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June 16, 2018, 09:30:22 PM
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Do I read that as: If you can't mine with the Big Boys we keep and use your "dust"?
Also, the line in the dust (sorry, couldn't resist) is somewhere around an S7 or V9 mining - hardly "big boys".  Unless my info is dated, a single S9 should be fine.
My Avalon6 is about 2x the dust threshold these days.

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June 16, 2018, 09:32:06 PM
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Let's Crack this BTClock!!!
Amen and amen!

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June 16, 2018, 09:34:45 PM
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...I have 5 S3s and not enough power to run them all at once...
Do you have a dryer outlet available???

Here's what I did...
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June 16, 2018, 09:44:41 PM
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...I have 5 S3s and not enough power to run them all at once...
Do you have a dryer outlet available???

it's not that, It'sa LARGE travel Trailer with 30 amp service my electric is included but my service won't handle all 5 running at once. Even if I vent it I still gotta run my AC.  Building some dryer vents to vent the hot. Gotta shut down 3-4 during the day depending on how hot it is. Winter comes I'll be golden as I'll vent them indoors. Also working on moving a few to a storage/shop I got but got WiFi issues there. Looking at stepping up for a bigger hash rate miner but money is still an issue and the lower BTC goes makes it more of an issue. My ROI on these S3s is a year but it's still not much money, just gonna take a while to get there.
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June 16, 2018, 09:47:55 PM
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I'M ON 220 VOLT POWER NOW, BABY!!!

To be continued...
So, at long last I completed a rite of passage in the journey of BTC mining...

I used the following box to split a 220v 30a dryer cord (NEMA 10-30P) into four (4) separate 14awg cables (14/2 UF-B Romex):

https://preview.ibb.co/k04CLy/WP_20180602_15_43_45_Pro_2.jpg

Some benefits so far are 1) half the noise overall from my mining rig (Avalon6 + 1200w HP PSU) and 2) more consistent hashrates. We'll see when Summer temps come back after all this rain we've been having recently.

Don't have 220-240 at home. I have it in my shop for my welders but Wifi issues preclude my setting them there yet. with some shenanigans I can pull 220 in here but I gotta watch for management in this Senior Park.....They'll have a cow if the find out what I'm doing.
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June 16, 2018, 09:57:28 PM
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Don't have 220-240 at home. I have it in my shop for my welders but Wifi issues preclude my setting them there yet. with some shenanigans I can pull 220 in here but I gotta watch for management in this Senior Park.....They'll have a cow if the find out what I'm doing.

Do the opposite run a long run of ethernet, it will probably be more reliable than your WIFI anyways. That's what I did to my garage where it was already wired for 220


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June 16, 2018, 10:13:52 PM
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Guys I just did some math while waiting for a pie to bake...ya ya ya I know,  I'm no mathmetician,  I'm not smart enough to do a wire xfer remember?  Seems 73% of the pool's hashrate is the top ten miners.  there's 1075 users currently active, and that number is WAY down from when I started mining here.  Not complaining, but looking at it from the angle that this is hardly a decentralized effort.  I know that attracting the whales is a key step for this pool to move forward, and for all I know that 73% number might look very decentralized compared to our competition, but it seems we are losing the little guy in droves!  How to keep the small timer's around I wonder?  And attract more?   I came here from slush and have not regretted that decision at all, but, I am starting to see my opinion shift into the minority!  
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June 16, 2018, 10:22:43 PM
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Don't have 220-240 at home. I have it in my shop for my welders but Wifi issues preclude my setting them there yet. with some shenanigans I can pull 220 in here but I gotta watch for management in this Senior Park.....They'll have a cow if the find out what I'm doing.

Do the opposite run a long run of ethernet, it will probably be more reliable than your WIFI anyways. That's what I did to my garage where it was already wired for 220

My shop is three miles away. Can't afford the Cat-6 to get there and the local authorities might have a problem with it on the sidewalk.
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June 16, 2018, 10:28:03 PM
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I understand about how he has a lot on his plate. AND I understand how he has a responsibility to the bigger miners. I'm a noob to mining and here so it's difficult to conceive of the numbers some of the bigger miners are mining. Alls I can say is there are some of us new to this without resources to go into big time (I have 5 S3s and not enough power to run them all at once) yet that would be incentivized by even a small reward for my (our) efforts? The dust minimum is what it is and I've got power (and money) issues to get there. Not lookin for a lot.....just some small gratification.

S7s are barely worth running today unless you have free power (which few actually do - SOMEBODY is paying for that power!).  I hate to say it but (5) S3s is wha? ~2.5TH? - you could save power by replacing those with a single S9 and be running 5+ times faster.

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June 16, 2018, 10:28:19 PM
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Guys I just did some math while waiting for a pie to bake...ya ya ya I know,  I'm no mathmetician,  I'm not smart enough to do a wire xfer remember?  Seems 73% of the pool's hashrate is the top ten miners.  there's 1075 users currently active, and that number is WAY down from when I started mining here.  Not complaining, but looking at it from the angle that this is hardly a decentralized effort.  I know that attracting the whales is a key step for this pool to move forward, and for all I know that 73% number might look very decentralized compared to our competition, but it seems we are losing the little guy in droves!  How to keep the small timer's around I wonder?  And attract more?   I came here from slush and have not regretted that decision at all, but, I am starting to see my opinion shift into the minority!  

I believe, that user number dropped because there were rentals connected, and they've been removed to better protect the pool.
You are correct, that we're losing smaller miners, and I believe that is price related. They simply cannot afford to pay to run their
equipment at the current price. Unless we can somehow raise the price, or lower their bills, there's not much we can do to keep
them around.

