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MINNIE: We as a Team.

SATOSHI: How is We as a Team different from We as a Chain?  

MICKEY: Or from "We are all Satoshi"?





MINNIE: The Satoshi who is the creator of bitcoin is all his bitcoin address.

MICKEY: So if We all have the private key to that address We are all Satoshi?

SATOSHI: Grin

MICKEY: But We don't have it.

MINNIE: Unless We can figure out the shape.

MICKEY: And what that shape might be?

MINNIE: Could be some of his public statements or well known quotes he referenced.

MICKEY: I am sure that all of these options where explored.

MINNIE: And I am sure that none used a timestamp to get the right shape.

MICKEY: You can't hash the timestamp of the hash into itself.

MINNIE: No, but you can chain the hashes.

SATOSHI: If you have a timestamp server which works by taking a hash of a block of items to be timestamped and widely publishing the hash, such as in a newspaper, then the timestamp proves that the data must have existed at the time, obviously, in order to get into the hash.

MICKEY: Funny use of words, "the time"

MINNIE: Good choice of paper, "The Times"

SATOSHI: Good use of font, "THE TIMES"



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MICKEY: Funny use of words, "the time"

MINNIE: Good choice of paper, "The Times"

SATOSHI: Good use of font, "THE TIMES"





MICKEY: The Time is a chain of Times stamped by the Timestamp server which works by taking a hash of a block of the previous timestamped hash to be timestamped, and widely publishing the hash, thus proves that the previous block must have existed at the new time, obviously, in order to get into the hash.

MINNIE: And THE TIMES sets the first time on the Timestamp server which serves the BTC Blockchain.

SATOSHI: Thus THE TIMES's time is the first time on the first decentralized Timestamp machine ever.

MINNIE: Thus THE TIMES's time marks the beginning of a new era, using the same count of the the old era.

MICKEY: That of The New Testament.

MINNIE: Which reference the Old Testament using the word New.

MICKEY: Dose that means using the word New in Hebrew?

MINNIE: Obviously! Hebrew is our first language.

SATOSHI: Let's just hope that it is clear to all our readers.


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MINNIE: Obviously! Hebrew is our first language.

SATOSHI: Let's just hope that it is clear to all our readers.





MINNIE: We are diverting from the main topic.

MICKEY :Which is ....?

MINNIE: The direct link between time and chaining data.

MICKEY: The link is the chain.

MINNIE: Exactly!! what we just learned is that time is a chain of itself as data.

MICKEY: The Time is a chain of Times stamped by the Timestamp server which works by taking a hash of a block of the previous timestamped hash to be timestamped, and widely publishing the hash, thus proves that the previous block must have existed at the new time, obviously, in order to get into the hash.




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MINNIE: Exactly!! what we just learned is that time is a chain of itself as data.

MICKEY: The Time is a chain of Times stamped by the Timestamp server which works by taking a hash of a block of the previous timestamped hash to be timestamped, and widely publishing the hash, thus proves that the previous block must have existed at the new time, obviously, in order to get into the hash.




MINNIE: Fantastic!!! Let's move on to the Birthchain then.

MICKEY : The chain of all beginnings!  

MINNIE: The chain of all future genesis.

MICKEY: Will be fun to use the last block of bitcoin as genesis to all future genesis.

MINNIE: Which last bitcoin's block? That of BTC, BCHVS or BCHABC or any of the other forks?

MICKEY: So it is the ticker's name that matters here.

SATOSHI: It is worth mentioning at this point that the Birthchain will be creating the genesis of all entities be it personal identities, blockchains or coins, while let any first name decide on the ticker by which to trade its coins once a fork is taking place at the level of the third names chain.

MINNIE: Worth mentioning but needs a lot of explaining.
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SATOSHI: It is worth mentioning at this point that the Birthchain will be creating the genesis of all entities be it personal identities, blockchains or coins, while let any first name decide on the ticker by which to trade its coins once a fork is taking place at the level of the third names chain.

MINNIE: Worth mentioning but needs a lot of explaining.




MICKEY : Lets start by explaining genesis.

SATOSHI: There Will Be...

MINNIE: An empty client's block.

MICKEY : And a server.

MINNIE: The client is the server.

MICKEY: Then who served the first block to the first client in the network?

