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Author Topic: KanoPool since 2014 🐈 - PPLNS and Solo 0.5% fee - Worldwide - 2435 blocks  (Read 5350115 times)
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March 21, 2021, 01:35:25 PM
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How long ago was the last block mined by kano?
See the Pool->Blocks page: 2020‑07‑26 14:58:56 UTC
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March 21, 2021, 04:20:25 PM
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Or they could just look at the pool home page. There it is, posted top center of the page...
Maybe that is too difficult or complicated for them to figure out?  Huh

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March 23, 2021, 12:42:58 PM
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Or they could just look at the pool home page. There it is, posted top center of the page...
Maybe that is too difficult or complicated for them to figure out?  Huh
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Nope. Just Not Fuzzy & Warm  Cheesy

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March 27, 2021, 11:38:05 AM
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Hello I am new around here and I would like to know if there are any manuals for the pool, tells me to set a payment address in my account. I'm going to set up and where the BTC account should go, I have my worker name on and I don't know how to change it. Thank you
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March 27, 2021, 11:59:50 AM
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Hello I am new around here and I would like to know if there are any manuals for the pool, tells me to set a payment address in my account. I'm going to set up and where the BTC account should go, I have my worker name on and I don't know how to change it. Thank you
You enter a BTC address into the Account->Settings page where it asks for a BTC address.

There's lots of Help pages on the web site on the right menu.
If you've read that and still have questions, visit discord as per the link on the web site home page, and ask away.

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March 30, 2021, 01:35:27 PM
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Mainly just posting to lose the Spanish subject line as seen on Index page Tongue

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March 30, 2021, 01:37:43 PM
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Mainly just posting to lose the Spanish subject line as seen on Index page Tongue

Is Policing Subject Lines a good paying job?  Smiley

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
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March 30, 2021, 01:41:16 PM
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Nope. It's just a minor annoyance thass easily fixed.

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April 12, 2021, 02:43:12 AM
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Hi, Please help me with the math here...

so as of today 4/11/2021 assuming avg 100% difficulty, and assuming today's total bitcoin hashrate, and assume our pool is running at 8PHs/sec... how many blocks should we find over a year? ( and yes i realize it's all a sliding math thing so it technically changes every day).

But based on rough math what does that number look like currently?

2 ?  maybe 3 ?

Curious to see if I'm even close.

Also welcome to all new miners or congrats to whoever added to their farm!

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April 12, 2021, 03:14:38 AM
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Hi, Please help me with the math here...

so as of today 4/11/2021 assuming avg 100% difficulty, and assuming today's total bitcoin hashrate, and assume our pool is running at 8PHs/sec... how many blocks should we find over a year? ( and yes i realize it's all a sliding math thing so it technically changes every day).

But based on rough math what does that number look like currently?

2 ?  maybe 3 ?

Curious to see if I'm even close.

Also welcome to all new miners or congrats to whoever added to their farm!
Easiest way to check this at any time, is the web link - I wrote MANY years ago and update on occasion:
http://tradebtc.net/bitcalc.php
... and just press enter.

It fills in the pool hash rate with the current KanoPool hash rate when you first visit.

The lines of interest (at the moment) are:
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Pool PH/s: 8.866 PH/s
Pool Average Blocks per Day: 0.0077 blocks

So 1/0.0077 = 129.87 means: we have a 1 in 129.87 chance of finding a block each day at the current Bitcoin network difficulty.

Now the mistake that most people fall into is that you can't actually say that we'd expect one block every 129.87 days
Since difficulty changes every 2 weeks, it's not linear at all.

If you extend that "1 in 129.87 chance" to say "oh that's 2.81 blocks a year", it's not actually correct.
Though it may give you some idea about how often we might find a block, it's definitely not an accurate representation of the expected number of blocks.

A simple example to explain this:
Say you want to roll a 6 on a dice.
You're allowed to roll it 2 times today, then once every day after today.
What is the expected number of days to roll a 6?
The correct answer is 5 days 2+1+1+1+1 = 6
But if you take today's value of '2' rolls a day and use that to calculate it - you get, incorrectly, 3 days (since 2x3 = 6)

This dice example is exactly the same as incorrectly saying "today's difficulty for the next 365 days means 2.81 blocks a year."
The problem of course is that we don't know what the difficultly will be in 2 weeks.
However, we do know that for the next 5-6 months it will most likely go up since most miner pre-orders are around 5-6 months.

