050,811,188 110.394% 0.668 105.24% 69
2362 543474 12.74701703 2018‑09‑28 16:57:31 Matured 5,576,641,937,621 77.966% 0.541 106.12% 70
2361 543272 12.57152013 2018‑09‑27 08:22:48 Matured 3,054,578,139,266 42.706% 0.348 106.10% 71
2360 543172 12.67173037 2018‑09‑26 14:18:05 Matured 13,065,985,595,151 182.674% 0.839 106.39% 72
2359 542713 12.52945895 2018‑09‑23 16:23:59 Matured 4,815,280,317,744 67.322% 0.490 108.26% 73
2358 542525 12.52969330 2018‑09‑22 11:03:17 Matured 2,492,869,108,936 34.852% 0.294 108.25% 74
2357 542434 12.81290422 2018‑09‑21 20:03:11 Matured 963,822,934,683 13.475% 0.126 107.02% 75
2356 542394 12.90295590 2018‑09‑21 14:16:54 Matured 5,946,724,557,044 83.140% 0.565 106.43% 76
2355 542174 12.60259772 2018‑09‑20 01:55:10 Matured 1,416,430,328,652 20.179% 0.183 106.82% 77
2354 542128 12.58630884 2018‑09‑19 17:24:56 Matured 307,759,184,208 4.385% 0.043 105.77% 78
2353 542118 12.60670325 2018‑09‑19 15:34:21 Matured 2,053,243,837,255 29.252% 0.254 104.26% 79
2352 542032 12.57968815 2018‑09‑19 03:16:19 Matured 3,477,466,964,043 49.542% 0.391 104.03% 80
2351 541900 12.60427292 2018‑09‑18 06:14:04 Matured 415,460,577,635 5.919% 0.057 100.46% 81
2350 541888 12.65449764 2018‑09‑18 03:29:56 Matured 4,980,761,200,500 70.959% 0.508 97.55% 82
2349 541717 12.59598065 2018‑09‑16 21:02:55 Matured 4,118,356,747,353 58.673% 0.444 98.03% 83
2348 541566 12.54560000 2018‑09‑15 20:08:47 Matured 5,257,230,200,102 74.898% 0.527 98.44% 84
2347 541392 12.59517092 2018‑09‑14 12:35:54 Matured 22,981,222,374,954 327.405% 0.962 98.90% 85
2346 540527 12.77780394 2018‑09‑08 17:59:13 Matured 2,328,289,974,370 33.170% 0.282 101.03% 86
2345 540442 12.60188279 2018‑09‑08 03:52:41 Matured 1,479,894,977,828 21.084% 0.190 99.99% 87
2344 540381 12.73071737 2018‑09‑07 18:55:02 Matured 2,403,870,153,915 34.247% 0.290 99.68% 88
2343 540295 12.64451006 2018‑09‑07 04:32:25 Matured 666,013,038,273 9.488% 0.091 97.34% 89
2342 540265 12.72660912 2018‑09‑07 00:29:08 Matured 13,513,963,851,766 200.885% 0.866 96.27% 90
2341 539844 12.50703282 2018‑09‑03 21:44:27 Matured 4,659,038,045,313 69.256% 0.500 97.34% 91
2340 539692 12.70993471 2018‑09‑02 21:29:46 Matured 665,914,716,627 9.899% 0.094 97.86% 92
2339 539668 12.79188930 2018‑09‑02 17:51:43 Matured 15,503,630,849,481 230.461% 0.900 97.94% 93
2338 539144 12.52369649 2018‑08‑30 04:39:30 Matured 8,605,290,122,862 127.917% 0.722 98.71% 94
2337 538852 12.64674115 2018‑08‑28 04:50:27 Matured 2,141,122,518,940 31.828% 0.273 97.30% 95
2336 538751 13.07789778 2018‑08‑27 16:57:29 Matured 2,157,260,576,630 32.068% 0.274 97.08% 96
2335 538670 12.54427413 2018‑08‑27 04:17:41 Matured 4,438,950,900,321 65.985% 0.483 97.26% 97
2334 538464 12.50551418 2018‑08‑26 00:54:47 Matured 6,087,115,992,818 90.485% 0.595 96.28% 98
2333 538243 12.57869328 2018‑08‑24 12:10:16 Matured 901,853,191,079 14.115% 0.132 96.09% 99
2332 538214 12.53772799 2018‑08‑24 06:25:46 Matured 2,193,752,226,505 34.335% 0.291 94.42% 100
2331 538130 12.71959402 2018‑08‑23 16:47:52 Matured 2,619,241,216,464 40.994% 0.336 93.81% 101
2330 538034 12.54736087 2018‑08‑23 00:41:34 Matured 6,688,494,340,292 104.682% 0.649 93.16% 102
2329 537766 12.60629599 2018‑08‑21 07:01:19 Matured 6,793,741,097,437 106.330% 0.655 93.49% 103
2328 537498 12.58275178 2018‑08‑19 12:56:20 Matured 6,998,225,810,214 109.530% 0.666 93.86% 104
2327 537222 12.67180123 2018‑08‑17 17:39:45 Matured 18,477,113,109,446 289.188% 0.945 94.41% 105
2326 536506 12.54011987 2018‑08‑12 23:44:49 Matured 9,812,158,754,763 153.571% 0.785 96.45% 106
2325 536094 12.86570202 2018‑08‑10 13:17:46 Matured 5,461,216,391,633 91.794% 0.601 97.78% 107
2324 535885 12.70509506 2018‑08‑09 05:05:13 Matured 1,721,655,440,439 28.938% 0.251 98.28% 108

