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Author Topic: [25+PH] KanoPool kano.is NO FEE TIL 2018 PPLNS US,DE,SG,JP,NL,NYA 🐈  (Read 4923005 times)
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February 22, 2017, 01:12:01 PM
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Aw hell yeah! Triple Blocktacular with monster fees so far today!   Encore!!   Cheesy

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February 22, 2017, 01:32:01 PM
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Oh yeah!  That's the fattest one I've seen so far a believe!  14.92 says in my payout. Smiley
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February 22, 2017, 02:01:18 PM
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Are you kidding me!  That monster block by 1GT2CVYr4rt was our 3rd of the day! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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February 22, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
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A picture is worth how many words?


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February 22, 2017, 02:19:59 PM
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I joined the pool over at kano the other day and was pleasantly surprised to see 3 new blocks busted out over night..   Till I noticed in my rewards that im only showing that I was only counted with an average of just a bit over 1th/s even tho my miner was averaging about 5.3 th/s for the entire time that they were mineing for the pool.    and my expected payouts are the lowest daily earnings I have had yet out of any pool so far even on days with bad luck on other pools and with fees I still usually make for then I did for these last 3 blocks that I mined on for the whole duration .  

Block   Block UTC   Miner Reward   N Diff   N Range   Pool N Avg   Your %   Your N Diff                           Your N A  Your BTC
454159   22/Feb 10:17   14.92119812   2.218T   129hr 40m 16s   20.41PHs   0.01%   133.468M   1.23THs   0.00089781
454142   22/Feb 06:31   13.57878306   2.210T   129hr 6m 41s   20.42PHs   0.01%   116.964M   1.08THs   0.00071869
454128   22/Feb 04:53   13.67660334   2.210T   129hr 7m 50s   20.42PHs   0.00%   109.336M   1.01THs   0.00067657
454012   21/Feb 08:13   13.27492225   2.216T   129hr 10m 45s   20.47PHs   0.00%   16.820M   155.34GHs   0.00010076
Total:      0.00239383


Some thing dont seem right about these numbers esp with my hashrates if thats what the n average is supposed to represent..  seems it should be closer to 5th/s or close to it considering thats how much hashing power I was putting out and even showing in the top right corner of the kano page and under the workers tab.   for Share Rate and hash rate were showing to be between 4.8 and 5.4 and a few times when as high as 6ths

So thats whats got me really miffed to see the rewards as if i only had a hash rate slightly over 1.2ths on the highest showing n average on block 454159.
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February 22, 2017, 02:29:47 PM
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Well it explains PPLNS all on the web site:
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

But: as your table shows, the 5Nd is 129 hours - you haven't been mining for 129 hours yet.
The reward is shared out over all the previous 5Nd of shares which is currently back 129 hours.
So since you mined about 1/5 of those 129 hours, your hash rate average for the last 129 hours (Your N Avg) is about 1/5

If you quit now, you'll still be paid over the next 5Nd which is currently about 129 hours.
So you'll be reverse miffed for being paid for not mining ...

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February 22, 2017, 02:48:40 PM
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I joined the pool over at kano the other day and was pleasantly surprised to see 3 new blocks busted out over night..   Till I noticed in my rewards that im only showing that I was only counted with an average of just a bit over 1th/s even tho my miner was averaging about 5.3 th/s for the entire time that they were mineing for the pool.    and my expected payouts are the lowest daily earnings I have had yet out of any pool so far even on days with bad luck on other pools and with fees I still usually make for then I did for these last 3 blocks that I mined on for the whole duration . 

Block   Block UTC   Miner Reward   N Diff   N Range   Pool N Avg   Your %   Your N Diff                           Your N A  Your BTC
454159   22/Feb 10:17   14.92119812   2.218T   129hr 40m 16s   20.41PHs   0.01%   133.468M   1.23THs   0.00089781
454142   22/Feb 06:31   13.57878306   2.210T   129hr 6m 41s   20.42PHs   0.01%   116.964M   1.08THs   0.00071869
454128   22/Feb 04:53   13.67660334   2.210T   129hr 7m 50s   20.42PHs   0.00%   109.336M   1.01THs   0.00067657
454012   21/Feb 08:13   13.27492225   2.216T   129hr 10m 45s   20.47PHs   0.00%   16.820M   155.34GHs   0.00010076
Total:      0.00239383


Some thing dont seem right about these numbers esp with my hashrates if thats what the n average is supposed to represent..  seems it should be closer to 5th/s or close to it considering thats how much hashing power I was putting out and even showing in the top right corner of the kano page and under the workers tab.   for Share Rate and hash rate were showing to be between 4.8 and 5.4 and a few times when as high as 6ths

So thats whats got me really miffed to see the rewards as if i only had a hash rate slightly over 1.2ths on the highest showing n average on block 454159.

Kano is right, once your 5Nd is filled in you will see your full hash rate and you will be making more here than anywhere else.  It takes about 5.3 days to reach your full 5Nd but all is not lost.  These blocks will continue to pay you over the next 5 days on any blocks we may hit...even if you are not here. Grin

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February 22, 2017, 02:49:59 PM
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ok now that makes a lot more sence. Then when I was trying to figure that all out under the PPLNS info page on the website
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Thanks for the quick reply.  






