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April 03, 2017, 06:51:47 AM
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Hey Kano, I received the payment for the last block without us finding a new one about an hour ago.  Perfectly fine with me I just was wondering why, I believe that it's a first time I see this happen.  Thanks!  Smiley

Look back on the previous page, another pool confirmed the payout transaction.

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April 03, 2017, 07:07:21 AM
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Hey Kano, I received the payment for the last block without us finding a new one about an hour ago.  Perfectly fine with me I just was wondering why, I believe that it's a first time I see this happen.  Thanks!  Smiley
Yep:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg18436008#msg18436008

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April 03, 2017, 01:39:22 PM
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Hey Kano, I received the payment for the last block without us finding a new one about an hour ago.  Perfectly fine with me I just was wondering why, I believe that it's a first time I see this happen.  Thanks!  Smiley
Yep:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg18436008#msg18436008

That is funny...I sure had a puzzled look on my face Smiley

But hey, it's all good!  Time for more blocks! Cheesy
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April 03, 2017, 04:55:07 PM
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Ditto...that did the old...



on me...

Nice way to start the French press, however...  Kiss

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April 03, 2017, 11:20:53 PM
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Block! by 585rich Smiley with 7.5THs Smiley
Guessing it was an S5?
Another high txn fee block (1.6BTC) so maybe there was just a lull yesterday in transactions.

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April 03, 2017, 11:24:16 PM
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Block! by 585rich Smiley with 7.5THs Smiley
Guessing it was an S5?

Yea 585rich!  Welcome to the Acclaim Board with your 1st Kano block! Cheesy
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April 04, 2017, 04:01:54 AM
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Hey Kano, I received the payment for the last block without us finding a new one about an hour ago.  Perfectly fine with me I just was wondering why, I believe that it's a first time I see this happen.  Thanks!  Smiley
Yep:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg18436008#msg18436008

I see, ok thanks!
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April 04, 2017, 09:07:45 PM
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As an FYI ... I pointed my miners to a PPLNS signaling BU.  These transaction times and unc-tx. I've been waiting 20+ hours, again, with 0.0005+ tx/kb.  I don't know the answer, but I know it's not long queues and high tx fees as the Core team wants - too many altcoins.

Anyways ... we've discussed this and I thought I'd share. It didn't sound like you had any considerations of pointing BU, beyond small pool size?  I hope you take no offense to this, as that is not my intention, only to inform.  Great pool and great work! Happy to point back, but wanted to vote ...
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April 04, 2017, 09:37:55 PM
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The BU vote only requires 75% so it's even less relevant that the pool votes on it due to our current size.

Meanwhile, in the last 2 days we've had a zero fee pool block payout confirmed by another pool and I've personally sent out 3 transactions with fees around 3c and each has been confirmed in what I considered a reasonable amount of time considering the low fee: 33mins for the 1st one and 3.5hrs for 2nd and 3rd

So what I'm saying is yep something needs to be done soon, but nope neither of the options seem like a good long term solution at the moment.

Meanwhile, on the subject of voting, our top miners are clearly bringing in more hash rate and more soon, we'll see when it happens Smiley
When we get to a few % of the network I'll then be discussing with them (and anyone else who points multiple PHs of hardware at the pool long term) about that voting.

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April 04, 2017, 10:35:13 PM
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I've personally sent out 3 transactions with fees around 3c and each has been confirmed in what I considered a reasonable amount of time considering the low fee: 33mins for the 1st one and 3.5hrs for 2nd and 3rd

I am totally with you.  It has been great!  I was so used to it that I sent an important transaction with a "high" fee.  It stinks because, as you know, sometimes manufacturers are about timing.  The low fees are great.

I think I sent at a bad time because there were 2,000-ish unconfirmed ... then, 13,000 shortly thereafter.

So what I'm saying is yep something needs to be done soon, but nope neither of the options seem like a good long term solution at the moment.

I agree.  I don't think it's perfect.  

Meanwhile, on the subject of voting, our top miners are clearly bringing in more hash rate and more soon, we'll see when it happens Smiley
When we get to a few % of the network I'll then be discussing with them (and anyone else who points multiple PHs of hardware at the pool long term) about that voting.

Cool to know. I'm sure people will be happy to hear about planning.  I only threw less than 30 TH, so you won't be missing much.  I just hope I don't find my first block, now.  Cheesy  

I hope I'm still welcome in this forum. I feel terrible.  I simply followed a mantra of 1 hash = 1 vote.

On some of your comments in the past about being a small pool ...  my impression is that the pool and this thread have a larger weight than measured by hashrate.  I think discussions echo out.  Signaling would be more significant than you expect, imo, and it's an important decision to make.  Let's just keep finding blocks and growing bitcoin!

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April 04, 2017, 11:11:53 PM
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Meanwhile, on the subject of voting, our top miners are clearly bringing in more hash rate and more soon, we'll see when it happens Smiley
When we get to a few % of the network I'll then be discussing with them (and anyone else who points multiple PHs of hardware at the pool long term) about that voting.

