[ANN][SEED] SeedCoin | New Road Map

[bitkokos]

Come on! this isn't even funny anymore.
people had put their money on this and have been staking for measly 0.00001 while others get a 269% growth on thier coins and obviousy dumping them because they now have more coins then the others.
this isn't fair and very dissapointing.

if this was the first issue than maybe, maybe, it would have been understandable but come-on man this is the fourth wallet version you released in 48 hrs.

why oh why do i make the same mistakes and trust incompetent devs!!!???

best of luck with your coin. i fucking lost 80% on this shit.

Just have a look at what I said 5 days ago. You could have lost a lot less if you were reading.
Someone rushed to call me troll for saying this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=795954.msg9103702#msg9103702

Go troll somewhere else. Some are in profits, some are not. Just the way this coin works - you really have to plan your next moves and think them through.
If you don't like the way it works move on, no one is forcing you to buy or use time on this coin.

Who planned his next moves with this coin? You or dev ?

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[cryptzo]

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

[wiser]

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

I think you're doing a good job.

[DenisZabar]

Just have a look at what I said 5 days ago. You could have lost a lot less if you were reading.
Someone rushed to call me troll for saying this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=795954.msg9103702#msg9103702

If you didnt scream the same shit for every other coin then I would agree with you....Shit didnt you just say you mined it for 5 days?  As for the coin, yeah its becoming a joke pretty quick. If it wasnt bad enough that there were huge stacks staking for days, now the guys with chunks under 1 seed are getting 1% still...

Same problem for me 1% still.

Shutting down my wallet and waiting for the problem be solved.  

[klopper]

Go troll somewhere else. Some are in profits, some are not. Just the way this coin works - you really have to plan your next moves and think them through.
If you don't like the way it works move on, no one is forcing you to buy or use time on this coin.

And yet another monument to the eternal raw idiocy we see here so often... wow...

Okay, let me lay it out for you. Barabbas=IconicExpert.

IconicExpert M.O. = FUD the coin -> But the coin cheap -> Hype the coin.

After growth IconicExpert will hype this coin.

[travis72682]

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

didnt you fix the issue of under 1 seed not staking right earlier this week? did you not test it?

[bitkokos]

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

yes but, for you to make experiments and gain valuable experience, some people lost money. And THEY should be shouting. Not I

[candlesticks]

My larger block just staked at 269%  

[wiser]

Okay, let me lay it out for you. Barabbas=IconicExpert.

IconicExpert M.O. = FUD the coin -> But the coin cheap -> Hype the coin.

After growth IconicExpert will hype this coin.

That's why he (along with a couple others) is on my ignore list...

[wiser]

My larger block just staked at 269%  

Yay!

Do larger blocks stake first, given the same number of confirms?

[furcoin]

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

yes but, for you to make experiments and gain valuable experience, some people lost money. And THEY should be shouting. Not I

If I remember correctly, it was due to the maturing of coins for staking that he fixed. If you have small coins then your coins would not mature in time to take advantage of the growth period. I think it was 24+(24/# of coins). So 1 coin would take 48 hrs to mature vs 0.1 would take 264 hrs ie, 11 days!

[cryptzo]

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

didnt you fix the issue of under 1 seed not staking right earlier this week? did you not test it?

Yeah. I fixed the issue of them not staking at all. But I missed the amount they actually staked for, since they staked so rarely in accelerated testing. Blocks are flying by, and I was more concerned that they were staking at all. I rushed myself through 3 test runs trying to make them work right without disrupting the time scale and I missed that detail.

[barabbas]

Okay, let me lay it out for you. Barabbas=IconicExpert.

IconicExpert M.O. = FUD the coin -> But the coin cheap -> Hype the coin.

After growth IconicExpert will hype this coin.

That's why he (along with a couple others) is on my ignore list...

Like I said, immense raw idoicy it all its splendor... wow...

[barabbas]

Aint it reassuring to have a dev that can "fix anything"?

Several times too... wow...

[cryptzo]

With so much iterative updates/forks I feel like this was a very "beta" project and almost feel like a new "alpha" product should be launched with free ICO coins given to those who invested previously. seedCoin2.0? lol Anywho, I still look forward to 6 more days of growth.

This is crypto, not something guaranteed.

