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March 08, 2018, 04:31:12 AM
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Alright, so I looked through some of the recent conversations concerning consolidating payouts since I'm getting to the place now where I'm thinking of doing this, but I want a good secure strategy that fits well with my situation--preferably avoiding coinbase too.

I mine everything to a single, offline, paper wallet that's never had its private key exposed to anyone but myself. Yes, I went through the trouble of saving the JavaScript Bitcoin address generator code off to a CD, plugged it into an air-gapped PC, printed it out--even cleared the printer cache afterward...

Anyway, how exactly does everyone who's in a similar situation here transfer (sweep or import?) their mining payouts from cold storage to warm/hot wallets where they can spend the Bitcoins they've earned?

I have looked back through some conversations here and there; however, I'd like to know how you guys recommend doing this in a secure, repeatable manner. Thanks in advance.

I used to go the same route you go, but I've switched to using a hardware wallet. Makes these things much easier. I highly recommend one.
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March 08, 2018, 04:49:55 AM
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Alright, so I looked through some of the recent conversations concerning consolidating payouts since I'm getting to the place now where I'm thinking of doing this, but I want a good secure strategy that fits well with my situation--preferably avoiding coinbase too.

I mine everything to a single, offline, paper wallet that's never had its private key exposed to anyone but myself. Yes, I went through the trouble of saving the JavaScript Bitcoin address generator code off to a CD, plugged it into an air-gapped PC, printed it out--even cleared the printer cache afterward...

Anyway, how exactly does everyone who's in a similar situation here transfer (sweep or import?) their mining payouts from cold storage to warm/hot wallets where they can spend the Bitcoins they've earned?

I have looked back through some conversations here and there; however, I'd like to know how you guys recommend doing this in a secure, repeatable manner. Thanks in advance.

I have a trezor. You can have multiple wallets inside the trezor. Each pool I belonged to has it’s own payout address and it’s own wallet inside my trezor. This keeps my transaction numbers to minimums and let’s me view my payouts from each pool independently. Even though the pool shows the payout anyway. I still like looking at. Then I can still store my coins offline and have quick access if I need to send some.
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March 08, 2018, 04:52:08 AM
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Alright, so I looked through some of the recent conversations concerning consolidating payouts since I'm getting to the place now where I'm thinking of doing this, but I want a good secure strategy that fits well with my situation--preferably avoiding coinbase too.

I mine everything to a single, offline, paper wallet that's never had its private key exposed to anyone but myself. Yes, I went through the trouble of saving the JavaScript Bitcoin address generator code off to a CD, plugged it into an air-gapped PC, printed it out--even cleared the printer cache afterward...

Anyway, how exactly does everyone who's in a similar situation here transfer (sweep or import?) their mining payouts from cold storage to warm/hot wallets where they can spend the Bitcoins they've earned?

I have looked back through some conversations here and there; however, I'd like to know how you guys recommend doing this in a secure, repeatable manner. Thanks in advance.

I used to go the same route you go, but I've switched to using a hardware wallet. Makes these things much easier. I highly recommend one.

Same here, I use a non-USA based wallet to collect my payouts and consolidate to my hardware wallet around once a month.

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March 08, 2018, 07:00:47 AM
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Kano have asic boost?  Huh
Nope. Neither do you Smiley
Only Bitmain has AsicBoost in their new miner they've been running in their mines since the beginning of the year.
Sorry, I know this continues being kind of offtopic, but
what do you think about Halong Mining saying that the DragonMint T1 also has the AsicBoost in the miner?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2443327.msg31761228#msg31761228


If you believe Halong actually having a miner in the first place... Wink
Yeah, until they actually produce one and people have them mining ... who knows Smiley

Apparently the code for overt Asicboost is already live in slushpool and ckpool and prototype dragonmints have been Mining at both pools. There is a lot of interest in this new miner, and if it's going to only perform at spec on pools with overt Asicboost support then it would be worth looking into Including the code (once checked and approved) in kanopool I would have thought. Although I already suspect kano has seen the code by now and has already considered all this as it's already in Ckpool git https://bitbucket.org/ckolivas/ckpool

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March 08, 2018, 07:31:29 AM
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Kano have asic boost?  Huh
Nope. Neither do you Smiley
Only Bitmain has AsicBoost in their new miner they've been running in their mines since the beginning of the year.
Sorry, I know this continues being kind of offtopic, but
what do you think about Halong Mining saying that the DragonMint T1 also has the AsicBoost in the miner?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2443327.msg31761228#msg31761228


If you believe Halong actually having a miner in the first place... Wink
Yeah, until they actually produce one and people have them mining ... who knows Smiley

Apparently the code for overt Asicboost is already live in slushpool and ckpool and prototype dragonmints have been Mining at both pools. There is a lot of interest in this new miner, and if it's going to only perform at spec on pools with overt Asicboost support then it would be worth looking into Including the code (once checked and approved) in kanopool I would have thought. Although I already suspect kano has seen the code by now and has already considered all this as it's already in Ckpool git https://bitbucket.org/ckolivas/ckpool

I just went over to the thread in mining speculation ... ck says it's real and is testing on ckpool (maybe no more disappearing block rewards, eh?)