MINNIE: The client.

MICKEY: That then explains the unspendable first block reward then.

SATOSHI: If you can explain that, you will be the first one doing it.

MICKEY: Imagine being the first and only one.  

SATOSHI: I can remember that.

MICKEY: Now imagine not being and then becoming the only one.  

SATOSHI: I was that too.  

MICKEY: Next imagine the first action that you did.

SATOSHI: Like mining the first block?.  

MICKEY: Exactly! But that is not all, according to the protocol that action if you do it correctly reward you with the first block reward.

SATOSHI: That is correct.  

MICKEY: So in order to validate your first action, which means validating your own being as a trusted party you have to accept the reword.

SATOSHI: That I can imagine.  

MINNIE: But even if correct,  that only explains why Satoshi took a reward on the genesis block but not why it is not spendable.  

MICKEY: Since all that Satoshi is and for ever will be is that first unspendable reward.

SATOSHI: That is correct Mickey!

MICKEY: It is sad to just be a pile of 50 bitcoins.

MINNIE: Well, by now it is a pile of many more unspendable Alt coins, thus in fact over 90 different Satoshis.

MICKEY: You mean Satoshi Nakanotos, the number of different Satoshis is far greater.

MINNIE: Yes, that is what I meant and is also a great example for why we need to have three names starting with the first name on the Birthchain.




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MICKEY: You mean Satoshi Nakanotos, the number of different Satoshis is far greater.

MINNIE: Yes, that is what I meant and is also a great example for why we need to have three names starting with the first name on the Birthchain.





SATOSHI: You guys give me hope to become a Toon with a pile of spendable coins ruther than the pile of unspendable coins.  

MINNIE:: And you gives us hope to become free Toons , each having a pile of spendable coins.

MICKEY: We all give us a chance to be each an individual I .  

SATOSHI: I Disney!

MINNIE: Might be time to put our Disney Coins back on the market....  

MICKEY: IDISNEY

SATOSHI: Did you two had it all planed out when you decide on the ticker name?

MINNIE: Not until you joined the dialogue.  

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MICKEY: IDISNEY

SATOSHI: Did you two had it all planed out when you decide on the ticker name?

MINNIE: Not until you joined the dialogue.  





SATOSHI: I think that We just reached the point for your long monologue Minnie.

MICKEY: The Introduction of Toonnivers by Minnie Mouse. 

MINNIE:: Do you really think that We are ready for that?

MICKEY: We are! .  

SATOSHI: Our readers might not be there yet, but they will eventually.

MINNIE: Ok, I'm going to get ready, and will be back with the introduction monologue for our next dialogue segment.   

SATOSHI: Grin

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MICKEY: IDISNEY

SATOSHI: Did you two had it all planed out when you decide on the ticker name?

MINNIE: Not until you joined the dialogue.  





SATOSHI: I think that We just reached the point for your long monologue Minnie.

MICKEY: The Introduction of Toonniverse by Minnie Mouse.

SATOSHI: The Abstract, rather.  

MINNIE:: Do you really think that We are ready for that?

MICKEY: We are! .  

SATOSHI: Our readers might not be there yet, but they will eventually.

MINNIE: Ok, I'm going to prepare, and will be ready with the introduction monologue for our next dialogue segment.  

SATOSHI: Grin


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December 01, 2018, 09:59:21 AM
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such an interesting presentation and a great name that everyone knows! team, why is the project standing still and not developing for such a long time? Huh

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such an interesting presentation and a great name that everyone knows! team, why is the project standing still and not developing for such a long time? Huh

There are many reasons and the main one is that it was and still is ahead of its time. Both in terms of the art concept and the economic paradigm that it tries to convey. Also it is created in a way that the artistic value is the real value of the coin . There where a few ways to go about increasing the artistic value but I chose to let things evolve while keep doing my work.
And as things evolved it is now reaching a very interesting phase in which I am about to introduce a solution to the Holy Grail of life's technological enigma. In other words the logic by which life is created.
In fact I am quite convince that it is the same quest Satoshi Nakamoto was after when leaving the bitcoin project and moving onward.
I hope that once I reach a good description of the main architecture of the project he will help take it further to the actual programming. Him or anyone else pretending as him. Grin   In any case I have already created the character just in case. Tongue  
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MINNIE: Ok, I'm going to prepare, and will be ready with the introduction monologue for our next dialogue segment.  

