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[kano]

Strange thing i dont understand. Maybe someone can explain...

i put my miners at Kano for about a week, and pulled them temporary to an other pool to generate some coins.
Naturally, my hash graph slowly decreases.
By the time first block January hits, i get paid for 166Th
Next block: 153 and then 152Th
I added all my miners again, and my graph is 130-ish.

Since i added my 235Th, my graph is still declining for the past 2 days?
Yesterday was 118 average, now it is 102??? With 2 days miners running already?

Anyone care to explain?

Look at the Shift Graph.

Your 5Nd is simply a (green) tank.
The amount going out of the tank (on the left) must be less than the amount going into the tank (on the right)
for the average line to go up.

If they are the same, the 5Nd line will stay the same.

If input hash rate on the right is less than the amount going out the left, then the average line will go down, but the rate it goes down depends on the difference.

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[rifleman74]

Strange thing i dont understand. Maybe someone can explain...

i put my miners at Kano for about a week, and pulled them temporary to an other pool to generate some coins.
Naturally, my hash graph slowly decreases.
By the time first block January hits, i get paid for 166Th
Next block: 153 and then 152Th
I added all my miners again, and my graph is 130-ish.

Since i added my 235Th, my graph is still declining for the past 2 days?
Yesterday was 118 average, now it is 102??? With 2 days miners running already?

Anyone care to explain?

Yes, statistics are over your head.

[Rabinovitch]

It looks that I have attracted a miner with 2 PH to this pool. I could share a screenshot of my PMs with this person if you could understand Russian. ))

[Biffa]

It looks that I have attracted a miner with 2 PH to this pool. I could share a screenshot of my PMs with this person if you could understand Russian. ))

Nice work Rabinovitch!

[Artemis3]

It looks that I have attracted a miner with 2 PH to this pool. I could share a screenshot of my PMs with this person if you could understand Russian. ))

I wonder what is the current electricity price in Siberia and how feasible it is for foreigners to invest in mining there. I recall reading some news about a special incentive from the government, Do you know if it is true?

[kano]

Upcoming pool restart at 04:00 UTC
There will be a pool wide failover-failback at 04:00 (in about 2 hours)
Your miners will failover then connect straight back - but may take 2-5 mins to decide to continue mining on the pool if you have failover to other pools.
Just a minor update to the pool code to add in some useful messages about miner share errors that occur rarely, but to be sure the cause is as expected.
Mine On!

Update done and hash rate is back where it was before the update.
Mine On!

[Experimenter]

I wonder what is the current electricity price in Siberia and how feasible it is for foreigners to invest in mining there. I recall reading some news about a special incentive from the government, Do you know if it is true?

There are certain regions with a very cheap (official) electricity price. But you need to physically be there, or at least have a trusted local person in order to even think about an investment. Otherwise, the risks are too high...

[DPoS2]

It would be nice if the "big guys" understood this and stayed put, instead of foolishly losing money "grasshopping" pools or "gambling" luck...

And your site clearly demonstrates here they would earn more in the long run.

When a pool gets too low in hashrate then that is the worst gambling since the % difference per block is large.  (4/5 vs 5/5 is 20%.  99/100 vs 100/100 is 1%)

It's like a regular guy trying his luck at the high stakes table in a casino.  He can't ride the ups and downs of chance and can easily bottom out. (in miner terms, that's being short on your monthly electric bill instead of having the variance to work itself out during the month)


Last year the same thing started to happen here and Kano went out and paid big pool operators to avoid being in quicksand.  Seems it's back to that again.  Unless you are able to extend your timelines to years instead of weeks to even things out.  If you go too far then the reward halving will draw the line and then future luck ain't the same reward so you can only correct till that moment.

[Artemis3]

It would be nice if the "big guys" understood this and stayed put, instead of foolishly losing money "grasshopping" pools or "gambling" luck...

When a pool gets too low in hashrate then that is the worst gambling since the % difference per block is large.  (4/5 vs 5/5 is 20%.  99/100 vs 100/100 is 1%)

Last year the same thing started to happen here and Kano went out and paid big pool operators to avoid being in quicksand.  Seems it's back to that again.  Unless you are able to extend your timelines to years instead of weeks to even things out.  If you go too far then the reward halving will draw the line and then future luck ain't the same reward so you can only correct till that moment.

When did this happened last year? Kano paying pool operators?

[rifleman74]

It would be nice if the "big guys" understood this and stayed put, instead of foolishly losing money "grasshopping" pools or "gambling" luck...

When a pool gets too low in hashrate then that is the worst gambling since the % difference per block is large.  (4/5 vs 5/5 is 20%.  99/100 vs 100/100 is 1%)

Last year the same thing started to happen here and Kano went out and paid big pool operators to avoid being in quicksand.  Seems it's back to that again.  Unless you are able to extend your timelines to years instead of weeks to even things out.  If you go too far then the reward halving will draw the line and then future luck ain't the same reward so you can only correct till that moment.

When did this happened last year? Kano paying pool operators?

He didn't, DPoS2 is severely misinformed.