Guessing that Bitmain will also start enabling ASICboost on miners they sell ( hello S9+? )

I wonder if in reality all the chinese pools had already enabled this anyway, seeing as difficulty has more than doubled since December ... maybe Kano would be able to enable ASICboost and create an open miner that works on Avalon and Bitmain devices ?

Meanwhile... probablities suggest we ought to get the next block before the weekend Smiley

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March 08, 2018, 08:20:16 AM
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Kano have asic boost?  Huh
Nope. Neither do you Smiley
Only Bitmain has AsicBoost in their new miner they've been running in their mines since the beginning of the year.
Sorry, I know this continues being kind of offtopic, but
what do you think about Halong Mining saying that the DragonMint T1 also has the AsicBoost in the miner?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2443327.msg31761228#msg31761228


If you believe Halong actually having a miner in the first place... Wink
Yeah, until they actually produce one and people have them mining ... who knows Smiley

Apparently the code for overt Asicboost is already live in slushpool and ckpool and prototype dragonmints have been Mining at both pools. There is a lot of interest in this new miner, and if it's going to only perform at spec on pools with overt Asicboost support then it would be worth looking into Including the code (once checked and approved) in kanopool I would have thought. Although I already suspect kano has seen the code by now and has already considered all this as it's already in Ckpool git https://bitbucket.org/ckolivas/ckpool

I just went over to the thread in mining speculation ... ck says it's real and is testing on ckpool (maybe no more disappearing block rewards, eh?)

Guessing that Bitmain will also start enabling ASICboost on miners they sell ( hello S9+? )

I wonder if in reality all the chinese pools had already enabled this anyway, seeing as difficulty has more than doubled since December ... maybe Kano would be able to enable ASICboost and create an open miner that works on Avalon and Bitmain devices ?

Meanwhile... probablities suggest we ought to get the next block before the weekend Smiley

MINE ON!

It requires hardware support, so you can't add it to miners that dont support it in hardware. Also there is a difference between Overt (Dragon) and Covert (bitmain) versions of Asicboost so unless bitmain add overt to their miners it won't help them.

Thing that I'd like some clarity on, ASICboost was only suppost to improve the efficiency of a miner, not its hashing speed, so it did the same but used less power. Overall of course this would lead to either being able to push the miner faster for the same power usage (if the hardware could handle it) or running more individual miners but using the same power. (e.g. if it gave a 25% reduction in power, you could run 5 miners for the power you used to run 4 miners)

Is this new version of overt ASICboost different? There are hints that the Dragonmint miners will only run at 1/4 speed on non-asicboost pools. That sort of doesn't line up with how we all thought ASICboost worked.

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March 08, 2018, 12:55:45 PM
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Is anyone running with the new 821's yet? Any issues? They seem a little pricey but thinking about growing a little.

They work flawlessly.  Just getting used to them being combined as one miner, since I'm not buying another Raspberry Pi just for this.  But really stable and run about 11.5 T/H or so.   

Thanks, I am in USA, minimum Qty to buy is 10. 30K plus for 115TH seems a little stiff. I wouldn't mind getting in on a combination buy with others though. Mine On with Kano-San.
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March 08, 2018, 02:01:07 PM
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Sorry all, I've deleted all the posts about someone getting people to fund buying miners.
Firstly, I've no idea who the person is, and secondly it's a brand new account asking for people to send them money.
Both of those mean the discussion will be not be held here.

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March 08, 2018, 02:02:15 PM
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It requires hardware support, so you can't add it to miners that dont support it in hardware. Also there is a difference between Overt (Dragon) and Covert (bitmain) versions of Asicboost so unless bitmain add overt to their miners it won't help them.

Thing that I'd like some clarity on, ASICboost was only suppost to improve the efficiency of a miner, not its hashing speed, so it did the same but used less power. Overall of course this would lead to either being able to push the miner faster for the same power usage (if the hardware could handle it) or running more individual miners but using the same power. (e.g. if it gave a 25% reduction in power, you could run 5 miners for the power you used to run 4 miners)

Is this new version of overt ASICboost different? There are hints that the Dragonmint miners will only run at 1/4 speed on non-asicboost pools. That sort of doesn't line up with how we all thought ASICboost worked.


https://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.00575.pdf is the whitepaper for this new boost.

