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February 25, 2017, 08:43:34 PM
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Cobramining! :cobra:

3 blocks yesterday ... 2 today (so far).  
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February 25, 2017, 08:44:46 PM
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does anyone in this pool do anything with gpu mining? been building my own comps since 89 and have learned more the past couple months perusing this forum than the last few years! good info on here (bad also) so would someone else who is reliable to point me in the right direction so I get myself screwed up  Cheesy
GPU (and CPU) mining are only for alt coins.
You'll need to visit the alt coin section of the forum for questions and answers about that.

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February 25, 2017, 08:48:03 PM
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thanks Kano. been reading through those and a lot of differing opinions on a few things would like to find someone trustworthy to help me figure out who to believe and who to ignore lol  Wink
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February 25, 2017, 09:55:33 PM
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Well well look at that, looks like people started coming back as soon as they saw all the green stuff coming our way!   Hahaha

yeah but how many are bringing back poor old s9 gear.

the gear that killed off our luck.

Once again if you can not upgrade your s9s.  please leave them at f2pool or antpool.

my s9s all mine at f2pool

my avalon 721s mine here.

Do you just ignore how many s9v1 have found blocks lately? Not to mention I found two with mine on cksolo.  It's just Variance😉

Maybe Kano should run another report by miner version. See how it's improved;)

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February 25, 2017, 10:09:03 PM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

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February 25, 2017, 10:37:51 PM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

Well we can never know as most of them jumped ship. So they could have never had a chance to redeem themselves. That's partly why the pool suffered such a dry spell imo. But hard to say definetivly.  I'd love for you to run a report of blocks found over the last 4-5 months and by what version cgminer or bmminer. Wink

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February 25, 2017, 11:02:02 PM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

Well we can never know as most of them jumped ship. So they could have never had a chance to redeem themselves. That's partly why the pool suffered such a dry spell imo. But hard to say definetivly.  I'd love for you to run a report of blocks found over the last 4-5 months and by what version cgminer or bmminer. Wink

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February 25, 2017, 11:32:16 PM
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Well you can rest easy now then because the two s9s i had shipped to me will not be going to any pool now at all. .bitmain screwed up and wrote down that the contents of the package contained HASH BO so I got a notice from fedex saying that customs and the dea popped my shipment and confiscated it thinking it contained 10 kilos of freaking hashish.    And I'm sure I will never see a dime of the money I paid for them either.  nore would in ever spend a dime with bitmain again now.








It's kind of hard to believe that fedex would confiscate them just because it was named hash board.
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February 25, 2017, 11:32:38 PM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

Well we can never know as most of them jumped ship. So they could have never had a chance to redeem themselves. That's partly why the pool suffered such a dry spell imo. But hard to say definetivly.  I'd love for you to run a report of blocks found over the last 4-5 months and by what version cgminer or bmminer. Wink

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Luck isn't expected to redeem itself.
This is something that I've mentioned a number of times but will repeat again.

The expectation is always 100% ... but what is expected to be 100%?
When luck 'goes bad', there is no expectation for it 'go good' to reverse that run of 'bad luck'
The expectation is still that each future block will be 100%
What this results in is a gradual approach to 100% overall luck, like an curve approaching 100% but stretching out to infinity.
If luck for 100 blocks was 90% and then you add a whole bunch of 100% blocks, you keep approaching closer to 100% - that's what's expected.

What actually happens? Well that's random and can only be seen in hindsight.

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... and using less data points to make a decision is how one can fudge the data to get the answer they want rather than the correct answer.

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February 25, 2017, 11:42:41 PM
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thanks Kano. been reading through those and a lot of differing opinions on a few things would like to find someone trustworthy to help me figure out who to believe and who to ignore lol  Wink

Pm me I will point out threads and links for you.

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February 26, 2017, 12:16:48 AM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

Well we can never know as most of them jumped ship. So they could have never had a chance to redeem themselves. That's partly why the pool suffered such a dry spell imo. But hard to say definetivly.  I'd love for you to run a report of blocks found over the last 4-5 months and by what version cgminer or bmminer. Wink

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I'm pretty sure Kano knows what he is talking about.  If anyone would know about pools/luck and mining software it is him.  It would be hard to find a better expert.  

I never said he didnt.  I have the utmost respect for Kano. It's just if s9v1 has a real issue then how do we justify pointing it at any pool. As Phil suggests we know something is wrong so let's put the screws to f2pool. I don't think that is right at all. Where my machines run I cannot upgrade to s9v2 as they will def overheat.  I need full control of frequencies when it goes north of 80 deg f.  Not trying to rock the boat.