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July 23, 2020, 02:13:11 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2020, 12:17:08 AM by frodocooper
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I will unlock later.

I unlocked to quote this

Surely if you mined on a small PPLNS pool then you would care if a block was missed due to it having a massive impact on your earnings along with everyone else on the pool.

The bigger the pool the less likelyhood of it having an impact on you, especially if the pool is PPS.

But the danger is, it is all relative, if a big pool is losing blocks due to bad code or infrastructure, or you build a big pool based on bad code or infrastructure then it does become a big deal. Because a big pool will lose lots of blocks, or at least potentially a string of them before its noticed and something is done about it.

Fact is some big pools have lost lots of blocks due to either bad code or due to not being aware of what is going on down to the minutiae of information or not having the log files to check back, or just not caring. The history is there to see.

I can understand it not being a big concern on your part because of your mining strategy, although I would question why anyone would continue to mine on a solo pool that has demonstrably lost blocks on more than one occassion. The potential loss of earnings is just too high.

I simply say maybe just maybe kano has poor code.

It may have been good at one time.
As kano pool luck was good like for the first 1400+ blocks

Not good for the last 1000 + blocks.

Maybe. the entire reason for the extended down turn in his pool is a simple code error.

look at the numbers for blocks 1-1400. good

look at the numbers for block. 1400- 2430 not good.

Quote from: https://kano.is
Block Statistics

Description   Time   Mean Diff%   MeanTx%   CDF[Erl]   Luck%   ?PAPPS%
Last 5 Blocks   42.8wks   123.04%   107.88%   0.7348   81.27%   86.89%
Last 10 Blocks   55.2wks   104.72%   105.19%   0.5995   95.49%   99.55%
Last 25 Blocks   71.3wks   107.63%   105.07%   0.6694   92.91%   96.75%
Last 50 Blocks   87.9wks   117.94%   103.35%   0.8937   84.79%   86.84%
Last 100 Blocks   99.4wks   106.68%   102.23%   0.7538   93.74%   94.97%
Last 250 Blocks   138.9wks   104.25%   104.22%   0.7528   95.93%   99.07%
Last 500 Blocks   162.2wks   107.73%   108.82%   0.9556   92.82%   100.10%
Last 1000 Blocks   200.3wks   104.11%   109.14%   0.9020   96.05%   103.89%
All - Last 2431 Blocks   304.3wks   98.80%   104.67%   0.2784   101.22%   104.99%

the last 1000 blocks  luck is 96.05%
the grand total 2431 blocks luck is 101.22%

bear with me I am math challenged. kano has stated I am a stupid moron a criminal and a gambler/ I paraphrased.

but in order to have a 101.22% luck number for 2431 block  if 1000 blocks are at 96.05%.

we need to 2431-1000 = 1431

and lets see 1431 x ?  and 1000 x 96.05.   = 2431 x 101.22

so 246065.82 - 96050 = 150015.82

then

15015.82/ 1431 =

104.83 % luck first 1431 blocks

96.05% luck last 1000 blocks

that is a massive huge change over years of time.  So we can argue all day. but

1431 blocks. 104.83%
1000 blocks.  96.05%

I am sorry but those numbers are real and right from kano.is website.