Sections 3.4.1-3.4.2 talks about how it is different than the Bitmain version. What Bitmain did was prune the merkle tree of transactions to find a collision. This way doesn't state what it does, only that a different way is to "is to calculate many merkle roots at random and filter them based on their last 4 bytes until sufficiently many are found that collide in their last 4 bytes." and also "Another, more efficient way to produce colliding block headers is by using bits inside Chunk 1 but outside the merkle root that are free for the miner to choose. This does not require finding any merkle root collisions. Instead, one merkle root is chosen and fixed. The free bits are then updated in a loop and the respective Mid states are computed from Chunk 1. Each Mid state obtained in this way gives a new colliding work item, so that this method is extremely efficient."
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March 08, 2018, 02:06:24 PM
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Is this new version of overt ASICboost different? There are hints that the Dragonmint miners will only run at 1/4 speed on non-asicboost pools. That sort of doesn't line up with how we all thought ASICboost worked.
If that's what Dragonmint said, then they've screwed up the design of the miner, or it's vapourware.

AsicBoost is simply being able to hash an extra hash with some of the work of another hash.
It's not a 4 times advantage, more like 10-20% gain.

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March 08, 2018, 02:48:31 PM
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I keep seeing signs of good luck (even though I'm not superstitious), so I'm thinking that today would be a good day to start ...

BTClock Friday.

Anybody with me?


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March 08, 2018, 02:54:49 PM
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Sorry all, I've deleted all the posts about someone getting people to fund buying miners.
Firstly, I've no idea who the person is, and secondly it's a brand new account asking for people to send them money.
Both of those mean the discussion will be not be held here.

That was me Kano.  Apologies if it was out of line.  I was hoping to find some way to harness the collective buying power of the pool to purchase 821s wholesale from Canaan.  It seemed like a good idea at the time, but I recognize the inherent risk of the proposition.  My hope was that I could keep the process transparent enough, including providing a sufficient amount of my personal information, so that all involved would be comfortable with the arrangement.  I loved the idea of pushing 66x 821s to the pool in the next 30-45 days, at a reasonable up front cost, but again I completely understand the hesitation on your side.  No harm, no foul?  Happy hashing everyone.
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March 08, 2018, 03:18:35 PM
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Sorry all, I've deleted all the posts about someone getting people to fund buying miners.
Firstly, I've no idea who the person is, and secondly it's a brand new account asking for people to send them money.
Both of those mean the discussion will be not be held here.

That was me Kano.  Apologies if it was out of line.  I was hoping to find some way to harness the collective buying power of the pool to purchase 821s wholesale from Canaan.  It seemed like a good idea at the time, but I recognize the inherent risk of the proposition.  My hope was that I could keep the process transparent enough, including providing a sufficient amount of my personal information, so that all involved would be comfortable with the arrangement.  I loved the idea of pushing 66x 821s to the pool in the next 30-45 days, at a reasonable up front cost, but again I completely understand the hesitation on your side.  No harm, no foul?  Happy hashing everyone.

again as i believe someone else said if kano was to lead the charge it might be possible but not likly otherwise
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March 08, 2018, 04:13:17 PM
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I would like to get 3 or 4 of the avalon 841's. Who is the authorized distributor who sells them in the us?
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March 08, 2018, 04:44:19 PM
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I would like to get 3 or 4 of the avalon 841's. Who is the authorized distributor who sells them in the us?

https://canaan.io/official-distributors/
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Kano- do you think you'd make the stratum changes on this pool to support the new overt ASICBOOST?
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March 08, 2018, 04:58:54 PM
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I keep seeing signs of good luck (even though I'm not superstitious), so I'm thinking that today would be a good day to start ...

BTClock Friday.

Anybody with me?


MINE ON!!!

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March 08, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
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I would like to get 3 or 4 of the avalon 841's. Who is the authorized distributor who sells them in the us?

they are not the US but www.cryptouniverse.at may be an option too as they ship to the US, I believe rifleman74 picked up his 821s there and may have good things to say
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March 08, 2018, 06:53:52 PM
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I would like to get 3 or 4 of the avalon 841's. Who is the authorized distributor who sells them in the us?

they are not the US but www.cryptouniverse.at may be an option too as they ship to the US, I believe rifleman74 picked up his 821s there and may have good things to say

I did pick them up from there, but you can save on shipping/customs if you order from the USA.   The issues I had with the order were out of CU's hands as it was a GLS/FedEx issue.
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March 08, 2018, 07:20:09 PM
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Guys, maybe this is a stupid question but, why the hype with the Avalons 821?

Avalon 821 is about $263 per TH/s with no PSU and without shipping ($2900 per A821, no PSU, no shipping)

I just got 4 S9 including PSU and shipping and paid about $192 per TH/s ($2600 per S9+PSU including shipping)

Is just because we hate antpoo and the Canaan hardware is more reliable or I'm missing something?  Huh
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