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[wolfen]

100% block yes!

[zOU]

Hey Gang,

It is almost decision time for me. Last 4 blocks have had payouts less than 0.001xxxxx for my little farm. Tough choice for me to make, but if I get any smaller, I am considering pointing my hash at the solo pool and hoping for the best. I will hang-out for a few more blocks to see what happens, but it will soon become time for me to try Lady Luck.

Sad days ahead for me.

CapnBDL
     

that's still 10x the limit before dust payments (0.0001BTC), so until the pool gets 10x larger, you'll still get paid.

[nhando]

Hey Gang,

It is almost decision time for me. Last 4 blocks have had payouts less than 0.001xxxxx for my little farm. Tough choice for me to make, but if I get any smaller, I am considering pointing my hash at the solo pool and hoping for the best. I will hang-out for a few more blocks to see what happens, but it will soon become time for me to try Lady Luck.

Sad days ahead for me.

CapnBDL
    

CapnBDL - Go ahead and point your Hash at Solo for Lady Luck.  PM me your Wallet address, let me throw 50TH for you on Kano so you can be the Big Captain for the next 8 hours.  Enjoy.

[algin8189]

Actually i got a silly question... what does the shift means, and how do people get listed over there? 

[philipma1957]

100% block yes!

what do you mine by that?

[nhando]

Actually i got a silly question... what does the shift means, and how do people get listed over there?  

Kano / CK uses some Anime character's name for each shift I believe.  It's not really anyone's usernames.

Example below -  Elen didn't hit a block.  I'm dissapointed at her.

Shift   Start UTC   Length   Your Diff   Inv Diff   Avg Hs   Shares   Avg Share   Rewards   Rewarded*   PPS%
64yrg kosaki    Mar-06 16:01:59   27m 43s   13.024M   27.665k   33.63THs   3.621k   3,596.75   1   0.00316   19.99%
64yo7 juvia   Mar-06 15:13:22   48m 38s   21.794M   3.887k   32.08THs   6.248k   3,488.16   1   0.00316   19.99%
64ygh ichiko   Mar-06 14:26:40   46m 42s   683.347M   2.136M   1,047.48THs   5.567k   122,749.56   1   0.00316   19.99%
64yb2 hitagi   Mar-06 13:39:12   47m 27s   1.097G   267.838k   1,655.11THs   8.974k   122,266.34   1   0.00316   19.99%
64y5g gin   Mar-06 12:51:42   47m 30s   1.988G   1.970M   2,995.70THs   16.163k   122,989.42   1   0.00316   19.99%
64xxw felli   Mar-06 12:04:39   47m 3s   1.934G   2.154M   2,941.87THs   14.428k   134,035.09   1   0.00316   19.99%
64xsf elen   Mar-06 11:17:00   47m 39s   2.121G   2.601M   3,185.90THs   15.204k   139,489.28   1   0.00316   19.99%
64xms darkchii   Mar-06 10:26:46   50m 13s   2.286G   7.406k   3,258.22THs   16.397k   139,420.19   1   0.00316   19.99%
64xew charlotte   Mar-06 09:39:03   47m 43s   2.194G   1.724M   3,290.86THs   15.703k   139,713.87   1   0.00316   19.99%
64x9c belldandy    Mar-06 09:17:37   21m 26s   897.762M   3.216M   2,999.08THs   7.241k   123,983.18   2   0.00627   39.74%
64x6t akatsuki   Mar-06 08:34:12   43m 26s   978.050M   1.982M   1,612.01THs   9.814k   99,658.69   2   0.00627   39.74%

[zOU]

CapnBDL - Go ahead and point your Hash at Solo for Lady Luck.  PM me your Wallet address, let me throw 50TH for you on Kano so you can be the Big Captain for the next 8 hours.  Enjoy.

I should have followed up on your offer yesterday :p
Maybe I would have had 40Th for my 40th bday :p

[clgrissom3]

Actually i got a silly question... what does the shift means, and how do people get listed over there?  

As nhando said, those names are anime characters and not user names.  The explaination of Shifts comes from the Help/Payouts page...it's how this pool operates and manages the data related to each user's shares.

What's a shift?

When your miner sends shares to the pool, the shares are not stored individually, but rather summarised into shifts.
Shifts are ~50min or less in length.
Aproximately every 30s, the pool generates new work and sends that to all the miners.
The pool also sends new work every time a block is found on the Bitcoin network.
A shift summarises all the shares submitted to the pool for 100 work changes.
However, when we find pool blocks, the current shift ends at the work in which the block was found
and a new shift starts.
A ckpool restart will also end the current shift and start a new shift.
A network difficulty change will also end the current shift and start a new shift.

