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September 19, 2014, 06:46:16 PM
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Now Bitcoin Core Developer gmaxwell has confirmed that *BCX's entire Exploit story is a made up bullshit lie*:

2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented.
This is in direct contradiction to your original claim that it cannot be fixed without giving up on anonymity. I call bullshit.

for all those that still respected BCX for some reason (totally incomprehensible) have now all the reasons in the world to realize that he's just Mr. Fat Mouth without anything behind his claims whatsoever.

What a fucking fail, BCX. You fail on all levels, the only thing you might have succeeded in is the crash you initiated to buy in Monero as low as possible. Congratulations for being the #1 fail in the crypto world, BCX. Thanks for entertaining us by being an utter asshat.
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September 19, 2014, 06:48:58 PM
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god u again.  I should be a mod in this place

first he didn't "confirm" anything except that in his opinion bxc didn't use proper logic in explaining it.  anonymint/facists guy did a better job of explaining it.
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September 19, 2014, 07:11:33 PM
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so where is the contradiction? I dont see it

where is the 'debunk'? I dont see it

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September 19, 2014, 09:32:44 PM
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so where is the contradiction? I dont see it

where is the 'debunk'? I dont see it

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2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented.
This is in direct contradiction to your original claim that it cannot be fixed without giving up on anonymity. I call bullshit.

where is the contradiction ? I cant see it.

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If it was an implementation issue then the maths / cryptography would be fine, and all we'd have to do to patch the exploit is fix the implementation so it correctly reflects the cryptography in the whitepaper. This would not require us to give up anonymity, since we would still meet the anonymity-set as dictated by the whitepaper.

If, instead, the problem is in the cryptography, then the only way to fix it would be to throw out the incorrect maths / cryptography, "giving up" some or all of the anonymity.

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September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 AM
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so where is the contradiction? I dont see it

where is the 'debunk'? I dont see it

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Here:

Quote from: BitcoinEXpress
* I have found very specific exploits in CN that have not been fixed that would be successful on XMR. [...] One [exploit] is a coin killer.  [...] To fix this, anonymity will need to be sacrificed.

2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented.

These 2 comments stand in complete contradiction to each other.  Since the second comment was made in BCX's only real follow up, his claims certainly look like FUD!  Not even consistent.

So, without further proof, BitcoinEXpress's claims should be considered FUD and bullshit.

and so:
This is in direct contradiction to your original claim that it cannot be fixed without giving up on anonymity. I call bullshit.
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September 20, 2014, 03:05:16 AM
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Quote from: BitcoinEXpress
* I have found very specific exploits in CN that have not been fixed that would be successful on XMR. [...] One [exploit] is a coin killer.  [...] To fix this, anonymity will need to be sacrificed.

2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented.

These 2 comments stand in complete contradiction to each other.

No inconsistency.

Novices like you don't seem to understand that anonymity isn't encryption. And the encryption part of CN which hides the one-time destination key doesn't have to be broken for the anonymity to be broken.

Edit: note I am not saying it is possible, because I haven't proven it yet.
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September 20, 2014, 03:15:53 AM
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Quote from: BitcoinEXpress
* I have found very specific exploits in CN that have not been fixed that would be successful on XMR. [...] One [exploit] is a coin killer.  [...] To fix this, anonymity will need to be sacrificed.

2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented.

These 2 comments stand in complete contradiction to each other.

No inconsistency.

Yeah there is.

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Novices like you don't seem to understand that anonymity isn't encryption. And the encryption part of CN which hides the one-time destination key doesn't have to be broken for the anonymity to be broken.

But he didn't say that. He said "how it is implemented" where the word "it" in that sentence refers to encryption.

Key exchange isn't even really encryption -- that is a stretch. But even if we allow that it is, "how it is implemented" means a fixable flaw, because key exchange is well understood and easily fixable. It can't be the case that "anonymity will need to be sacrificed" if that is where the "break down" occurs.

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September 20, 2014, 04:38:34 AM
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Think I'm going to have to check out that Boolberry coin despite the weird name.  The Monero people just seem far too fanatical and delusional.

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September 20, 2014, 01:43:45 PM
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Think I'm going to have to check out that Boolberry coin despite the weird name.  The Monero people just seem far too fanatical and delusional.

I don't think so. Those fanatics might be trolls.
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September 20, 2014, 03:05:59 PM
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Think I'm going to have to check out that Boolberry coin despite the weird name.  The Monero people just seem far too fanatical and delusional.

I don't think so. Those fanatics might be trolls.

And this Viper1? You think its just possible he might not be 100% sincere? Is it true ?

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September 20, 2014, 07:20:42 PM
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Think I'm going to have to check out that Boolberry coin despite the weird name.  The Monero people just seem far too fanatical and delusional.

I don't think so. Those fanatics might be trolls.

And this Viper1? You think its just possible he might not be 100% sincere? Is it true?

Viper1 is just a troll he is fuding in all different forums. Thats possible just his clone account.

Fudding?  LOL.  Oh yeah.  My post history sure does bear that out.  You guys spend way too much time on this forum when you automatically assume someone if fudding or a troll just because you don't like what they might have to say.

And yeah, I'm pretty serious although I'm holding off on any CN coins at this point.  There are a few coins I avoid purely because of the community and Monero is one of them.  When you have a community with fanatics in them, given human nature, it's just a matter of time until they implode.  I've been around long enough now to see how they start to turn on each other and end up tearing a coin down.

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September 20, 2014, 07:30:14 PM
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Think I'm going to have to check out that Boolberry coin despite the weird name.  The Monero people just seem far too fanatical and delusional.


Boolberries are extremely addictive! +1 to checking it out
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September 20, 2014, 08:54:27 PM
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Isn't Moneroman88 one of darkota's other accounts?

Sounds like him.

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September 20, 2014, 09:16:20 PM
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Think I'm going to have to check out that Boolberry coin despite the weird name.  The Monero people just seem far too fanatical and delusional.

I don't think so. Those fanatics might be trolls.

And this Viper1? You think its just possible he might not be 100% sincere? Is it true?

Viper1 is just a troll he is fuding in all different forums. Thats possible just his clone account.

Fudding?  LOL.  Oh yeah.  My post history sure does bear that out.  You guys spend way too much time on this forum when you automatically assume someone if fudding or a troll just because you don't like what they might have to say.

And yeah, I'm pretty serious although I'm holding off on any CN coins at this point.  There are a few coins I avoid purely because of the community and Monero is one of them.  When you have a community with fanatics in them, given human nature, it's just a matter of time until they implode.  I've been around long enough now to see how they start to turn on each other and end up tearing a coin down.

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September 20, 2014, 10:35:34 PM
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Reminder people...Be sure to educate yourselves before believing what BCX says:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=94912.msg1050122#msg1050122
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96174.0

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September 20, 2014, 10:40:56 PM
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Now Bitcoin Core Developer gmaxwell has confirmed that *BCX's entire Exploit story is a made up bullshit lie*:

2) There is no break down in the encryption but in how it is implemented.
This is in direct contradiction to your original claim that it cannot be fixed without giving up on anonymity. I call bullshit.

for all those that still respected BCX for some reason (totally incomprehensible) have now all the reasons in the world to realize that he's just Mr. Fat Mouth without anything behind his claims whatsoever.

What a fucking fail, BCX. You fail on all levels, the only thing you might have succeeded in is the crash you initiated to buy in Monero as low as possible. Congratulations for being the #1 fail in the crypto world, BCX. Thanks for entertaining us by being an utter asshat.

Dude! How many threads are you going to create?! Holy shit. Get some help.
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