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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5349822 times)
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April 25, 2018, 12:41:47 AM
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There was a KDB restart just after processing that block - it lead to a large amount of lock contention and didn't recover fast enough to avoid the restart.
No mining is affected and the block is not affected at all either.
It'll all show up correctly when the KDB reload completes.
Unfortunately, sh*t hit the fan soon after this, and things went haywire there for a while.

The KDB reload had to be restarted a 2nd time due to resource issues - I manually stopped and restarted it before it completed the first time.
However, ckpool then crashed and burned, forcing a failover for all miners.

You will all have failed over to your backup pool at 23:38 UTC for 20 minutes Sad
Though it was probably 25 minutes due to the 5 minute delay to fail back that's in the miner code.

Of course no lost data or anything like that, that some people may worry about, the permanent data storage is a postgresql full transactional/relational database, and KDB itself also handles the state of the storage DB vs the pool - it reloads from the state in the storage DB and continues on with all the data that has arrived since then from the data logs until it catches up to 'now'

I put the web site into maintenance mode until everything was OK again, since during a reload there's a lot of zeros and '?'s that means it's not very useful until the reload completes, and it adds load onto the main server - which in this case it was best to get everything back up running ASAP.

All OK again since 23:58 UTC

Sorry about that.

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April 25, 2018, 12:43:37 AM
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I am excited!!! This will be my first block mined under Kano.

I am curious to see how much I make here compared to the other larger pools.

Are you guys sold on it being more profitable than antpool and btc?

By far. Hopefully you are ramped up.  

how long does it take for rewards to be posted to your account?


Website is back up.  You should be able to see it now.

If this is your first block here then you are not ramped up yet so your award is not a full one but are still ramping up, and yes you will make more here than anywhere else

That's a bummer. I held off on bringing all of my hashing here till I confirmed the process.

Just curious, what would an 82 th hashrate have brought for this block?



How many days did you have your miners pointed at Kano?  You should get a little bit north of .006 per block after 6 days currently but keep in mind that this will change as the pool size changes.


Also, you should be able to see your reward on the rewards tab but you won't see the BTC until after 101 confirms

Ok I think I am missing something.

With 82 TH speed, I will only be getting .006 to .007 btc per block? There is no other BTC added onto this # from the tx fees?

So for 2018, Kano has mined 49 blocks, with .006 or .007 btc per block, that is $2793 (assuming BTC is $9500) and that computes to $24.5 daily ($2793 divided by 114 days so far this year). $24.5 divided by 6 miners = $4 day.

I think I am getting something wrong because $4 a day per antminer S9 with bitcoin at $9500 is almost half the going payout.

Sorry for the confusion guys lol please help
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April 25, 2018, 12:53:28 AM
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I admit to some curiosity, so I'll ask a question:
What would a fully-ramped, 13.5TH S9 have been rewarded on this block?


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April 25, 2018, 12:59:21 AM
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I admit to some curiosity, so I'll ask a question:
What would a fully-ramped, 13.5TH S9 have been rewarded on this block?
Just plug it into Kano's BTC calculator...

http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php

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April 25, 2018, 01:01:56 AM
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Awesomeness!!! I wasn't sure if we really got that block. ISP is crashing on and off, and my Android app is going nuts. Then the kdb went, and sometimes the app says a block has been found when that happens. Thank You Sidewinder!!!


Also, welcome new members!!! My advice: Don't think in terms of daily online calculator payouts. Stick it out through the ramp up, and then at least a couple of months after. We do hit rough patches, like this last block, but we have double, and triple block days as well. The pool is growing,  making the ramp period shorter, and finding blocks quicker. In short, Big Corporate pools suck, Especially, Antfool. Be patient, don't jump to conclusion, and ask if you need help.

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April 25, 2018, 01:06:12 AM
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Sorry about that.
Sorry you had to deal with that. Sounds like you built a pretty good system to be able to recover so fast.

I work in an enterprise Hadoop+Oracle environment, and we'd still be picking up the pieces... Cry

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April 25, 2018, 01:26:44 AM
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I admit to some curiosity, so I'll ask a question:
What would a fully-ramped, 13.5TH S9 have been rewarded on this block?


Mine on!!!


Thats all I have, approx 0.0015-0.0016


ETA: I mined here through black february, "gave up" and went to snakepool for a few weeks, then came back.  For sure not leaving again, average over a period of time is higher here. 
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April 25, 2018, 01:38:25 AM
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Ok I think I am missing something.

With 82 TH speed, I will only be getting .006 to .007 btc per block? There is no other BTC added onto this # from the tx fees?

So for 2018, Kano has mined 49 blocks, with .006 or .007 btc per block, that is $2793 (assuming BTC is $9500) and that computes to $24.5 daily ($2793 divided by 114 days so far this year). $24.5 divided by 6 miners = $4 day.

I think I am getting something wrong because $4 a day per antminer S9 with bitcoin at $9500 is almost half the going payout.

Sorry for the confusion guys lol please help


In January pool hash rate was much lower, you would have made ~0.040 per block at 82TH back then.

Difficulty was also much lower - if the pool hashrate remained constant, we'd hit fewer blocks this month.