[nhando]

CapnBDL - Go ahead and point your Hash at Solo for Lady Luck.  PM me your Wallet address, let me throw 50TH for you on Kano so you can be the Big Captain for the next 8 hours.  Enjoy.

I should have followed up on your offer yesterday :p
Maybe I would have had 40Th for my 40th bday :p

I may extend similar offers whenever I hit a Block on Kano or whenever reverse rental is hot such as today.    50TH+ is hitting it for CAPTN now, using my new S7s until tonight or tomorrow morning when my partner comes in to reconfigure them.   Should be a minimum of 8hrs or more hitting it for the more extended 5ND.   GL CAPTN and Team Kano.  I'm out, time to take my kids out for lunch and enjoy the beautiful weather.

[blockchainmines]

So for people who don't know me, I do YouTube videos to try and help people get into bitcoin and and haven't posted one for awhile.  However, after this week and seeing how congested the bitcoin network was I thought I would talk about the relevance about mining with a pool that shares its transaction fees.  I actually had an order to bitmain not go through because my payment was never processed by a block, so 2 days later I get a payment failed and my funds returned.  I had another payment to bitmain this week, that went through but it took 1,354 minutes to confirm.  So I had to email bitmain since my order expired to make sure they will still fill it since it does say paid.  I have change my fee setting to generous in blockchain which is .001 and that is as high as I can set it.  Then today, I purchased some bitcoins from cex.io (btw is there a cheaper place or someone I can by them from here, 3.5% is ridiculous) and had them transferred to my blockchain account.  I almost instantly hear a beep when I hit send.  This morning, it took 27 minutes before it hit my wallet.   So yes that will be my topic, why miners need to jump off the big whales that hold all the transaction fees for themselves and start mining with smaller pools that share them.  Not only that I read this morning about CKs Pool software for a couple hours but the piece that really got my attention was this:

"We aim to remove the dependency of pool owners on custom software and the requirement for massive hardware infrastructure to run a stable and performant mining pool, thus dramatically lowering the barrier for entry for more pools to be created. In the process, we also aim to be providing tools to allow large mining farms to mine for themselves instead of directing their power to a large pool which would otherwise make them even larger and risking the security of the bitcoin network. While it may seem counter to the small miner's benefit to make large miners capable of running their own pool, it is an acceptance of where the bulk of the mining power is coming from and not make that mining power a risk to bitcoin. By providing them with software to mine in a manner that isn't designed to just mine blocks quickly but does so in a way that can lay down all transactions currently in flight without detriment to their block generating capacity, this will benefit the bitcoin network far more than them adding their hashes to a large pool."
 

This is exactly what bitcoin needs. But from where I stand I see it going the other direction.  I see everyone going to the the larger pools and if you go look at the larger pools they are all in China not to mention people who mine with those pools are not getting any of the transaction fees which are starting to grow.  We need to to get this out there and get a some more pools running on CK's code and try to reverse what to me appears to becoming more a centralized situation.

That brings me to my next point.  The bitcoin classic or bitcoin core.  The hard fork from 1 MB to 2 MB or you have another camp that wants to see it go to 8 MB.  I have not read enough on the subject, to give an educated opinion but I am hoping that Kano and CK and jump in here and tell me their thoughts. 

[greenuser]

So.....(as above)

That brings me to my next point.  The bitcoin classic or bitcoin core.  The hard fork from 1 MB to 2 MB or you have another camp that wants to see it go to 8 MB.  I have not read enough on the subject, to give an educated opinion but I am hoping that Kano and CK and jump in here and tell me their thoughts. 

well put blockchainmines

[blockchainmines]

Ok so has anyone heard of the proposed bitcoin lightning network?  You can read about it here

http://www.coindesk.com/could-the-bitcoin-lightning-network-solve-blockchain-scalability/


To me this is just one companies way to circumvent the blockchain by taking transactions and doing them privately, charging their own fees and then in the end dumping 1 transaction to be validated on on the blockchain. 

Sorry I have to throw the BS flag up on this one.  I understand the capacity issues, but I do not think this is the answer.  I spent a lot of money to be a miner and so to see this kind of outside manipulation makes me kinda mad. 

Any thoughts? 