No reason has be found if it has been found it would be working.

I know kano has ended rentals. result luck still sucks last 50 blocks are terrible
I know kano has banned after market firmware result luck still sucks last 50 blocks are terrible.

It does not matter that 50 blocks are a small amount of blocks.

What does matter is the luck is terrible and the 50 blocks are over a time period of 21 months.

My 1.7ph would have paid 5000 usd lower at kano pool if I stay there.  from nov 2018.

thread is not locked so comment.

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July 23, 2020, 03:12:11 PM
Last edit: July 23, 2020, 03:50:45 PM by kano
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I simply say maybe just maybe kano has poor code.
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Fun how you like to accuse people of things without any basis, but hide behind words to pretend you didn't Smiley

Then you are saying -ck is a poor coder - since he wrote the block detection code used on the front end on my pool.
The same code used in CKSolo, CKPool, and Laurentia Pool.
The only current difference is handling bitcoin v18 and v19 where core put a bug in it.

I do agree that he is a poor coder, having lost 3 blocks due to bad code and another due to negligence/not knowing how to run a server.

Fortunately for my pool, I test the code properly before using it and thus reduce the risk dramatically of losing blocks due to bad code.
He has a history of committing code to the public git that he has not ever test run at all.
Alas that happened on CKPool when he started it also where his coinbase code hadn't been tested, then when the pool found it's first block, that untested code screwed up and they lost the block.

I also have secondary bit accuracy block detection code in KDB on my pool if the ckpool code screws up.
It does an exact check unlike the ckpool code that does an approximate test.
KDB also submits every block.

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Edit:

I should also add, to refute your baseless accusations, information that you also already know but are pretending to forget:

When we had the very bad luck run of 5 blocks and the pool was mining 50% rental, I went to a lot of trouble to re-check everything.
I contacted the top miners and got them to go through their miner logs and miner management logs so we could check that all blocks in their logs were also on the pool.
I added all the extra share checking and correct block checking in KDB (unlike the approximate block checking in ckpool)
I then reran 3 months of data around the time of the bad luck, through KDB, and checked everything went through with the same results and the same blocks.
The result was the same blocks - no differences between the two.

FYI: this isn't possible on ckpool without KDB, since ckpool doesn't have any ability at all to rerun data.
If you get data corruptions in his text files (yeah the database storing hundreds of thousands of $ or rewards of data is a bunch of tiny text files, one per user), you can't recover them except from an out of date backup ... since those text files update, on average, every 3.333 seconds.

KDB, of course hasn't had such a poorly designed issue since the beginning.

I will also add that slush had a run of 5 blocks of bad luck worse than this, about a year later and they ignored it.
Fun how different the response to such issues is on different pools Smiley

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And yet again you are pretending to not see the number in front of your face.

Last 1000 Blocks   200.3wks   104.11%   109.14%   0.9020   96.05%   103.89%

Firstly, the Average PPS% reward there is 103.89% - sounds good to me Smiley

Secondly there is a statistic there in front of you that you keep ignoring over and over?
Do you simply not understand what the CDF[Erl] is, even after I've pointed it out over and over again with each of these posts you make saying you don't understand statistics?

It says "0.9020" so approximately 1 in 10 chance of that happening.

In this case since it's 1000 blocks, then EVERY pool EXPECTS that to happen, on average, once every 10,000 blocks.
It doesn't mean it can't happen twice or 3 times in 10,000 blocks, and it doesn't mean it wont happen early or late in the 10,000 blocks, it's simply just a statistic showing the EXPECTED results over a large sample of data.

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July 23, 2020, 05:03:23 PM
Last edit: July 24, 2020, 12:20:25 AM by frodocooper
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and you continue to explain away your luck drop from

104.83 % first 1431 blocks.

to

96.05 % last 1000 blocks.

show the cdf for the 104.83% luck for 1431 blocks

show the cdf for the 96.05% over 1000 blocks

show the cdf for that happening back to back

the odds then become less likely then luck.

The odds become more likely your code has lost is edge that created the 1431 Long hot streak.

besides. since you pool has properly sunken in size to the shrinkage in luck you now attack other pools.

And practice deep insults. so have fun pumping a dying pool.

To any miners reading I feel for you I once was loyal to kano not any more.



I was politely asked to close thread.

It is now locked.

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