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February 22, 2017, 04:35:37 PM
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ok now that makes a lot more sence. Then when I was trying to figure that all out under the PPLNS info page on the website
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Thanks for the quick reply.  

You can also view this system as a buffer. You have to work harder to earn your full share if you just recently switch into the pool, but you also get to enjoy some lasting payouts when you stop working.

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February 22, 2017, 05:13:03 PM
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ok now that makes a lot more sence. Then when I was trying to figure that all out under the PPLNS info page on the website
https://kano.is/index.php?k=payout

Thanks for the quick reply.  

You can also view this system as a buffer. You have to work harder to earn your full share if you just recently switch into the pool, but you also get to enjoy some lasting payouts when you stop working.

Along that same thought, which my other principal and I think is prime...if you're a small miner (we're running around 28TH), you're likely concentrated in just a few machines. If a machine goes down for whatever reason, and you don't have an immediate backup, with 5nD you've got a bit of breathing room to get your box back online without hurting your overall revenue stream too badly.

There is another reason...transparency. A pun for the morning (here)..."We can't see that anywhere else!"

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Along that same thought, which my other principal and I think is prime...if you're a small miner (we're running around 28TH), you're likely concentrated in just a few machines. If a machine goes down for whatever reason, and you don't have an immediate backup, with 5nD you've got a bit of breathing room to get your box back online without hurting your overall revenue stream too badly.

There is another reason...transparency. A pun for the morning (here)..."We can't see that anywhere else!"

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Thats one thing I do see kanopool seems good for that aspect for sure..   Other pools such as slushpool no matter what someone's scoring rate is and no matter how long a block goes the way they count the scoring hash rate is what someone's scoring rate is at the time a block if found.  and it takes about an hour of being off line for someone's scoring hash rate to drop to zero.  and about and hour & 20 mins to go from zero scoring rate back to being near whatever hash rate someone's rigs is hashing at.  So the way they score based on the scoring hash rate at the exact time the block is finished regardless of how long someone really worked on a block or there real average scoring rate spread out over the whole duration of the block can work out to be the crappy end of the stick if someones rate drops while the finish line is crossed on a block being found such as from a short power outage or internet connection dropping. 






 




   







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February 22, 2017, 07:34:34 PM
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...Other pools such as slushpool no matter what someone's scoring rate is and no matter how long a block goes the way they count the scoring hash rate is what someone's scoring rate is at the time a block if found...can work out to be the crappy end of the stick if someones rate drops while the finish line is crossed on a block being found such as from a short power outage or internet connection dropping.
One of the main reasons I left there.

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February 22, 2017, 07:53:54 PM
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I joined the pool over at kano the other day and was pleasantly surprised to see 3 new blocks busted out over night..   Till I noticed in my

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I am another example of how the 5Nd works.

I am currently only running three S7's at the pool. I try to mine at least 8-12 per day with them. However, over the last 2 days, I haven't been able to run them at all. BUT, I'm still getting payouts from the last blocks that were hit because, as my shift graph shows, I still have work in the pinkish 5Nd period.

Today, I was able to fire the S7's back up again and hope to have them running for at least the next few days before I have to shut them down for maybe 12 hours or so.

Good luck! You will like it here once everything makes more sense!   Cool

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February 22, 2017, 09:32:16 PM
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think I got a bad s7 guys. would someone tell me exactly what SHOULD happen when you fire up an S7?
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February 22, 2017, 10:27:40 PM
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think I got a bad s7 guys. would someone tell me exactly what SHOULD happen when you fire up an S7?
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Well the setup may require you to find the actual miner - via a static IP?
I'm not sure, I've never had an S7 or later, but you probably need to ask in the S7 thread coz someone will know there, what the defaults are.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1165628.0

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February 22, 2017, 10:46:48 PM
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just put my old sp10's on here to see what I get lol. 2 of the hash boards on the S7 smoked last time I tried to fire it up so am contacting seller...wish me luck with that
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what asics are you running Kano?
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February 22, 2017, 10:55:41 PM
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just put my old sp10's on here to see what I get lol. 2 of the hash boards on the S7 smoked last time I tried to fire it up so am contacting seller...wish me luck with that
Ah OK, not a 'setup' problem, sounds like something a lot worse unfortunately Sad

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February 22, 2017, 11:04:22 PM
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what asics are you running Kano?
I have 2 Canaan Avalon A7s
One of the original 6THs ones (721) and one of the newer 8THs ones (741)
They show on the website for everyone to see under Workers->K.Workers and Workers->K.Graph
i.e. that's my Workers

The graphs show:
I usually mine about 16-18 hours a day, but also often all weekend.
Every so often other people point miners at my account and I get a spike of extra hash rate also Smiley
(like it shows about a week ago on the graph)

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the difficulty rate for my workers is at 0. What would you recommend that be set at?
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