It's a function of your hashrate vs pool, and number of blocks found.

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April 25, 2018, 01:49:03 AM
Last edit: April 25, 2018, 02:04:26 AM by kano
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The expected reward per block depends on the expected number of blocks per day and the network difficulty.

The network difficulty changes every 2016 blocks = ~2 weeks - so there's no way anyone would expect the same reward per day, for even one month.

The pool hash rate decides the expected amount of blocks per day, and your reward per block will be affected by this also.
The part of your reward per block is the amount of work you submitted in the last 5Nd divided by 5Nd
But the length of time of 5Nd isn't fixed, the number 5Nd is what is fixed.
The length of time for 5Nd depends on the pool hash rate.

So if the pool hash rate doubles, you'd expected to get half as much per block for your hash rate.
But the pool is also expected to find twice as many blocks - so that's the same expected reward.

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April 25, 2018, 01:54:18 AM
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"Just curious, what would an 82 th hashrate have brought for this block?"

*** OK so to give you an example, fully ramped up at 98.93 THs I received .00838871 in BTC rewards...

Where you really start kicking some ass is when you are fully ramped up and we hit 2 or more blocks per day...  Then compare to those other pools.. This is the only place to mine bitcoin in my opinion!

Hope this helps a little...

Block   Block UTC   Miner Reward   N Diff   N Range   Pool N Avg   Your %   Your N Diff   Your N Avg   Your BTC
519795   2018-Apr-24 22:50   12.42936087   19.210T   156hr 8m 17s   146.78PHs   0.07%   12.948G   98.93THs   0.00837781


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April 25, 2018, 02:27:42 AM
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I am excited!!! This will be my first block mined under Kano.

I am curious to see how much I make here compared to the other larger pools.

Are you guys sold on it being more profitable than antpool and btc?

Just remember the 5 block ramp-up... you will only see 1/5th of your reward (vaguely speaking, its a bit more complicated than that).  The rest if being buffered/delayed a bit.  You won't lose anything, but it will take 5 blocks before you reach full payment per block.

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April 25, 2018, 02:29:11 AM
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how long does it take for rewards to be posted to your account?


First the block need to have 100 confirm, then Kano post the reward transaction.  These days that kicks in by a blockchain block or two.  Worst case it gets paid by Kano's next block find.

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April 25, 2018, 02:42:56 AM
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Why was it that immediately after the last block was found, my reward was .0070?Huh   then after a while at some point within a half hour or so after it has dropped to .00698078?
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April 25, 2018, 02:52:42 AM
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I am excited!!! This will be my first block mined under Kano.

I am curious to see how much I make here compared to the other larger pools.

Are you guys sold on it being more profitable than antpool and btc?

It's a pretty simple comparison really; all pools expect to be at 100% luck over time so there are 2 things that determines where you will make the most BTC.  Number 1, do they pay the transaction fees to the miners?  If you mine at a pool that doesn't you are getting screwed big-time.  Number 2, how much are the pool fees?  Here at Kano we do get the transaction fees and the pool fee is only 0.9%, one of the lowest fees around.  If you mine here you will get more in the long run...no doubt about it.

Here is a really good read on the subject by Kano...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg23744687#msg23744687
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April 25, 2018, 03:01:04 AM
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does the site is working ok?
because miner status is ok, pools looks ok, but on site, looks like miner is not on this pool
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April 25, 2018, 03:14:15 AM
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Why was it that immediately after the last block was found, my reward was .0070?Huh   then after a while at some point within a half hour or so after it has dropped to .00698078?

The reward for that block didn't post right away because of the KDB issue, at least that was what I saw.  What was your reward for block 519230?
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April 25, 2018, 04:16:51 AM
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does the site is working ok?
because miner status is ok, pools looks ok, but on site, looks like miner is not on this pool

690   ultimul   11.51THs

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April 25, 2018, 05:24:08 AM
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Anyone know of any place that has openings for hosting miners?

Looking to add more miners for Kano but need a place to put them...

Thanks and Mine On Kano!!

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April 25, 2018, 07:03:18 AM
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As some may have noticed (and I mentioned yesterday) there's been a bit of network connectivity trouble around the area of the main stratum node.

However, today it's been the stratum node itself, no other nodes having problems (ignoring the KDB restart problem much earlier Tongue)

So I've setup 3 new nodes today on AWSLS and will be moving everyone mining on stratum.kano.is and nonce.kano.is over to those 3 new nodes.
They're already configured, running and tested.

The first step will be to change the DNS so that all new connections end up on the new nodes.
Then an hour later I'll force a failover so everyone still on the old servers will reconnect to the new servers.

So to be specific, I'm changing around the DNS now (07:00 UTC) and I'll push everyone over to the new servers at 08:00 UTC

The 'push over' will be a failover, so you may get up to a 5 minute failover to your other pools, if they aren't all kano.is

This is ONLY for miners on stratum.kano.is and nonce.kano.is, no other nodes will be changed.

... and you don't need to do anything, it will just switch you over.

Mine on! Smiley

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April 25, 2018, 08:29:43 AM
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That's the Truth!!!


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