HONGKONG DEMO

[cryptocoiner]

Do someone believe these protests aren't organized from an outside of hon-kong?

You are welcome.

[cryptocoiner]

Do someone believe these protests aren't organized from an outside of hon-kong?

All links from U.S. most of them Virginia,colored revolution no doubt,same matrix of the same lords

What's in virginia?

[samaricanin]

Do someone believe these protests aren't organized from an outside of hon-kong?

All links from U.S. most of them Virginia,colored revolution no doubt,same matrix of the same lords

What's in virginia?

CIA 

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Update:
http://boxun.com/news/gb/taiwan/2014/10/201410212238.shtml

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Do someone believe these protests aren't organized from an outside of hon-kong?

All links from U.S. most of them Virginia,colored revolution no doubt,same matrix of the same lords

What's in virginia?

freedom always win

[dicemant]

You see education is bad too much books and you think your god 

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2014 Hongkong  umbrella  revolution  chronicle

[fsb4000]

Funny when Western agents, which are not supported by local population,  declare  the revolution.
The Chinese authorities are too kind to you....

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Funny when Western agents, which are not supported by local population,  declare  the revolution.
The Chinese authorities are too kind to you....

wrong, vice versa!!!

[msc_de]

More than 600 HongKong medical personnel have jointly signed a statement published in the press today accusing the police methods in handling the recent demonstrations

[klintay]

today dialog between students and hongkong  government

poor naive kids...

the girl is cute 

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update：
http://boxun.com/news/gb/taiwan/2014/10/201410230154.shtml

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https://twitter.com/GlobalSolidHK

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Hong Kong Students Call For Direct Talks With Beijing Officials on Democracy
2014-10-22

 Hong Kong residents protest Leung Chun-ying's comments that a full democracy would place too much power in the hands of those who earn less than U.S. $1,800 a month, Oct. 22, 2014.
Occupy Central supporters say the government's offers aren't concrete and that protests will continue.
A student leader of a mass pro-democracy movement in Hong Kong called on Wednesday for direct talks with the ruling Chinese Communist Party following a live televised debate on Tuesday in which local officials offered minor concessions but rejected protesters' demands for genuine universal suffrage in 2017 elections.

Alex Chow, leader of the influential Hong Kong Federation of Students (HKFS), told RFA that student leaders of the Occupy Central campaign, which has blocked major highways in the semi-autonomous city since Sept. 28, want to know exactly how far Beijing would let Hong Kong go.

He said the protesters have no plans to leave the occupied sites any time soon, but called for direct dialogue with Chinese officials instead, possibly with a member of China's National People's Congress (NPC) standing committee.

"I'm talking about ... allowing citizens to question them directly," Chow said. "Hong Kong officials say they can't [make concessions], but can they really not? Can this be at least on the table?"

Protesters have repeatedly called on embattled chief executive Leung Chun-ying to resign, and want an open nomination process for elections for his replacement in 2017.

An Aug. 31 ruling by Beijing said Hong Kong's five million-strong electorate will each get a vote in the poll, but that their options will be limited to two or three "patriotic" candidates approved by a nominating committee likely to be stacked with pro-China and pro-establishment members.

Leung's second-in-command Carrie Lam on Tuesday said the 2017 poll must stay within the framework laid down by the NPC standing committee that controls China's rubber-stamp parliament, which has had the final power to interpret Hong Kong's mini-constitution, the Basic Law, since the 1997 handover.

But she said the government, which ignored calls for public nominations in a July report to Beijing, would file a fresh report to Beijing and consider further changes to election procedures after 2017.

She also invited the students to take part in a "platform" for the exchange of views on further constitutional and political change, post-2017.

Students respond

But the students said Lam's offers were too vague, and pledged to continue the Occupy movement and to boycott classes.

"About whether there will be talks in the future, this is something that isn't decided," Chow told reporters on Wednesday.

"The government has to come up with some way to solve this problem, but what they are offering does not have any practical content," Chow said.

He said it was hard to see the point of a fresh report from the Hong Kong government to Beijing, as it is unlikely to affect the NPC standing committee's Aug. 31 edict.

Joshua Wong, head of the academic activism group Scholarism, said he had no intention of taking part in Lam's "platform."

"We're not even done talking about 2017 yet, so why are they thinking about a platform to discuss the post-2017 political framework?" he said.

"Who else would take part in it? What would it discuss? I think that the government needn't bother inviting us if this platform won't be discussing the 2017 political reforms," Wong said.

The students' comments came as sporadic clashes erupted once more between frustrated taxi-drivers and protesters who have barricaded themselves into a major intersection in the bustling working-class district of Mong Kok.

Police stepped in to prevent physical violence after scuffles and slanging matches broke out.

File for injunction

Meanwhile, a bus company and two transportation industry associations filed a writ with Hong Kong's High Court, in an attempt to win an injunction ordering protesters camped in hundreds of tents on Harcourt Road in Admiralty district to leave.

The Court has already granted injunctions brought by the transportation industry in Mong Kok, but it remains to be seen whether its bailiffs feel able to enforce them.