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June 16, 2018, 10:30:33 PM
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Guys I just did some math while waiting for a pie to bake...ya ya ya I know,  I'm no mathmetician,  I'm not smart enough to do a wire xfer remember?  Seems 73% of the pool's hashrate is the top ten miners.  there's 1075 users currently active, and that number is WAY down from when I started mining here.  Not complaining, but looking at it from the angle that this is hardly a decentralized effort.  I know that attracting the whales is a key step for this pool to move forward, and for all I know that 73% number might look very decentralized compared to our competition, but it seems we are losing the little guy in droves!  How to keep the small timer's around I wonder?  And attract more?   I came here from slush and have not regretted that decision at all, but, I am starting to see my opinion shift into the minority!  

I wonder how many of those little guys are running older equipment and have shutdown due to higher diff and lower price?

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June 16, 2018, 10:32:04 PM
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My shop is three miles away. Can't afford the Cat-6 to get there and the local authorities might have a problem with it on the sidewalk.

Is it line-of-sight by any chance?  I use radio bridges to go between my buildings and they work fine (about $69 each and you need a pair (disclosure:  price from memory a year ago)).

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June 16, 2018, 10:42:39 PM
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I understand about how he has a lot on his plate. AND I understand how he has a responsibility to the bigger miners. I'm a noob to mining and here so it's difficult to conceive of the numbers some of the bigger miners are mining. Alls I can say is there are some of us new to this without resources to go into big time (I have 5 S3s and not enough power to run them all at once) yet that would be incentivized by even a small reward for my (our) efforts? The dust minimum is what it is and I've got power (and money) issues to get there. Not lookin for a lot.....just some small gratification.

S7s are barely worth running today unless you have free power (which few actually do - SOMEBODY is paying for that power!).  I hate to say it but (5) S3s is wha? ~2.5TH? - you could save power by replacing those with a single S9 and be running 5+ times faster.

Don't have the cash to step up for an s9 quite yet. And the continuous 1200 watts may be a problem for me here. But thinking of sellin the S3s as a package and adding a bit to it then stepping up. I gots $125 in all of them w/PSUs. Not sure what I can get but I think I can come out on top.
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June 16, 2018, 10:42:50 PM
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Don't have 220-240 at home. I have it in my shop for my welders but Wifi issues preclude my setting them there yet. with some shenanigans I can pull 220 in here but I gotta watch for management in this Senior Park.....They'll have a cow if the find out what I'm doing.

Does no one complain about the exhaust noise?
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My shop is three miles away. Can't afford the Cat-6 to get there and the local authorities might have a problem with it on the sidewalk.

Is it line-of-sight by any chance?  I use radio bridges to go between my buildings and they work fine (about $69 each and you need a pair (disclosure:  price from memory a year ago)).
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Tried it but property management won't let me put an antenna on the roof. also he often for no apparent reason kills power to my building for a time.
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Don't have 220-240 at home. I have it in my shop for my welders but Wifi issues preclude my setting them there yet. with some shenanigans I can pull 220 in here but I gotta watch for management in this Senior Park.....They'll have a cow if the find out what I'm doing.

Does no one complain about the exhaust noise?

I'm in the back in the RV section. Snowbirds are gone till November and my only neighbors are 150ft away. Not an issue.
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June 16, 2018, 10:50:35 PM
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At the moment I have three online (and it's hot in here) and I'm running 1.3 THz so I'm almost there. Running a RV Roof heatpump that's on a separate circuit but it's not enough to cool the entire place in the heat of the day. main AC has 15k BTU and I haveta shut off the water heater (and the miners) to run it.
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June 16, 2018, 11:21:28 PM
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At the moment I have three online (and it's hot in here) and I'm running 1.3 THz so I'm almost there. Running a RV Roof heatpump that's on a separate circuit but it's not enough to cool the entire place in the heat of the day. main AC has 15k BTU and I haveta shut off the water heater (and the miners) to run it.
You, sir, deserve some merit for sheer dedication alone. Wink

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June 16, 2018, 11:35:42 PM
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This is how I've kept mine "cool" so far--max of 35/36°C intake temps.

It's a 6" semi-rigid aluminum dryer vent out a window with the other side blocked off with some foam board. It's admittedly ghetto, but I keep it clean (with Duster Wink):


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The current 'dust' belongs to whoever owns the account that has the dust.
I wont be taking it away, it will be sent to them.
If they want to forward it later to someone else, then that's just a straight forward BTC transaction, and their individual choice.

As mentioned before, the new payout system will be: every block, or, once a week, or one a month.
You'll be able to set a payout limit on your account - it will probably default to 0.01 BTC (I've not decided the value yet - but it will also have a lower limit)
Every block will be the top 100-200, or there abouts, but limited to only the top 100-200 miners, who are above their payout limit (and above 0.01)
Weekly will be everyone else who has their outstanding balance, when I do the weekly payout, above their account specified limit.
Monthly will be everyone else, so each month the pool balance will effectively be zero.

Once I have sent out all the dust in the first 'once a month' I will probably set a 100sat limit to monthly rewards and any less than '100sat' would go to the pool and just be part of the txn fees paid to send the payouts.
If you can't make 1c a month mining on the pool, then, well, yep that will make you want to go somewhere else.
At the moment, 100sat/1c a month/12c a year is very roughly 20GHs1GHs, and of course that 20GHs1GHs will keep climbing.
I haven't finalised my decision on this 'after the first dust payout' 100sat limit - but I can't see any other way to stop ridiculously tiny balance accounts hanging around for a loooooong time.

Edit: sorry mistake there Smiley 100 sat/month is less than 1GHs

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