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February 26, 2017, 12:19:57 AM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

Well we can never know as most of them jumped ship. So they could have never had a chance to redeem themselves. That's partly why the pool suffered such a dry spell imo. But hard to say definetivly.  I'd love for you to run a report of blocks found over the last 4-5 months and by what version cgminer or bmminer. Wink

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Luck isn't expected to redeem itself.
This is something that I've mentioned a number of times but will repeat again.

The expectation is always 100% ... but what is expected to be 100%?
When luck 'goes bad', there is no expectation for it 'go good' to reverse that run of 'bad luck'
The expectation is still that each future block will be 100%
What this results in is a gradual approach to 100% overall luck, like an curve approaching 100% but stretching out to infinity.
If luck for 100 blocks was 90% and then you add a whole bunch of 100% blocks, you keep approaching closer to 100% - that's what's expected.

What actually happens? Well that's random and can only be seen in hindsight.

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Statistics simply requires more data points (a larger sample) to provide a more reliable analysis of the data.
... and using less data points to make a decision is how one can fudge the data to get the answer they want rather than the correct answer.

I agree.  Im not trying to bring up old stuff. It's just after a set amount of shares we should "expect" but not guaranteed to get a set amount of blocks. Was just curious if the numbers improved for s9v1 since the pool went so far in red.

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February 26, 2017, 12:32:31 AM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

Well we can never know as most of them jumped ship. So they could have never had a chance to redeem themselves. That's partly why the pool suffered such a dry spell imo. But hard to say definetivly.  I'd love for you to run a report of blocks found over the last 4-5 months and by what version cgminer or bmminer. Wink

BR

I'm pretty sure Kano knows what he is talking about.  If anyone would know about pools/luck and mining software it is him.  It would be hard to find a better expert.  

I never said he didnt.  I have the utmost respect for Kano. It's just if s9v1 has a real issue then how do we justify pointing it at any pool. As Phil suggests we know something is wrong so let's put the screws to f2pool. I don't think that is right at all. Where my machines run I cannot upgrade to s9v2 as they will def overheat.  I need full control of frequencies when it goes north of 80 deg f.  Not trying to rock the boat.

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Well I have to keep them down locked so manual settings are my only choice.

If you think they screw f2pool you could point them at antpool.

Although to many people they are the same pool or have the same people backing them.

This is hard to explain but I will give my best shot. I used to host a lot of 1 t.b. Dragon miners with li in China
They worked pretty well pointed to f2 pool or to antpool .

They were terrible point to Kano or ck solo.

I know they altered code on dragon miner.

I also know it seems that an effort was made to harm kanos pool by altering cgminer for years .

I could not mine a few altered cgmining devices well with Kano.

The tubes needed correct or special port to mine here.

It boils down to Kano giving us the fees and antpool f2pool keeping the fees.

Or segwit.  But this is a ramble

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February 26, 2017, 01:55:35 AM
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It's kind of hard to believe that fedex would confiscate them just because it was named hash board.

From what there saying its customs that put the hold on it and its now just in some extra hold but it didn't say it contained hash "boards" and they abbreviated it So it was saying contents contained HASH BO      Tho I know thats prob for hash boards.  which is still weird that they would even put anything on the bill of lading saying hash any even hash boards. Being they were full assembled s9's

IM sure its going to get straightened out eventually esp once they actually open the box and snoop threw it they are going to see its not even anything that could hide much of anything inside one of the miners too easily.

Im still ticked tho.  But not bugging as bad as when fedex was making it sound like it was either not going to arrive at all or be held up for a long time.   
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Im still ticked tho.  But not bugging as bad as when fedex was making it sound like it was either not going to arrive at all or be held up for a long time.  

They are a b****h of a company. #ihateFedEx

I hope you get them through.  I can tell you that I currently have a package from last April that is held in a facility and another from December.  It's only FedEx with international. My packages haven't been delivered and they are charging me "holding fees." 

I hope you get your packages quickly and you may want to consider options for expediting ... so you can point them to the best bitcoin mining pool.

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February 26, 2017, 03:38:57 AM
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CDF[Erl] 0.992506 ... I'm not convinced it's variance ...

Edit: the main point being, yes they've found blocks ... that's been the case since they started mining.
The problem being how many blocks they've found.

Well we can never know as most of them jumped ship. So they could have never had a chance to redeem themselves. That's partly why the pool suffered such a dry spell imo. But hard to say definetivly.  I'd love for you to run a report of blocks found over the last 4-5 months and by what version cgminer or bmminer. Wink

BR

I'm pretty sure Kano knows what he is talking about.  If anyone would know about pools/luck and mining software it is him.  It would be hard to find a better expert.  