"This isn't the first time people have come to protest and if they try to demolish our barricades today, we will take measures to stop them," an Occupy protester surnamed Lee told RFA. "They are using recent court injunctions as an excuse to try to clear the barricades."

He added: "We will only accept [the injunctions] if the government agrees to public nominations."

A fellow Mong Kok protester, also surnamed Lee, said many local people claim they are suffering economic losses from the blocked roads.

"But this is a very short-sighted view," she said. "I'm not afraid, even if the government were to move in suddenly and arrest me."

"Freedom is priceless; it can't be bought with money."

Anger over comments

Dozens of protesters marched to Leung's residence, once the home of British colonial governors, on Wednesday in anger at his comments to overseas media in which he said full democracy would give too much power to those "who earn less than U.S. $1,800 a month."

Pan-democratic lawmaker and trade unionist Lee Cheuk-yan said Hong Kong's electorate will gain very little from Beijing's proposed electoral framework and that the nominating committee will likely represent the interests of the current political elite, as it always has.

"It has always been about the four main sectors," Lee said. "Everyone can see that this isn't about balanced participation."

He said Beijing had already ensured that this bias is written into Hong Kong's mini-constitution, the Basic Law, which has laid down the territory's political framework since the 1997 handover.

"Leung made this very clear; it's biased to exclude poor and low-income people. The dominant ideology of Leung, the ideology in the Basic Law, is about ensuring that the majority don't get to decide elections," he said.

He said the promise of a fresh government report to Beijing would only be meaningful if it was considered by the NPC standing committee, with a view to amending its ruling.

Taking sides

A recent opinion poll found a modest increase in popular support for Occupy Central, compared with before the campaign began.

Hundreds of thousands of people had taken to the streets in anger in early October at the police use of tear gas and pepper spray on protesters on the first day of the occupation campaign, Sept. 28.

A total of 37.8 percent of 802 respondents polled in early-to-mid October said they supported the pro-democracy movement, compared with just 31.1 percent in early September, a Chinese University of Hong Kong poll found.

"Mathematically speaking, neither side has really represented the majority," pollster Francis Lee told the South China Morning Post newspaper.

"Also it does not show that public opinion has become more polarized and extreme than before," he said.

The poll also found that 42.2 percent of respondents thought police tactics during clashes with anti-Occupy protesters were inappropriate, while 26.7 percent said police had acted appropriately.

And 53.7 percent of people said it was inappropriate of the police to have used tear gas, while just over 22 percent said it was appropriate.

Opposition to the Beijing-backed electoral reform plan polled at just over 48 percent, while some 36 percent supported it.

Party stance

Communist Party mouthpiece the People's Daily on Wednesday reported the dialogue in its overseas edition, saying Hong Kong people were hoping that the talks would end the Occupy Central movement which has "disturbed" the city.

It quoted analysts as saying that the Occupy movement had been a protest movement from the start, and had never aimed at dialogue, repeating its claim that "foreign forces" are trying to instigate a "color revolution" in Hong Kong.

Joseph Cheng, politics professor at Hong Kong's City University and leader of the Alliance for True Democracy campaign group, expressed skepticism over Lam's proposal for a fresh report to Beijing.

"Everyone is very doubtful that this additional report on popular opinion will do any good at all," Cheng said. "Everyone knows that President Xi Jinping already gets daily reports from Hong Kong."

He said expectations of the "platform" were equally low. "The government's behavior at the last round of public consultations was very disappointing, and they were very unfair," Cheng said.

"The views of the pan-democratic camp were totally neglected."

Reported by Wen Yuqing and Lin Jing for RFA's Cantonese Service, and by Yang Fan for the Mandarin Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.

[cryptocoiner]

2014 Hongkong  umbrella  revolution  chronicle

Did you getting pais for this? How does it feel to betray you own coutry?

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2014 Hongkong  umbrella  revolution  chronicle

Did you getting pais for this? How does it feel to betray you own coutry?

everyone in the world has the right to fight against dictatorship  nations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   you you sb

[Balthazar]

2014 Hongkong  umbrella  revolution  chronicle

Did you getting pais for this? How does it feel to betray you own coutry?

everyone in the world has the right to fight against dictatorship  nations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   you you sb

Hahah what a clown here.

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2014 Hongkong  umbrella  revolution  chronicle

Did you getting pais for this? How does it feel to betray you own coutry?

everyone in the world has the right to fight against dictatorship  nations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   you you sb

Hahah what a clown here.

what  a clown here

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UN Human Rights Body Backs Hong Kong Calls For Public Nominations
2014-10-23

 
The United Nations human rights body on Thursday called on the ruling Chinese Communist Party to allow the people of Hong Kong to nominate candidates for elections, as pro-democracy protesters occupied stretches of the semiautonomous city's streets for a fourth consecutive week.

A panel of 18 independent experts working for the U.N. Human Rights Committee said Beijing's insistence on vetting electoral candidates in the 2017 race for the post of Hong Kong's chief executive was in violation of international human rights treaties.