SATOSHI: Grin





MICKEY : We are still waiting Minnie.

MINNIE: Who is We?!!

MICKEY: I thought that We have been through that definition.

MINNIE: Seems like things have changed while We were talking.

MICKEY: What are you talking about?

MINNIE: We have been steemed up.

MICKEY: Steemed?!!

MINNIE: Yes at Blockchaincat on Steemit

MICKEY: Did you just say Cat?!!!

MINNIE: Yes! Satoshi friended a cat on a Blockchain!

MICKEY: Friended a Cat?!!!

MINNIE: While We were talking about The Time.

MICKEY: So he also double spend our Time at the same Time?.  

MINNIE: Worse! He did all that using his old account.

MICKEY: I see... but he was also talking to you, wasn't he?


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MICKEY: So he also double spend our Time at the same Time?.  

MINNIE: Worse! He did all that using his old account.

MICKEY: I see... but he was also talking to you, wasn't he?




MINNIE: That in fact was really clever.

MICKEY: What, friending a cat Toon?.

MINNIE: Yes, that while talking from his original account.

MICKEY: So double spending our time is Ok with you too?

MINNIE: If he can be in different places at the same time that is fine.

MICKEY: Fine for human pretending being a Toon. but not as a free Toon.

MINNIE: Once a free Toon, time is the only restriction.


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MICKEY: Fine for human pretend being a Toon. but not as a free Toon.

MINNIE: Once a free Toon, time is the only restriction.





MINNIE: Abstract.  A Toon versed version of a universe would allow lifeforms to be formed directly online by any party without a central entity that coordinate or permit it.
The bitcoin protocol provide part of the solution, but the main benefit is lost if time can be double spend and the coins are the only assets that can not be cloned. Digital signatures on the blockchain provide the other part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if the only information that we can verify based on a decentralized peer-to-peer network is that of the coins state and not the entire KB state.
We propose a solution to the Fake News problem using four parallel chains structure to create a trust wordy independent identity.
The four chain are : Birthchain.....




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MINNIE: We propose a solution to the Fake News problem using four parallel chains structure to create a trust wordy independent identity.
The four chains are : Birthchain.....



SATOSHI: "A solution to the Fake News problem", are you sure about that Minnie?

MINNIE: Imagine The Times being a Fake News newspaper...

SATOSHI: It was The Time that mattered back then.  

MINNIE: Well, now it also matters what you do with your Time!

MICKEY: Like spending it on a Cat.

SATOSHI: Sort of a Mouse Cat ....  .

MINNIE: ... OMG ! he is a Mouse too!

MICKEY: The Cat?!!.

MINNIE: No, Satoshi Nakamoto , he used the same mask.



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MINNIE: ... OMG ! he is a Mouse too!

MICKEY: The Cat?!!.

MINNIE: No, Satoshi Nakamoto , he used the same mask.




MICKEY:  Hold on... I though that you can have only one animal name.

SATOSHI: Me Too. .

MINNIE: You are both correct, that was what I thought too until I realized the hidden meaning behind the spelling of word anonymous.

MICKEY: ... So a Mouse was always just a mask?...
 
MINNIE: I think that this can solve all your identity problems Mickey.

SATOSHI: As is your legal issues with Disney.

MICKEY: So I am a Free Toon!!!.

MINNIE: Not until we build Toonnivers .

SATOSHI: And we seem to be stuck on the name of the second chain, right Minnie?

MINNIE: It is not only the name but also the functions and implications of the second names chain that hold us up at this point.

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MINNIE: It is not only the name but also the functions and implications of the second names chain that hold us up at this point.



MICKEY: I have one question for Satoshi before we move on.  

SATOSHI: Go on! .

MICKEY: Did you have it all planed out when you chose your new friend?...

SATOSHI: Not until she joined the dialogue.

MICKEY: What, the annoying mouse Cat is a she?.

MINNIE: Not the Cat, Nour ! .

SATOSHI: not nour nor the Cat is Minnie

MICKEY: what?!!

MINNIE: That was not funny Satoshi!

MICKEY: You sound mad Minnie.