Thus if the pool stayed at 8.866 PH/s for the next year, then we expect less than 2.81 blocks.

Lastly, and of most importance, is the word 'expect'
As explained on the Help->Luck page on the web site, it's not what we will get, it's what we 'mathematically' would expect to get.
We may get 0, 1, 5, or even 10.
But we expect, on average, to get 1 block for each 100% of difficulty hashes the pool does.
(and also all the other small pools incorrectly show the % a lot lower than it really is)

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April 15, 2021, 06:03:26 PM
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Can someone tell a beginner what the minimum hash rate to receive a reward is on KanoPool?

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April 15, 2021, 06:38:56 PM
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Can someone tell a beginner what the minimum hash rate to receive a reward is on KanoPool?

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Its around 500Ghs to be eligible for payout.

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April 15, 2021, 09:58:56 PM
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Quote from discord Smiley
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Well to earn a reward per block, the pool % of dust / 6.25
(dust being 10,000 sat or 0.0001)
So anyway it depends on the pool size when we find the block
Of course, as I've proven recently Smiley - your below dust rewards do eventually get paid out - but at the earliest when they accumulate to more than dust, then the block we find after that
but anyway lets say the pool hash rate was 10PH when we find a block, then the dust level reward would be 10PH * (dust / 6.25) = 160GH/s
(10,000,000 GH/s * (0.0001 / 6.25))

Of course if the pool hash rate is lower than 10PH/s when we find a block, then a lower miner hash rate would earn above dust.
And of course if it's higher, then a higher miner hash rate would earn above dust.

The new payout code, that I used to pay the old dust, handles this for block payouts also.
It adds up your owed dust and adds that to the new block reward - if that total is more than dust then it will be sent.

Edit: and of course you can set a higher payout limit.

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April 22, 2021, 03:24:50 AM
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I can't seem to get into the discord.

It always shows your Discord server as down to a temporary outage... any idea?

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April 22, 2021, 03:30:42 AM
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I can't seem to get into the discord.

It always shows your Discord server as down to a temporary outage... any idea?
Must be your connection to discord?
It's up and running with plenty of people connected as usual.
I did see your name appear, but left again shortly after that.

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April 22, 2021, 05:24:44 PM
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Thanks for the dust Kano. Now I'll have some mining income for my "Bitcoin Mining and Trading" business in 2021 instead of just capital gains. Maybe the IRS will send me fewer love letters. Smiley

Hot time, summer in the city, back of my mine getting hot & gritty!!!
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April 24, 2021, 10:23:26 PM
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S1, S2 & S3 firmware still here:
https://bitbucket.org/TheKano/cgminer-binaries/src/master/

No new donations required.
There's no S5.

Dust was sent to that account in Feb/March Smiley

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April 24, 2021, 10:46:23 PM
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S1, S2 & S3 firmware still here:
https://bitbucket.org/TheKano/cgminer-binaries/src/master/

No new donations required.
There's no S5.

Dust was sent to that account in Feb/March Smiley

OK

thank you!

Another question: I'm not always mined to the account directly. I used instead BTC Adresses to mine (don't know with one anymore)....   Are there any other dust payments in plan for the next time?

Greetings


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Thanks that you are the meaning that no additional donations required. But the duty is written to philipma using and escrwow adress for ...   so, in my world / word i still have an 0.01 BTC Duty to a adress manageg by philipma

Thanks at all Smiley
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April 24, 2021, 10:51:34 PM
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If you mined to an address and an account with the same address - they were sent the total dust balance of the two.
If you mined to an address on it's own that wasn't also on an account, and the balance was above dust, it was sent also.

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April 30, 2021, 02:11:14 AM
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I was close-ish...lol.  I was figuring it correctly, that was just a rough off the cuff number I came up with, based on comparison time frames and hash rates.

At least you showed me my method was sound as long as a person understands the sliding scales involved. Like you implied, it's more of a range that one can predict with any degree of confidence.

Thank you Kano, I'm honored you answered personally!

As a network engineer I salute you for your SLA numbers, especially uptime, and performance.

I hope we hit one before it gets too warm in Western New York.

I usually have to quit mining around end of May or risk frying some boards.

Best, Mark
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