Cool to know. I'm sure people will be happy to hear about planning.  I only threw less than 30 TH, so you won't be missing much.  I just hope I don't find my first block, now.  Cheesy  

I hope I'm still welcome in this forum. I feel terrible.  I simply followed a mantra of 1 hash = 1 vote.

On some of your comments in the past about being a small pool ...  my impression is that the pool and this thread have a larger weight than measured by hashrate.  I think discussions echo out.  Signaling would be more significant than you expect, imo, and it's an important decision to make.  Let's just keep finding blocks and growing bitcoin!

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Well I guess to expand on that point, I have made it clear, I think, why the pool isn't voting at the moment.

When I make the PH comment, I don't mean that power sways my decision, I simply mean that I'm open to 'discussions' about what to vote if they can convince me otherwise on technical or philosophical grounds.
But it's based on the fact also that even with the pool at 30PHs we really don't have a say in what happens since we certainly can't directly affect the vote outcome.
'When' we get a lot bigger, then we will have a direct say in it Smiley

However, as I've already said, if the network takes the required swing to accept an option, then those left over should also take that option.
By 'required swing' of course I mean 75% for BU or 95% for SegWit

In either case I expect that if momentum gets going above 50% for either option, it shouldn't be long after that for the rest to switch over also, but until the actual switch point, it's still undecided.

If some other option pokes it's head up that most agree with, then that could solve it also.

Edit: The bottom line is that bitcoin is a peer2peer transaction system, and if the majority says 'X' is what the system should now be, then that's what bitcoin now is.
The discussions about changing the PoW to stop a majority rule is beyond stupid.
If groups want some other alt-coin then go create it, but bitcoin is a distributed peer2peer transaction system that is not controlled by some minority that thinks they are the Bitcoin God.

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April 04, 2017, 11:31:06 PM
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Be nice to hit this "almost-an-hour-long" block!  Grin

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April 04, 2017, 11:33:12 PM
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The discussions about changing the PoW to stop a majority rule is beyond stupid.

SegWit?

Be nice to hit this "almost-an-hour-long" block!  Grin

Truth.  It should be chunky ...
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April 05, 2017, 06:06:43 AM
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For those who don't know too much about pool payout methods Smiley

... be aware that a "weighted score" payout scheme like Slush's is hoppable:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104664.msg1146110#msg1146110

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April 05, 2017, 06:31:44 AM
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Can someone tell me what the :Hi column means in the invalid detail for a worker?  I have an S7 which is generating over 7% invalids, from whatever the :Hi column means.  I want to figure out if there is anything I can do to the fix it.

It is soon getting replaced by an R4 but I am curious to understand what that column means.

Thanks!

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April 05, 2017, 02:05:34 PM
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For those who don't know too much about pool payout methods Smiley

... be aware that a "weighted score" payout scheme like Slush's is hoppable:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104664.msg1146110#msg1146110

The new method (as of a couple of years ago) is a scored PPLNS, which does make it unhoppable now.

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April 05, 2017, 02:12:02 PM
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For those who don't know too much about pool payout methods Smiley

... be aware that a "weighted score" payout scheme like Slush's is hoppable:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104664.msg1146110#msg1146110
The new method (as of a couple of years ago) is a scored PPLNS, which does make it unhoppable now.
Actually not; if you read the fine print, you get paid based on "scoring hash rate" at the time of block. If you catch the tail end of a block @ slush and your "scoring hash rate" is up to your actual, you get paid as if you submitted full shares the entire time.

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April 05, 2017, 03:18:34 PM
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Block by schmokeandapancake!  This is your 13th Kano block and our 1st of the day! Cheesy
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April 05, 2017, 03:32:32 PM
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kano? just another quick ? about dust payments.

If someone has a few tiny dust payments do the dust payments get sent out once someone has enough to be over the threshold / or do you still have to manually send all the dust payments out to some on if they ask??



and sorry in advance if this is a ? you have been asked by others a million times already.

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April 05, 2017, 03:41:24 PM
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For those who don't know too much about pool payout methods Smiley

... be aware that a "weighted score" payout scheme like Slush's is hoppable:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104664.msg1146110#msg1146110
The new method (as of a couple of years ago) is a scored PPLNS, which does make it unhoppable now.
Actually not; if you read the fine print, you get paid based on "scoring hash rate" at the time of block. If you catch the tail end of a block @ slush and your "scoring hash rate" is up to your actual, you get paid as if you submitted full shares the entire time.


and the opposite is also true with slush.  Someone could be at their full hash rate and working for a long time on a long a block, but if they drop out before the last 1hr and 40 mins or so. Then they get nothing if there scoring hash rate is back down to zero at the time the block is done. No matter how much work was submitted before that last hour and 40 mins it takes to drop to zero hash rate. 

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