I never said he didnt.  I have the utmost respect for Kano. It's just if s9v1 has a real issue then how do we justify pointing it at any pool. As Phil suggests we know something is wrong so let's put the screws to f2pool. I don't think that is right at all. Where my machines run I cannot upgrade to s9v2 as they will def overheat.  I need full control of frequencies when it goes north of 80 deg f.  Not trying to rock the boat.

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Well I have to keep them down locked so manual settings are my only choice.

If you think they screw f2pool you could point them at antpool.

Although to many people they are the same pool or have the same people backing them.

This is hard to explain but I will give my best shot. I used to host a lot of 1 t.b. Dragon miners with li in China
They worked pretty well pointed to f2 pool or to antpool .

They were terrible point to Kano or ck solo.

I know they altered code on dragon miner.

I also know it seems that an effort was made to harm kanos pool by altering cgminer for years .

I could not mine a few altered cgmining devices well with Kano.

The tubes needed correct or special port to mine here.

It boils down to Kano giving us the fees and antpool f2pool keeping the fees.

Or segwit.  But this is a ramble

Just discussed with my ISP and we decided to lock down the S9s v1 as v1 -- no upgrades and will mine at another PPLNS pool.

However, I will bring 20 to kano pool to join the 120 x A721s currently mining here.

This will give a s9v1 target sample size (specific to citronick) for Kano to further track and monitor the current stats.

Kano, workers citronick.grayXXX (A721 x 120) and citronick.juviaXXX (s9v1 x 20). FYI

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February 26, 2017, 03:50:10 AM
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I have an S9 i just put online here and the guy I bought it from said to NOT update the firmware on the S9 I have... He said it is the old "GOOD" firmware..whatever that means...so i will leave it...On unit it says Ver1.0 What is best for the pool?....I have a second one coming this week but unsure of what firmware version will be on that unit...I'm new to this so still learning...Smiley
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February 26, 2017, 04:04:47 AM
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Im still ticked tho.  But not bugging as bad as when fedex was making it sound like it was either not going to arrive at all or be held up for a long time.  

They are a b****h of a company. #ihateFedEx

I hope you get them through.  I can tell you that I currently have a package from last April that is held in a facility and another from December.  It's only FedEx with international. My packages haven't been delivered and they are charging me "holding fees."  

I hope you get your packages quickly and you may want to consider options for expediting ... so you can point them to the best bitcoin mining pool.



I have good experience with DHL.

They moved more than 200 x miners from China to ISP (Canada) without major glitches and on-time.

I have bad experience with UPS and Fedex (missing & untraceable packages, damaged in transit, prolonged custom checks, incomplete paperwork, bad customer service).

I feel for the guy who got his consignment busted because of the "HASH BO" thing - that is just ridiculous.

Bitmain should just standardize the packing to say "Computer Equipment".


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They are a b****h of a company. #ihateFedEx
I have good experience with DHL.
I wish we still had them here. USPS is the only way I can reliably ship out internationally, which I do frequently.

They moved more than 200 x miners from China to ISP (Canada) without major glitches and on-time.
Did you have to pay customs fees?

I have bad experience with UPS and Fedex (missing & untraceable packages, damaged in transit, prolonged custom checks, incomplete paperwork, bad customer service).

I told them I needed the number for their attorney and they provided it to me within about 15 seconds.

#ihateFedEx

I feel for the guy who got his consignment bested because of the "HASH BO" thing - that is just ridiculous.

No doubt.  Stay on them.  Every day they are down it's costing you mining. Maybe it's a way BITMAIN is tryis to control difficulty??? #didIgetTrumpd? (conspiracy as normal)

I really hope you get them, now! That's really messed up.  I could understand if it was a shipment of rugs and avacados from Morocco.  I've seen that stuff on the TV, so I am an expert; they can simply open the package and pass it along as fine. I wonder if there are other problems. I wonder if PTP would have helped prevent this type of thing? I wonder what Kano thinks of us talking 'bout the enemy (just kidding, China)?

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We've got on a bunch more PH, up 8 or so, we should be solving more blocks ....  

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They moved more than 200 x miners from China to ISP (Canada) without major glitches and on-time.
Did you have to pay customs fees?

Of course.... its the Royal Canadian Customs after all  Cheesy

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DHL Express is a division of the German logistics company Deutsche Post. DHL providing international express mail services. Deutsche Post DHL is the world's largest logistics company operating around the world, particularly in sea and air mail. Source: Wikipedia

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