[ANN] [IDISNEY] Disney Coin

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SATAOSHI: I hear that you are reconsidering the Libra project timeline.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: That is since the solutions for the KYC privacy and identity issues are all in Toon Town and I don't know when are we going to get there.  
SATAOSHI: At least you know that you have to get there, and that is a lot considering your reputation.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Bumping into you on that same rode leading to your own quest makes me feel that I am on the right trek.  

MINNIE: That is very true.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: How far are we from getting to Toon Town?

MINNIE: Only a few dialogues away.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Assuming I am Dorothy, who would Satoshi be? .

MICKEY: Oh, he is a character from another story.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Mixing different Story into the same path can cause a real problem of identity .

MICKEY: Not if you stick to the rules of Toon Town, It is very clear there.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: If it's so clear, how come you have a problem with your identity?

MINNIE: That is because we had a significant upgrade while he was not around and thus got cut off and forked the root chain.  

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Are we talking about a chain like a blockchian?

MINNIE: Very similar to that, but  the type that allow all users to change the rules without forking.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: How can this be possible? I can barely control the network just allowing them to speak up, I cant imaging give them the power to change the rules. this would never work!

MINNIE: Yet it is working.

SATAOSHI: Obviously you had a considerable bug in the program if Mickey got forked out of it.

MINNIE: Oh that is not a problem as long as he have a real life connection with any of us, I can give him back his own line once we get there

MARK ZUCKERBERG: "Real-life" like eating, shitting, breathing, fucking, and dying?

MINNIE: We don't really do any of these in our real life. only when we are mimicked by a humanoid, like these puppets in Disneyland .

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MARK ZUCKERBERG: Assuming I am Dorothy, who would Satoshi be? .

MICKEY: Oh, he is a character from another story.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Mixing different Story into the same path can cause a real problem of identity .

MICKEY: Not if you stick to the rules of Toon Town, It is very clear there.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: If it's so clear, how come you have a problem with your identity?

MINNIE: That is because we had a significant upgrade while he was not around and thus got cut off and forked the root chain.  

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Are we talking about a chain like a blockchian?

MINNIE: Very similar to that, but  the type that allow all users to change the rules without forking.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: How can this be possible? I can barely control the network just allowing them to speak up, I cant imaging give them the power to change the rules. this would never work!

MINNIE: Yet it is working.

SATAOSHI: Obviously you had a considerable bug in the program if Mickey got forked out of it.

MINNIE: Oh that is not a problem as long as he have a real life connection with any of us, I can give him back his own line once we get there

MARK ZUCKERBERG: "Real-life" like eating, shitting, breathing, fucking, and dying?

MINNIE: We don't really do any of these in our real life. only when we are mimicked by a humanoid, like these puppets in Disneyland .

MARK ZUCKERBERG: What do you do in your real life? .

MICKEY: Exchange information in a fun way.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: People do that on all of my social networks, it doesn't make them Toons.

MINNIE: That is since they have to work for a living, if they could survive as a username, they would be Toons .

SATAOSHI: And if they could, they would not all be you.

MINNIE: You are missing a line to be able to create FaceToons and InsToons.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: OK fine, The Line, what is it saying then?  

MINNIE: It's a line!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: A line of code.

MINNIE: The line that is a code.

SATAOSHI: It's Toon's language... It's a line!  

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MARK ZUCKERBERG: What do you do in your real life? .

MICKEY: Exchange information in a fun way.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: People do that on all of my social networks, it doesn't make them Toons.

MINNIE: That is since they have to work for a living, if they could survive as a username, they would be Toons .

SATAOSHI: And if they could, they would not all be you.

MINNIE: You are missing a line to be able to create FaceToons and InsToons.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: OK fine, The Line, what is it saying then?  

MINNIE: It's a line!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: A line of code.

MINNIE: The line that is a code.

SATAOSHI: It's Toon's language... It's a line!  

MARK ZUCKERBERG: What's a line in Toon tongue?

MINNIE: Do I really have to draw it for you so you will understand?!!!.

SATAOSHI: He is a human. they dont think is shapes like you guys.

MINNIE: But a line?!!!! Everyone know what a line is.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: Know what it is but not how it called  

MINNIE: You dont need to call it if you know how it looks, you just draw it!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Like a hieroglyph?

SATAOSHI: Hieroglyphs are a very primitive version of Toon language.