Hong Kong has signed and ratified the U.N.'s International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, passed by the General Assembly in 1966, while Beijing has signed but not ratified it.

"The need to ensure universal suffrage ... means both the right to be elected as well as the right to vote," committee chairman Konstantine Vardzelashvili told the panel in Geneva on Thursday.

"The main concerns of committee members were focused on the right to stand for elections without unreasonable restrictions," he said in comments concluding the meeting.

Hong Kong Democratic Party chairwoman and lawmaker Emily Lau welcomed the statement from the committee.

"The committee was clear that what is proposed by China is not compliant with the Covenant," Lau told Reuters. "It is not universal suffrage."

"One person, one vote, but the problem is the people who will stand is very limited," she said.

Panel member Christine Chanet said the committee is against the filtering of election candidates.

"The problem is that Beijing wants to vet candidates ... We have now put some pressure, but not too heavily, as we absolutely need China's cooperation," she told Reuters.




Ongoing protests

Pan-democratic politicians and Occupy Central campaigners in Hong Kong have dismissed an Aug. 31 edict by China's rubber-stamp parliament, the National People's Congress (NPC), ruling out public nomination of candidates as "fake universal suffrage."

Thousands of protesters have taken to the streets of Hong Kong since Sept. 28, calling for the resignation of embattled chief executive Leung Chun-ying and for the NPC ruling to be withdrawn.

Student leaders held live televised talks with Hong Kong officials on Tuesday, but have dismissed government offers of minor changes to a 1,200 nominations committee as "too vague," vowing to remain in occupation of streets near government headquarters in Admiralty and in the busy Kowloon shopping district of Mong Kok.

Hong Kong civil servants made an anonymous statement via Facebook in support of the Occupy Central movement, which has also garnered growing public support since it began, recent opinion polls showed.

Officials from the government information service, the police and the judiciary posted pictures of their ID cards with their names blacked out, after a group of 1,300 civil servants said they disagreed with the public sector union's criticism of the movement.

As hundreds of protesters geared up for another night behind the barricades on the Occupy protest sites, a group of climbers unfurled a giant banner from Kowloon's iconic Lion Rock.

The huge yellow banner bearing an umbrella logo and the slogan "I want genuine universal suffrage" was unfurled by climbers abseiling down the cliff face, a video posted by protest group "Hong Kong Spidie" to YouTube showed.

Group spokesman Andreas told local media that more than a dozen people had taken part in the operation, which took a week to prepare.

"What can we see when we look with the spirit of Lion Rock?" he told government broadcaster RTHK, in a reference to the rock's symbolism of Hong Kong's "can-do" spirit.

"What we see is an opportunity slipping away; it's clearly not in keeping with the spirit of Lion Rock," he said.

"We want people to know that this movement is very important to the people of Hong Kong ... because it represents a chance at fairness."

 


Kenny G

Meanwhile, China hit out on Thursday at U.S. smooth jazz musician Kenny G, who is hugely popular in China, after he tweeted about his visit to the site of Occupy Central protests in Admiralty on Wednesday.

"Kenny G's musical works are widely popular in China, but China's position on the illegal Occupy Central activities in Hong Kong is very clear," foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told reporters in Beijing.

"We hope that foreign governments and individuals will speak and act cautiously and not support the Occupy Central and other illegal activities in any form," she added.

The saxophonist, whose real name is Kenneth Gorelick, later claimed via social media that his visit hadn't been intended to show support for the protests, a claim refuted by those who met with him, the South China Morning Post reported.

"I was in Hong Kong as a stop on my way to perform at Mission Hills and happened to walk by the protest area as I was walking around Hong Kong as a tourist," he wrote.

"Some fans took my picture and it's unfair that I am being used by anyone to say that I am showing support for the demonstrators."

"I am not supporting the demonstrators ... Please don't mistake my peace sign for any other sign than a sign for peace," he said.

China's official media has also repeatedly called for homegrown Hong Kong celebrities who publicly supported the Occupy protesters to be banned from working in mainland China, across the internal border.





Injunctions

Several hundred protesters remained at Occupy sites late on Thursday, ready to stay in spite of High Court injunctions brought by public transportation groups ordering them to remove obstructions to traffic.

"We will carry on like this, occupying this place," a student protester who gave the name Simon told RFA. "This has nothing to do with the injunctions."

"I have already been here a long time, and this is already a civil disobedience movement that breaks the law," he said. "I just think this is a feint on their part, but ... I am prepared to accept being found guilty by the court."

Senior police superintendent Steve Hui once more called on protesters to comply with the injunctions, although the police have no mandate to enforce them.

"The injunctions are a civil matter, so the police won't directly enforce them," he said.

And legal expert Eric Cheung said enforcing the injunctions could be difficult, because it is hard to sort out exactly who among protesters and bystanders is responsible for the barricades.

Reported by Lin Jing and Wen Yuqing for RFA's Cantonese Service, and by Yang Fan and Yang Jiadai for the Mandarin Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.
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[Balthazar]

what  a clown here

Thanks for confirmation of your speciality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bv641C-Qz8E