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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5350105 times)
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January 04, 2017, 03:53:30 AM
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Arigato, kano-san mate. I love hearing about the "under the bonnet" goings on!  Cool

One of the many reasons this pool is for me! Cheesy
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January 04, 2017, 05:08:03 AM
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When I first started here we were at 1.79PHs and I was making way more than any other pool I was on previously by far.  The actual size of the pool is not as important as your level of patience and your ability to tolerate variance. Grin

These posts made me look back, been here a while and quite happy with the pool. Luck is luck and it all equals out in the long run.

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January 04, 2017, 11:03:49 AM
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Would you prefer miners with a certain number of workers aggregate them behind a proxy?
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January 04, 2017, 11:13:59 AM
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Would you prefer miners with a certain number of workers aggregate them behind a proxy?
Well if you use a proxy it reduces the amount of data being transferred and thus speeds things up a little for both you and the pool.
Especially if you have hundreds of miners.

Running ckproxy in standard proxy mode would normally only get one work item every 30 seconds then break that down to each of the miners talking to the proxy.
There is a point where it will make extra connections to handle more miners, but it's still only one connection per a sizeable number of miners.

If you run ckproxy in passthru mode it doesn't really make any noticeable difference since each miner will effectively have it's own work and connection.

Running a proxy will increase your share variance - but only relative to how many miners you have.
In general it wont really be a noticeable increase in variance.

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January 04, 2017, 03:17:01 PM
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...Running ckproxy in standard proxy mode would normally only get one work item every 30 seconds then break that down to each of the miners talking to the proxy.
There is a point where it will make extra connections to handle more miners, but it's still only one connection per a sizeable number of miners.
...Running a proxy will increase your share variance - but only relative to how many miners you have.
In general it wont really be a noticeable increase in variance.
The only way it could be better is if you didn't hate Windows so much.  Tongue

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Always be on the look out, because you never know when you'll be stalked by hit-men that eat nothing but cream cheese....
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January 04, 2017, 03:49:18 PM
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Block by loki76 with 15.16TH/s!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block!  This is our 1st of the day!  Cheesy
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January 04, 2017, 03:55:16 PM
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...Running ckproxy in standard proxy mode would normally only get one work item every 30 seconds then break that down to each of the miners talking to the proxy.
There is a point where it will make extra connections to handle more miners, but it's still only one connection per a sizeable number of miners.
...Running a proxy will increase your share variance - but only relative to how many miners you have.
In general it wont really be a noticeable increase in variance.
The only way it could be better is if you didn't hate Windows so much.  Tongue
I don't use windows at all - so no idea what you are referring to.

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January 04, 2017, 04:09:44 PM
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The only way it could be better is if you didn't hate Windows so much.  Tongue
I don't use windows at all - so no idea what you are referring to.
That was my point.  Tongue

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January 04, 2017, 04:23:43 PM
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The only way it could be better is if you didn't hate Windows so much.  Tongue
I don't use windows at all - so no idea what you are referring to.
That was my point.  Tongue
If you think I should write windows programs, then no, no chance of that - I don't do that.
I'll leave that to you to do since you want it.

I need an OS that's reliable and isn't under control of a company who shuts it down whenever they feel like it and track everything you do so that someone can write a virus to look at all your key logs and typed passwords etc etc

I could also point out to you that Avalon and Bitmain miners don't use windows either ...
A proxy needs to keep running under your control, not under some companies control that decides your proxy can be shutdown when they feel like it ...

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January 04, 2017, 04:34:25 PM
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I was j/k.  I seem to remember a prior comment from one of you guys about choosing death over dev for Windows and it was all funny in my head. Tongue  Cry

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January 04, 2017, 04:35:25 PM
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The only way it could be better is if you didn't hate Windows so much.  Tongue
I don't use windows at all - so no idea what you are referring to.
That was my point.  Tongue
If you think I should write windows programs, then no, no chance of that - I don't do that.
I'll leave that to you to do since you want it.

I need an OS that's reliable and isn't under control of a company who shuts it down whenever they feel like it and track everything you do so that someone can write a virus to look at all your key logs and typed passwords etc etc

I could also point out to you that Avalon and Bitmain miners don't use windows either ...
A proxy needs to keep running under your control, not under some companies control that decides your proxy can be shutdown when they feel like it ...

I am and never was a big windows fan.