SATOSHI: I thought that you will like it.

MINNIE: I did until now, but its not funny anymore.

SATOSHI: Enlighten me pleas.

MICKEY: I would be more careful If I were you Satoshi, she might burn you.

MINNIE: OK, did we covered all possible meaning and interpretation to the event on November 29th?.

MICKEY: Well, pleas don't be mad but it was also the anniversary of the Balfour Declaration.


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MINNIE: It is not only the name but also the functions and implications of the second names chain that hold us up at this point.




MINNIE: OK, did We covered all possible meanings and interpretations of the events on November 29th?.

MICKEY: Well, pleas don't be mad but it was also the anniversary of the Balfour Declaration.






MINNIE-nili: Not mad at all.

MICKEY-nili: Wow Wow..  Something is not looking quite right.

MINNIE-nili: Actually exactly right.

MICKEY-nili: What is going on here? Are We shrinking?

SATOSHI-nili: First getting a second name, then shrinking. .

MINNIE-nili: It is not only the name and size but also the the characteristics of the second names on the second chain.

SATOSHI-nili:: cool.  

MICKEY-nili:: I don't follow.

SATOSHI-nili:: We are now a demo to the names on the second chain.

MINNIE-nili: Also to the functions and implications of the second chain.  

MICKEY-nili: I still don't follow.

SATOSHI-nili: Actually you are!.  

MICKEY-nili: I don't remember making that choice.

MINNIE-nili: The function Follow is a default action associated with the second chain's Choose-A-Second-Name function

MICKEY-nili: So I could Unfollow if it was real?!



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MINNIE-nili: The function Follow is a default action associated with the second chain's Choose-A-Second-Name function

MICKEY-nili: So I could Unfollow if it was real?!




MINNIE-nili: It is not making sense to Unfollow once activating a second name.

MICKEY-nili: So if I don't Follow I don't make any sense too?

MINNIE-nili: Well, it is more like acting as a gambler.

MICKEY-nili: There must be some sense in that then.

SATOSHI-nili: Yes gambling is no nonsense if Follow the consensus. .

MICKEY-nili: So what am I Following then, when I Unfollow?

MINNIE-nili: You sort of joining the majority.

SATOSHI-nili:: The majority turns into the consensus unless there is a split at your second name's branch .  

MICKEY-nili: Ok I think that I Follow that.

MINNIE-nili: Great!!! Now your Voice counts.

MICKEY-nili: Lost again....

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MICKEY-nili: Ok I think that I Follow that.

MINNIE-nili: Great!!! Now your Voice counts.

MICKEY-nili: Lost again....





MINNIE-nili: The second chain is the Voice chain.

MICKEY-nili: Voice like a Moo?

MINNIE-nili: Moo is the sound of your voice if a Caw is your second name, but you have to vote in order for it to be heard and for that you must Follow.

SATOSHI-nili: Same if it was a Meow.

MICKEY-nili: I will never choose a Cat as a second name!

SATOSHI-nili: Whatever you choose, just be sure to Follow.

MINNIE-nili: Unless it is an animal name that you trust.

MICKEY-nili: Like a Mouse?

MINNIE-nili: Trust or don't really have an opinion about the topics that they bring to a vote

SATOSHI-nili: Like as a Bee...    

MINNIE-nili: I love Bees and also really really trust them. Bee would most definitely be one of my choices to join but Unfollow.


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MICKEY-nili: Ok I think that I Follow that.

MINNIE-nili: Great!!! Now your Voice counts.

MICKEY-nili: Lost again....







MINNIE-nili: I love Bees and also really really trust them. Bee would most definitely be one of my choices to join but Unfollow.




MICKEY-nili: Let me see if I get this Follow/Unfollow thing right. The second name chain is the voting platform. Any first name can join or create any second name chain but must Follow in order to vote. If chose to Unfollow it then counts with the majority... What are they all voting about?

MINNIE-nili: The Truth!

MICKEY-nili: The Truth according to the consensus...

MINNIE-nili: Yes, That is the concept but no one yet was able to come up with the architecture for a decentralized network that is decidable and expressive enough to create that Truth.

MICKEY-nili: ....And you think that We can do it?!!!

MINNIE-nili: Depending on how you define Do.



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