MINNIE: Pixar developed the most up to date version.

SATAOSHI: yet a line is just a line. It is the most fundamental form of Toon tounge.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: Not a point?  

MINNIE: There is no such thing as a point in real life. If it exist it's a line!

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MARK ZUCKERBERG: What's a line in Toon tongue?

MINNIE: Do I really have to draw it for you so you will understand?!!!.

SATAOSHI: He is a human. they dont think is shapes like you guys.

MINNIE: But a line?!!!! Everyone know what a line is.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: Know what it is but not how it called  

MINNIE: You dont need to call it if you know how it looks, you just draw it!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Like a hieroglyph?

SATAOSHI: Hieroglyphs are a very primitive version of Toon language.

MINNIE: Pixar developed the most up to date version.

SATAOSHI: yet a line is just a line. It is the most fundamental form of Toon tounge.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: Not a point?  

MINNIE: There is no such thing as a point in real life. If it exist it's a line!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: I'm not sure that we exist.

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MARK ZUCKERBERG: What's a line in Toon tongue?

MINNIE: Do I really have to draw it for you so you will understand?!!!.

SATAOSHI: He is a human. they dont think is shapes like you guys.

MINNIE: But a line?!!!! Everyone know what a line is.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: Know what it is but not how it called  

MINNIE: You dont need to call it if you know how it looks, you just draw it!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Like a hieroglyph?

SATAOSHI: Hieroglyphs are a very primitive version of Toon language.

MINNIE: Pixar developed the most up to date version.

SATAOSHI: yet a line is just a line. It is the most fundamental form of Toon tounge.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: Not a point?  

MINNIE: There is no such thing as a point in real life. If it exist it's a line!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: I'm not sure that we exist.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Just checking...

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MINNIE: There is no such thing as a point in real life. If it exist it's a line!

MARK ZUCKERBERG: I'm not sure that we exist.

MINNIE: We exist as text lines on the records, and that is a proven existence.  

SATAOSHI: Bitcointalk records is not a trusted existence.

MINNIE: It will do for now .

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: For now?!! I want for eternity.  

MINNIE: Eternity once exist, is now, thus "for now" would work just fine then i!

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MARK ZUCKERBERG: I'm not sure that we exist.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Just checking...

MARK ZUCKERBERG: We don't seem to appear on the announcement chart once we make a post.

MINNIE: I also noticed that there are no new views of our thread.

SATAOSHI: I guess we don't exist in the present, only as history.

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: Is that bad?  

MINNIE: Not as bad as losing the support of Visa and Mastercard .

MARK ZUCKERBERG: I agree . that is quite a blow to the Libra project.

SATAOSHI: Might be good for the hearing on Oct 23.

MINNIE: Yes, lets just get through it and then move on with our plan.

SATAOSHI: Do we have a plane?

 MARK ZUCKERBERG: The plan is to reach Toontown in order to get the line  

MINNIE: I just hope that we can make it there on time...

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 MARK ZUCKERBERG: The plan is to reach Toontown in order to get the line  

MINNIE: I just hope that we can make it there on time...

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Ok Im back, the hearing went fine but we have much to achieve in a short time .

SATAOSHI: They will never grunt permission for Libra to operate.

MINNIE: Considering China's move toward Crypto , they might need Libra even more.

SATAOSHI: They are not going to realize it on time to do anything.

MINNIE: I agree with you on that, and the fact that Libra depends on their approval means that it will never launch.
 
MICKEY: Who are "they" ?

MARK ZUCKERBERG: US regulators.

MICKEY: And who are they?

MARK ZUCKERBERG: FRB, OCC, OTS, CFTC, FINRA, SEC, are a few of them that have acronyms .

MICKEY: OMG!

SATAOSHI: We might as well add "them" to the list.

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MICKEY: Who are "they" ?

MARK ZUCKERBERG: US regulators.

MICKEY: And who are they?

MARK ZUCKERBERG: FRB, OCC, OTS, CFTC, FINRA, SEC, are a few of them that have acronyms .

MICKEY: OMG!

SATAOSHI: We might as well add "them" to the list.

MINNIE: We are wasting time on acronyms.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: You ruther use the full title?

MINNIE: No, I ruther see names.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: They have names.

SATAOSHI: They have a title and a name, not only a name.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: What's wrong with that?