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January 04, 2017, 04:39:32 PM
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I am and never was a big windows fan.
Neither am I; I guess if I was as funny as I find myself, then I'd be a comic for a living and not a miner.  Undecided

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I was j/k.  I seem to remember a prior comment from one of you guys about choosing death over dev for Windows and it was all funny in my head. Tongue  Cry
I dunno how old you are...I know it says "retired," but these days people "retire" at 40. I'm 68, and I wrote my first code in 1960 using FORTRAN (that's FORTRAN I...where you had to construct you own DO loops), and with paper tape. Punch cards came later. CRTs MUCH later.

I have nothing Microsoft in my house...not that it wasn't elstwhise not that long ago (3 yrs). I kept a Windows box around just for troubleshooting other people's machines, but no more. I share Kano's view completely. Win10 was what really did it for me, and it only gets worse with each new iteration. So...that's why the only Windows in this house are made of glass (...well, there's one that's polycarbonate, but...). IMHO...one who believes Windows is neater than pre-sliced bread...has never tasted homemade bread.

Mine on.

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I'm not retired*, IRCX is (therefore so is my status as an "IRCX god").

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January 04, 2017, 05:29:05 PM
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...I'm 68, and I wrote my first code in 1960 using FORTRAN (that's FORTRAN I...where you had to construct you own DO loops), and with paper tape...
I've got to hear this story of how an 11-12 year old was punching FORTRAN in 1960....

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Wrong year...'62...that's what happens when you get old. I was 14. I do, however, remember what I had for breakfast...

My father worked for Southern Pacific in the 60s as a telegrapher/dispatcher. When SP initiated the TOPS (Total Operations Processing System) project, there were no computer classess at the universities...most didn't even have a mainframe. We lived in the PHX area at that time, and ASU had an early IBM system; SP engaged ASU and IBM to specially train a group of 15 employees from the ground up so they could be the field operatives to install/configure/train and maintain it. At that time, TOPS was the only nationwide IT network other than the government. The WWW did not exist.

My dad's supervisors knew me; I used to hang with him on Saturdays and late afternoons when he was working, and the telegraphers would sometimes have me sit at the key and work train orders (with supervision, of course). If the other clerks could get away with it, they'd have me type waybills (35 wpm...and this was before electrics). They asked him, since they had one slot open in the class that they had no one to fill, if I would like to participate. After getting my principal to give me two weeks off from school leading into summer break (not hard...I was A+) for "independent study," that was what happened.

It changed my life, and I'll be forever grateful to that stuffy old railroad executive who gave me the chance...and to the 13 other guys who treated me with respect, like an adult...and tried to get me to do their coding.  Cry

We started out with paper tape, and then the 020 series card punches/readers came out. I will never forget the first time I saw someone "dump" a box of 1,000 sequenced punch cards on the deck.  Roll Eyes

That's what we call in Hawai'i "long story short."  Kiss

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January 04, 2017, 06:28:13 PM
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Holy bat-poop, spot price is at $1130...there was a pretty big surge today.

I really enjoyed doing FORTRAN for my engineering classes back in the late '70s.  We used punch cards and there was a big competition to see who could get zero errors on the first try.  Those were fun days!

Now where did I put that block?!  It's time for a good 'ole Block Party! Grin
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January 04, 2017, 06:37:27 PM
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What kind of old farts convention we having here??  I recall programing FORTRAN on bubble cards, punch tape, etc...  First time we got to use a CRT was HOT SHIT!! 
Back OT - the dogsled has arrived in Labrador but I see only 1/2 the hash to the pool coming from the droid I dropped off there, R4B4 only running 4.xTHs.  Probably needs a cold restart, but at least more hash for breakfast (in my timezone...)!
Mine on!

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CB's maintenance scripts should take care of that, I would think...but not knowing anything about that hardware, no clue about how long it takes to ramp up. RU looking at hash rate direct, or reading it from the pool site?

EDIT: ...and if you had an amber CRT (v. green), you were really hot shit...80-col card image comms, readers/line printers the size of Volkswagens...man, those were the days.

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January 04, 2017, 07:40:34 PM
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What kind of old farts convention we having here??  I recall programing FORTRAN on bubble cards, punch tape, etc...  First time we got to use a CRT was HOT SHIT!! 
Back OT - the dogsled has arrived in Labrador but I see only 1/2 the hash to the pool coming from the droid I dropped off there, R4B4 only running 4.xTHs.  Probably needs a cold restart, but at least more hash for breakfast (in my timezone...)!
Mine on!

A lot of people having this problem with R4, would be nice if Bitmain chimed in with a fix

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