[kano]

I've never paid any pool operator for any mining on the pool. Ever.
I've no idea why anyone would make such a false claim.

Except for one occasion, all mining on the pool has had the same reward for all miners except for bonuses given out, that I've stated.

I paid one sizeable miner PPS for Feb 2017 (sizeable risk that came out of my pocket) to get the size of the pool back up.
That worked fine as you can see in that table, the pool grew after that.

[os2sam]

I've never paid any pool operator for any mining on the pool. Ever.
I've no idea why anyone would make such a false claim.

Except for one occasion, all mining on the pool has had the same reward for all miners except for bonuses given out, that I've stated.

I paid one sizeable miner PPS for Feb 2017 (sizeable risk that came out of my pocket) to get the size of the pool back up.
That worked fine as you can see in that table, the pool grew after that.

Isn't he talking about 3.9 of 10 BTC giveaway?  Of course that's different than paying farms but some probably see it that way regardless.

[kano]

I've never paid any pool operator for any mining on the pool. Ever.
I've no idea why anyone would make such a false claim.

Except for one occasion, all mining on the pool has had the same reward for all miners except for bonuses given out, that I've stated.

I paid one sizeable miner PPS for Feb 2017 (sizeable risk that came out of my pocket) to get the size of the pool back up.
That worked fine as you can see in that table, the pool grew after that.

Isn't he talking about 3.9 of 10 BTC giveaway?  Of course that's different than paying farms but some probably see it that way regardless.

The details are all there in the first post.

... and I don't see that having anything to do with pool operators, and since EVERYONE knows what a pool operator is, it has nothing to do with what he said.

Highlight added to my post

Those bonuses given out have been random for 2 reasons:
1) Block finder bonuses are random - their aim, as has been stated MANY times, is to attract large miners - end of story.
2) Other random bonuses I've given out have been to a few smaller miners that did find blocks also.
... blocks are random ...

[chuckyphresh]

Hi, I had a power outage a week ago and now three of my antminer s9s are not connecting to the pool. They fire on and get an ip address from my switch just fine. I've tried changing out ethernet cords and doing a hard reset. Any other suggestions? Maybe firmware update?

Thanks in advance.

Worker names: TheOffice

[NotFuzzyWarm]

Hi, I had a power outage a week ago and now three of my antminer s9s are not connecting to the pool. They fire on and get an ip address from my switch just fine. I've tried changing out ethernet cords and doing a hard reset. Any other suggestions? Maybe firmware update?
Thanks in advance.
Worker names: TheOffice

A better place to post this is the Mining Support area where there may already be an answer to your problem. Can they connect to a different pool? You should also include a screen shot of the miner status page to show us condition of the hash boards... While possible that a re-flash of the firmware might be needed because BM uses the cheapest controllers they can get and is known for having issues with corrupt flash memory, generally updates should be done only if there is a valid reason to do it (eg getting LPM).

edit: fixed link to mining support

[chuckyphresh]

Hi, I had a power outage a week ago and now three of my antminer s9s are not connecting to the pool. They fire on and get an ip address from my switch just fine. I've tried changing out ethernet cords and doing a hard reset. Any other suggestions? Maybe firmware update?
Thanks in advance.
Worker names: TheOffice

A better place to post this is the Miner Support area where there may already be an answer to your problem. Can they connect to a different pool? You should also include a screen shot of the miner status page to show us condition of the hash boards... While possible that a re-flash of the firmware might be needed because BM uses the cheapest controllers they can get and is known for having issues with corrupt flash memory, generally updates should be done only if there is a valid reason to do it (eg getting LPM).

Thanks NotFuzzyWarm. Sorry for posting in wrong area. I cannot connect to another pool and the status page is empty. Will try to repost this to Miner Support threads.  

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[MoparMiningLLC]

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you may definitely want to upgrade to a new firmware and is that a custom firmware? I dont see that version on Bitmains site. I also have not seen where the hostname is as yours is.

maybe compare the screen to one of the miners that is working? see if all the fields are the same.

here is what mine shows (i am not running the latest version of LPM - the one I have seems to lower power consumption yet leave the hashrate alone. the newest one has been reported at lowering both power consumption and hash rate)

https://ibb.co/9sqsZzC

[zachj00]

It says on the payment page the payments below .0001 btc are not sent out yet. I figured it would add up and I would get a payment. Is that not how it works?

Not until the account code is complete ... some time this year ...

FYI it's now 2018 UTC so if the code change worked properly, the next block will have a 0.9% fee again like they've had since the pool started until 19-Nov-2017

Did anybody else ever get their built up dust payments?

[clgrissom3]

It says on the payment page the payments below .0001 btc are not sent out yet. I figured it would add up and I would get a payment. Is that not how it works?

Not until the account code is complete ... some time this year ...

FYI it's now 2018 UTC so if the code change worked properly, the next block will have a 0.9% fee again like they've had since the pool started until 19-Nov-2017

Did anybody else ever get their built up dust payments?

No one has yet.

[Pyrojason]

Looks like I missed out on some firey math talks with angry questions and lack of reason on one side and logical answers on the better side.