NXT had a lot of issues with the wallet even a couple months after it launched. But it's working well now and the coin is going places, and early adopters will probably benefit handsomely.

The main dev here answers questions promptly and applies fixes in a reasonable amount of time.

I think those are good signs.

NXT is doing well because they hired James (jl777)

And I'm gaining valuable experience. It's not like I can't figure out solutions to the problems when they crop up. I can solve any problem. But it is much more difficult to anticipate a problem that hasn't happened yet when you're building on someone else's code.

Still, I wasn't as careful as I needed to be with the fixes we had earlier in the week, because every fix I make is extremely time sensitive given the nature of the coin. Once growth is past, I'll have time to test things more vigorously, and invite people to participate in beta testing on a larger network.

This was a relatively simple fix that I was actually able to test on the main network. It resulted in an orphaned block unfortunately, but it allowed me to verify that the numbers worked as expected in an extremely short period of time.

yes but, for you to make experiments and gain valuable experience, some people lost money. And THEY should be shouting. Not I

That's why I'm working as fast as I can to fix things.

Somewhat ironically, people with more than 1 coin may have actually not staked as much as they could have if this bug was fixed, since anything over the whole amount (unless they were very close to having the next highest number of coins. So 1.9 may have staked %269 fine if it was old enough) got rounded down to nothing.

Meanwhile, those of you that have been having this problem mostly have coins broken down into smaller pieces, and while some of those pieces only got 1% - you're going to make out like bandits when they start staking correctly when the fix takes effect, and the people that staked before wont be able to stake again for 24 hours.

[CryptoHobo]

Yeah, I see it. Unfortunately this is part of the same bug. When your age was calculated, it dropped the decimal. This is fixed in the new mandatory wallet algorithm that takes effect in a little over 8 hours. This affects everyone.

Unless you're at .9 or so, and you have enough age to take you over the 1 when the age gets factored in (about 3 hours past 24 hours for .9) then it just rounds the whole lot down.

ahh i see thanks for the answer
on the plus side though 4 coins for the next stake and my decimals should carry

good job! I've known it take much longer for other coins to resolve bugs like this

[cryptzo]

My larger block just staked at 269%  

Yay!

Do larger blocks stake first, given the same number of confirms?

If it's the same number of confirms, it's likely that they will all stake at the same time.

[travis72682]

Somewhat ironically, people with more than 1 coin may have actually not staked as much as they could have if this bug was fixed, since anything over the whole amount (unless they were very close to having the next highest number of coins. So 1.9 may have staked %269 fine if it was old enough) got rounded down to nothing.

Meanwhile, those of you that have been having this problem mostly have coins broken down into smaller pieces, and while some of those pieces only got 1% - you're going to make out like bandits when they start staking correctly when the fix takes effect, and the people that staked before wont be able to stake again for 24 hours.

No because ppl with numerous coins have them split up on multiple addresses and generally ppl split whole numbers, so for the most part the big boys are getting their stake.

edit: the little guys that didnt lock their wallets, or send themselves their little chunks and staked a bunch at 1% are the guys getting screwed

[wiser]

My larger block just staked at 269%  

Yay!

Do larger blocks stake first, given the same number of confirms?

If it's the same number of confirms, it's likely that they will all stake at the same time.

So then, do you count the total amount staked? Or each one separately? The reason I'm asking is that I have a chunk of .99 and one of 1.xxx, both with the same number of confirms. I think they are both up for staking within the hour, and I'm trying to figure out if I should be concerned that either one might only stake for 1 percent.

[cryptzo]

My larger block just staked at 269%  

Yay!

Do larger blocks stake first, given the same number of confirms?

If it's the same number of confirms, it's likely that they will all stake at the same time.

So then, do you count the total amount staked? Or each one separately? The reason I'm asking is that I have a chunk of .99 and one of 1.xxx, both with the same number of confirms. I think they are both up for staking within the hour, and I'm trying to figure out if I should be concerned that either one might only stake for 1 percent.

Hmm. If it's .99 then you need about 20 minutes of age on top of the 24 hours for it to stake properly. It's actually a little less than 20 minutes, but 20 minutes is safe. So as long as you calculate back the 24 hours, and then make sure you don't stake for 20 minutes after that today, you should be fine.