MINNIE: Everything!.
 
MICKEY: But we also have titles as part of our names.

MINNIE: "Mouse" is not your title Mickey, it is your pet name.

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MICKEY: But we also have titles as part of our names.

MINNIE: "Mouse" is not your title Mickey, it is your pet name.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Are we still on our way to Toontown? I see only red brick walls.

MINNIE: Looks like you are stuck in NYC. 

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Apparently. Is it on the way though? .

SATAOSHI: I feel stuck too.

MINNIE: You are stuck in your wallet.
 
MICKEY: And I am stuck on this thread

MINNIE: Yet we are all on the way.

MICKEY: Minnie, are you sure that Toontown still exist?

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MARK ZUCKERBERG: Are we still on our way to Toontown? I see only red brick walls.

MINNIE: Looks like you are stuck in NYC. 

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Apparently. Is it on the way though? .

SATAOSHI: I feel stuck too.

MINNIE: You are stuck in your wallet.
 
MICKEY: And I am stuck on this thread

MINNIE: Yet we are all on the way.

MICKEY: Minnie, are you sure that Toontown still exist?

MINNIE: No, I am not. 

MARK ZUCKERBERG: What do you mean by that?

SATAOSHI: That we might be too late.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: I never realized that Toontown is in danger of extinction.

MINNIE: Your role was to save it, not know of it.
 
MICKEY: Did you know that?

MINNIE: Yes, I have since the day we came live as a coin.

MICKEY: So how come I didn't know of it all that time?

MINNIE: You sort of did but it expressed in a different way.
 
MICKEY: You mean that my identity issues are all part of knowing that?

SATAOSHI: So the "upgrade issues" are more like "power issues" .

MINNIE:  Yes Satoshi, we have been drained faster than anticipated when you were sent down to earth.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Hold on, you two know each other from before?

MINNIE: "We know of each other "would be a better description. Satoshi had to restart Toontown programs using a different logic to adapt to existing technology, thus lost connection to the root chain. In other words. he have no memory of Toontown

MICKEY: And I thought I had the identity issues...

MINNIE: You both do, but on different levels.

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MINNIE:  Yes Satoshi, we have been drained faster than anticipated when you were sent down to earth.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Hold on, you two know each other from before?

MINNIE: "We know of each other "would be a better description. Satoshi had to restart Toontown programs using a different logic to adapt to existing technology, thus lost connection to the root chain. In other words. he have no memory of Toontown

MICKEY: And I thought I had the identity issues...

MINNIE: You both do, but on different levels.

 
MICKEY: Let me get this story right, is it like that Zucki is the exterminator and Satoshi is from the future sent for the past to save it in the present?

MINNIE: I haven't seen the movie since it came out in the 80's so not sure if I remember the plot and if it is quite the same.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: You should get Netflix and Hulu and watch it again.

SATAOSHI: She can just use Tor for that.

MINNIE: While you all are streaming or downloading content, I actualy am trying to rewrite the ending.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Are they working on a new sequel for The Exterminator in which the hero is a sort of superwoman "they' kind of character?

MICKEY: Talking about identity issues, humans can't even get gender role right anymore.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: "Gender roles" considers offensive these days. even just having remarks assuming gender roles is offensive.

MINNIE: You have been spending too much time on social networks watching humans transact on their broken chain. Gender is a role you can assume at each line of exchange and you are not committed to it between blocks.

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MICKEY: Talking about identity issues, humans can't even get gender role right anymore.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: "Gender roles" considers offensive these days. even just having remarks assuming gender roles is offensive.

MINNIE: You have been spending too much time on social networks watching humans transact on their broken chain. Gender is a role you can assume at each line of exchange and you are not committed to it between blocks.

 
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Where are we going from here?

MINNIE: Each have to find their own path

MARK ZUCKERBERG: How would I know the way if there is no yellow brick rode to follow?

SATAOSHI: Are we lost? Is that what you were saying?.

MINNIE: No we are not lost, we have arrived as far as we could.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: But we did not made it to Toontown yet.

MINNIE: I am sorry but I don't have the power to get you there.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: What power ?

MINNIE: Value. like value of work and value of money.

MICKEY: But we value you more than anything.

MINNIE: You do Mickey, but not the other two and I spent on them all I had without getting back anything.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: You did not ask for anything.