[philipma1957]

Ok so has anyone heard of the proposed bitcoin lightning network?  You can read about it here

http://www.coindesk.com/could-the-bitcoin-lightning-network-solve-blockchain-scalability/


To me this is just one companies way to circumvent the blockchain by taking transactions and doing them privately, charging their own fees and then in the end dumping 1 transaction to be validated on on the blockchain.  

Sorry I have to throw the BS flag up on this one.  I understand the capacity issues, but I do not think this is the answer.  I spent a lot of money to be a miner and so to see this kind of outside manipulation makes me kinda mad.  

Any thoughts?  

does not belong here on this thread,  but it is really bad.  offline  mining is so fucked up I can not being to say why it is bad.

But GAW mining really pushed it and ended up busting out.  Having the feds after them.  This is a really bad idea.

[blockchainmines]

Ok so has anyone heard of the proposed bitcoin lightning network?  You can read about it here

http://www.coindesk.com/could-the-bitcoin-lightning-network-solve-blockchain-scalability/


To me this is just one companies way to circumvent the blockchain by taking transactions and doing them privately, charging their own fees and then in the end dumping 1 transaction to be validated on on the blockchain.  

Sorry I have to throw the BS flag up on this one.  I understand the capacity issues, but I do not think this is the answer.  I spent a lot of money to be a miner and so to see this kind of outside manipulation makes me kinda mad.  

Any thoughts?  

does not belong her on this thread,  but it is really bad.  offline  mining is so fucked up I can not being to say why it is bad.

But GAW mining really pushed it and ended up busting out.  Having the feds after them.  This is a really bad idea.

My bad on posting this on the wrong thread, I thought this was kinda a "Kano club"  thread.  I posted it here because I actually like the people here and get more support and responses.  I make sure I keep my future posts related to his pool.  Thanks for the heads up. 

[hhumaidan]

aaaaand flybit makes the acclaim board.

[wolfen]

Rockin' blocks!

[blockchainmines]

well f2pool is under DDOS attack right now so I am not sure if that is going to take them out of the game for a bit or if they are set up to deflect that type of thing.  If it takes them out then that is 280 PH we won't have to compete with for awhile 

[hoosier_13]

Good work flybit

[nhando]

CapnBDL, hopefully that Block was good payment, still ramping up so it will only get better, but no longer Dust territory.  =)

[kano]

Anyone else still having problems with the difficulty on the pool?

Sometimes, even with a set difficulty, it doesn't want to work.

Yes my some of my miners appear to been affected by the restarts and diff set high and then the miners shares drop, although my block % seems ok diff seems not right and high, Kano not sure if you can check when you have a moment, worker1 seems to always be affected and now looks like workers 2, 4 and 5 now too, username is Ares on website, can PM me your findings, thanks.

EDIT: 11:14 - Kano, I have manually set diff for worker3 & worker4 but seems to have had no effect.

OK, I've gone through the logs with this.

But firstly, the 2 most relevant points:

1) A higher diff with fewer shares - is the same as a lower diff with more shares.
The ONLY difference is variance, and at the miner level that variance is minor at worst/best.

2) You can't set your diff below what the pool decides it should be.
As it says on the Management page:
"* A value of 0, less than the pool minimum,
or less than the pool calculated value for you,
will use the pool calculated value"
However, to add to that explanation, Yes you can set it on the web site, but the pool wont change it below the pool calculated value.

So, to explain how it works as it is actually working correctly, here's the details (for worker2)

Now, I see you doing a diff change in the web 3 times:
Once to change worker3, once to change worker2, then finally to set them both back to 0 a couple of hours later.

I went through worker2's share log in detail and at the time you changed it, you put it below the pool calculated value, so yep it didn't change.

The pool value was 4622.0, you changed it to 3613, so it had no effect.
The pool aims for 18SPM (18 shares per minute)

Here's the numbers for the hour of "2016-Mar-6 12:00-12:59 UTC" which was after you set them during 11:00-11:59 and before you set them back to 0 during 13:00-13:59 - yeah I can work out the exact times but it doesn't matter

At diff 4622.0, worker2 submitted 901 shares - which happens to be 15 SPM.
All the shares were 4622.0 diff, so 901 shares at 4622.0 diff for 1 hour = 901 * 4622.0 * 2^32 / 3600 = 4.97TH/s

Now for 5THs (slight rounding) to get 18 SPM - that would come up with a diff of 5 * 10^12 * 60 / 18 * 2^32 = 3880 Diff
4622/3880 = 120% so 4662 is within the range to not adjust the difficulty.