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September 24, 2014, 04:40:51 AM
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September 24, 2014, 04:51:55 AM
Last edit: September 24, 2014, 05:06:15 AM by NewLiberty
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Still frozen on Bittrex. This mean it's dead? Huh

Monero cant be traded on bittrex anymore?  Huh

I suspect that a bunch of the exchanges are halting deposits and withdrawals with the block chain for hours or a day, to be safer than safe, but I suspect you can fully trade XMR in and out of any other coins, just not put them on the block chain.

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September 24, 2014, 04:56:24 AM
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Still frozen on Bittrex. This mean it's dead? Huh

Monero cant be traded on bittrex anymore?  Huh

working fine here

It is tradeable on Mintpal and Poloniex
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September 24, 2014, 05:19:07 AM
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Still frozen on Bittrex. This mean it's dead? Huh

Monero cant be traded on bittrex anymore?  Huh
It was posted a few pages back the devs got the exchanges to halt deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours (doesn't affect trading of coins already on exchanges). That's a smart move under the threat of a time warp attack, so it just means the devs are mitigating the threat not that the threat has been confirmed as real.

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September 24, 2014, 05:21:13 AM
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Good blog post with recap of recent XMR "attack": http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/
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September 24, 2014, 05:29:17 AM
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Still frozen on Bittrex. This mean it's dead? Huh

Monero cant be traded on bittrex anymore?  Huh
It was posted a few pages back the devs got the exchanges to halt deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours (doesn't affect trading of coins already on exchanges). That's a smart move under the threat of a time warp attack, so it just means the devs are mitigating the threat not that the threat has been confirmed as real.

Sounds like Cyprus with frozen bank accounts all over again.  One thing if there was a fatal flaw that required time to fix, but freezing transactions due to a threat?  Is XMR really this fragile?
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September 24, 2014, 05:46:27 AM
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Is it fixable or is itnot really annonymous?
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September 24, 2014, 06:05:47 AM
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Is it possible that the BTC price jump earlier today was a fewMonero holders (or just one?) dumping XMR for BTC, for fear of the announced attack?

mmmm....

Why dumping XMR to buy USD for buying thousands of BTC on a BTC/USD exechange (or more than one)?

Is it feaseable? I don' think so. Way to much money involved, maybe more than the entire monero market cap.

Does it make sense?

No, it doesn't make sense to me. Why going through USD? Just sell XMR and buy bitcoins.

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September 24, 2014, 06:12:09 AM
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Is it possible that the BTC price jump earlier today was a fewMonero holders (or just one?) dumping XMR for BTC, for fear of the announced attack?

The reason of the price jump was the news of PayPal's Bitcoin integration
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September 24, 2014, 06:16:37 AM
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Good blog post with recap of recent XMR "attack": http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

Thanks for the link. Very informative and well conceived  events timeline.

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September 24, 2014, 06:20:55 AM
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Still frozen on Bittrex. This mean it's dead? Huh

Monero cant be traded on bittrex anymore?  Huh
It was posted a few pages back the devs got the exchanges to halt deposits/withdrawals for 24 hours (doesn't affect trading of coins already on exchanges). That's a smart move under the threat of a time warp attack, so it just means the devs are mitigating the threat not that the threat has been confirmed as real.

Sounds like Cyprus with frozen bank accounts all over again.  One thing if there was a fatal flaw that required time to fix, but freezing transactions due to a threat?  Is XMR really this fragile?

Apparently not.

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September 24, 2014, 06:21:11 AM
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Is it possible that the BTC price jump earlier today was a fewMonero holders (or just one?) dumping XMR for BTC, for fear of the announced attack?

The reason of the price jump was the news of PayPal's Bitcoin integration

 yeah this fact slipped past most people.  Bitcoin went up $50 a day... kind of echos the mini-pump we saw with the Newegg announcement but it then went back down.

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September 24, 2014, 06:28:15 AM
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What the hell is this ??

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September 24, 2014, 06:29:27 AM
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Good blog post with recap of recent XMR "attack": http://bullbearanalytics.com/2014/09/23/whats-going-monero/

Thanks for the link. Very informative and well conceived  events timeline.

It was a strong contribution, because it captured the essential events succinctly and dispassionately.  It makes accessible to the uninvolved the gestalt of living through the experience in real-time.
That tends to indicate the value of their reporting service, to those who have more money than time.  (Among whom I should count myself.)

It might have mentioned that BitcoinEXpress threatened in the trollbox, but that the verification of identity post was deleted, and that other aliases were used in the trollbox in the manner and style of BCX to express vague threats to the exchange, creating a generalized plausible deniability of the link between the trollbox and BCT identities (and hence providing deniability to the link between BCT's "BCX" and poloniex's "BCX".
It might have mentioned that other mitigation efforts were ongoing, to defuse the risk of any hypothetical pending attack.  It might have mentioned the (textual evidence) that BCX was a known person, a U.S. resident, and that the actual act threatened would be a federal crime in the U.S.  I found these aspects to be important elements of the real-life drama.

Still, the actual content was well done, as far as it went.



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September 24, 2014, 06:29:55 AM
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So how did the attack go? I've been away and am not currently up to date. Are my bbr and xmr worthless yet?
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September 24, 2014, 06:36:20 AM
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What the hell is this ??



http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/#markets
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BC-XMR

Somebody used 17,000 black coin ($1000) to buy some monero (about 0.06 total) at a stupid high price on bittrex.

You may notice how easily these 'market capitalization' figures can be manipulated.

I sincerely hope that whoever bought that was buying their own sell order.

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September 24, 2014, 07:06:16 AM
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In 30 minutes, as a precaution against the attack threat, XMR deposits and withdrawals will be frozen for 24 hours and all funds put in cold storage.

Posted by busoni@poloniex at 2014-09-23 20:31:18
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September 24, 2014, 07:07:04 AM
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What the hell is this ??



http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/monero/#markets
https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BC-XMR

Somebody used 17,000 black coin ($1000) to buy some monero (about 0.06 total) at a stupid high price on bittrex.

You may notice how easily these 'market capitalization' figures can be manipulated.

I sincerely hope that whoever bought that was buying their own sell order.

The sell order was 25k BC there. This is an illiquid market.
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September 24, 2014, 07:45:09 AM
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Yawn.. this isn't nearly as entertaining as I thought it would be.

Is Monero being attacked or not? If someone is performing a TW attack is there any way to tell?

From my experience with time warps attacks it takes a couple of days before the symptoms start to occur, but when they do....the chaos is sweet.


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Will the devs keep the exchanges locked for days?

If you were successful and if you know the problem can be fixed, so presumably you would buy XMR cheap and ride it back up to recoup your expenses?

I am contemplating that you really didn't want the hassle and risk of this but you were pushed into it as your reputation was slandered?
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September 24, 2014, 07:50:08 AM
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