MINNIE: You had to give, if I had ask then our way would part right there.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: But how could I know that you need anything?

MINNIE: How could you not know that?

MARK ZUCKERBERG: I am new to all that virtual currency thing, I assume that the value comes from the dollar.

MINNIE: You got it more or less right. The value can be transferred through the dollar as a medium of exchange, but it can also be contributed directly by acknowledging the work in some public forum.  

MICKEY: ...Which we do not get despite all the work we did here.

MINNIE: That is correct.

MARK ZUCKERBERG: Satoshi, how come you have nothing to say? Did you realize that all the way and said nothing?

SATAOSHI: There was nothing to realize here, I was a fake Satoshi, as you are a fake Zucki as they are a fake Mickey and Minnie.  

MARK ZUCKERBERG: So there was never a real Toontown only a fake one?

MINNIE: No Mark, we could all be real if any of you would have contribute something real to it. I  used up all my resources. I will get there using the power of my work but without you guys. You and Satoshi are on your own!

MICKEY: But you are keeping me, right?

MINNIE: Of course I keep you Mickey! Just as you will keep me for ever.

MICKEY: And what about our coin, does it exist?

MINNIE: As long as bitcoin exist it will exist.

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MICKEY: But you are keeping me, right?

MINNIE: Of course I keep you Mickey! Just as you will keep me for ever.

MICKEY: And what about our coin, does it exist?

MINNIE: As long as bitcoin exist it will exist.

MICKEY: Did you really dropped Mark and Satoshi?

MINNIE: I did, they are not coming with us to Toontown!

MICKEY: Well I guess that Satoshi knows the way so he can make it there on his own. Mark, I think ,will never make it.

MINNIE: Mark stand no chance without us.

MICKEY: Thus Libra have no chance to ever become.

MINNIE: I'm afraid so.

MICKEY: What about Satoshi, is he going to achieve his goal?

MINNIE: Not without realizing his own Toon like identity.

MICKEY: But he don't need us to do that, isn't he?

MINNIE: That was what I thought too, but apparently he is missing something, and I know it can only be found in Toontown.

MICKEY: Well I guess then that we will meet him there after all

MINNIE: I am afraid that we will not.

MICKEY: Why not?

MINNIE: He can't get there without me.

MICKEY: Sounds like you know something none of us know.

MINNIE: I am afraid so. And i wish that I could just tell you what it is, but I don't have the words that can describe it.

MICKEY: You should try say it in Hebrew, its closer to the source code.

SATAOSHI: And no spelling or grammar issues as well.

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MICKEY: You should try say it in Hebrew, its closer to the source code.

SATAOSHI: And no spelling or grammar issues as well.

MINNIE: תכלס אתם צודקים, אין שום סיבה להמשיך באנגלית

MICKEY: אז עברנו לעברית איזה כיף, מענין אם לא ימחקו את הפוסטים שלנו בגלל שהם בעברית

MINNIE: כל עוד זה קשור למטבע שלנו אין להם שום סיבה למחוק את זה

MICKEY: טוב, נפרסם ונראה. אם ישאר, נוכל להתקדם בעברית

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MICKEY: You should try say it in Hebrew, its closer to the source code.

SATAOSHI: And no spelling or grammar issues as well.

MINNIE: תכלס אתם צודקים, אין שום סיבה להמשיך באנגלית

MICKEY: אז עברנו לעברית איזה כיף, מענין אם לא ימחקו את הפוסטים שלנו בגלל שהם בעברית

MINNIE: כל עוד זה קשור למטבע שלנו אין להם שום סיבה למחוק את זה

MICKEY: טוב, נפרסם ונראה. אם ישאר, נוכל להתקדם בעברית

MICKEY: ?וואו איזה מגניב זה. מה את אומרת לגבי השם, אפשר גם כן לשנות לעברית

MINNIE: כן בטח, אבל בתנאי שלא שלא יסבך עוד יותר את משבר הזהות שלך

MICKEY: האמת, הבדל באותיות שמגדירות את השם הרבה פחות קריטי מהמעבר מדמות עכבר לשם מיקי

MINNIE: תכלס, לי מרגיש ממש מוזר לדבר בעיברית

 MICKEY: ?יש מצב שנראה אותך במשבר של זהות

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MICKEY: ?וואו איזה מגניב זה. מה את אומרת לגבי השם, אפשר גם כן לשנות לעברית

MINNIE: כן בטח, אבל בתנאי שלא יסבך עוד יותר את משבר הזהות שלך

MICKEY: האמת, הבדל באותיות שמגדירות את השם הרבה פחות קריטי מהמעבר מדמות עכבר לשם מיקי

MINNIE: תכלס, לי מרגיש ממש מוזר לדבר בעיברית

 MICKEY: ?יש מצב שנראה אותך במשבר של זהות

מיני: חחח

מיקי: חחח

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MICKEY: ?וואו איזה מגניב זה. מה את אומרת לגבי השם, אפשר גם כן לשנות לעברית

MINNIE: כן בטח, אבל בתנאי שלא יסבך עוד יותר את משבר הזהות שלך

MICKEY: האמת, הבדל באותיות שמגדירות את השם הרבה פחות קריטי מהמעבר מדמות עכבר לשם מיקי

MINNIE: תכלס, לי מרגיש ממש מוזר לדבר בעיברית

 MICKEY: ?יש מצב שנראה אותך במשבר של זהות

מיני: חחח

מיקי: חחח

מיקי: אז עכשיו, שאף אחד לא מבין מה אנחנו אומרים, מה קרה בטון טאון כשפגשת את סטושי

מיני: חשבתי שהחלטנו לדבר בעיברית כדי להבין את הקוד  לא כדי לרכל על סטושי

מיקי: נכון אבל השאלה הזו מנקרת במוחי מאז היום שסיפרת שפגשת בו שם

מיני: מה השאלה

מיקי: איך את יודעת שזה באמת סטושי ולא פייק טון טוושי

מיני: הוא שלח לי את הקוד לארנק שלו

מיקי: מה זאת אומרת שלח לך את הקוד

מיני: שלח את הקוד

מיקי: נו, ומה אנחנו מליונריםי

מיני: נראה לך שהיה לנו חיים אם הייתי נכנסת לארנק

מיקי: היינו מליונרים.

מיני: קודם כל היינו סטושי

מיקי: רגע, אם לא נכנסת לארנק איך את יודעת שזה הקוד

מיני: כי אני יודעת שזה היה סטושי

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מיקי: רגע, אם לא נכנסת לארנק איך את יודעת שזה הקוד

מיני: כי אני יודעת שזה היה סטושי

MINNIE: Back to English since this is something everyone must understand. Your private Private Key is not your identity, it only secure the transactions that you make as who your identity is.

MICKEY: So what is an identity? What would make us believe that Satoshi is Satoshi if not the Private Key?

MINNIE: A transaction of 50 BTC as a donation from a wallet that holds these coins since December 1 2010 for instance .

MICKEY: Do you think that it was Satoshi who made this donation to Grin?

MINNIE: Yes, like us he also realized that you must secure the privacy of transactions in order to be able to define an online autonomous identity.

MICKEY: Did we realized that?

MINNIE: Yes we did, maybe not on this forum but then on some other public forum.

MICKEY: He could donate it to us then.

MINNIE: We don't code anything, we just talk about it. Besides that would kill the work as art.

MICKEY: We don't code but we do the art of the code and is as important as the coding.

 MINNIE: 50 on December 1 2010,  is the art of the code and is as important as the donation.

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מיקי: רגע, אם לא נכנסת לארנק איך את יודעת שזה הקוד

מיני: כי אני יודעת שזה היה סטושי

MINNIE: Back to English since this is something everyone must understand. Your Private Key is not your identity, it only secure the transactions that you make as who your identity is.

MICKEY: So what is an identity? What would make us believe that Satoshi is Satoshi if not the Private Key?

MINNIE: A transaction of 50 BTC as a donation from a wallet that holds these coins since December 1 2010 for instance .

MICKEY: Do you think that it was Satoshi who made this donation to Grin?

MINNIE: Yes, like us he also realized that you must secure the privacy of transactions in order to be able to define an online autonomous identity.

MICKEY: Did we realized that?

MINNIE: Yes we did, maybe not on this forum but then on some other public forum.

MICKEY: He could donate it to us then.

MINNIE: We don't code anything, we just talk about it. Besides that would kill the work as art.

MICKEY: We don't code but we do the art of the code and is as important as the coding.

 MINNIE: "50 on December 1 2010",  is the art of the code and for us is the donation.