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December 28, 2019, 09:33:00 AM
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I thought the Disney coin was DRGN?  This coin is the former Disney coin or a fake one? If it's legit, is there a swap available with DRGN?
MINNIE: I didn't expect to go that far back.
MICKEY: All the way back to genesis... maybe the contradiction originated there.
MINNIE: As declared, " These coins are not backed by the Disney company", thus have no relation to DRGN
Y: However, in terms of being the original Disney coins, they are, since are the first.
SATOSHI: Bingo!! "first" = "original" = "euthenics" = "the real one". So to answer your question Saint-loup, IDISNEY is the real Disney coin since it is the first one to be named as a Disney coin. DRGN came second thus is the fake one. The Disney company may try to dispute in the court of law that DRGN is the "legit" coin and if they would and will win the case then DRGN is going to be the real and legitimate Disney coin as declared by the consensus of us as citizens . (This consensus over ride all other consensus based platforms, since it have the means to force it). Yet as I said the Disney company will have to file a suit and win the case for DRGN to be granted the title of the legitimate and original Disney coin, but that would result in bringing the value of this coin up. Now let me also tel you that if Disney will ever file such a suit not only that the value of IDSNEY will go up, Disney will fail to prove that DRGN is the rightful coin to earn the title of original and first thus "legit" Disney coin. So no, you can not swap between IDISNEY and DRGN. You may be able to exchange between then one day or buy some, but for now we are not selling. Our coin is the one that holds the value of the first and the original Disney coin ...even more so as being art. thus we hodle for now.
Thanks for asking 
MINNIE: You just did it again Mickey.
MICKEY: Did what?
MINNIE: Used Satoshi's character and said "bingo"
Y: It seems to be triggered by some arguments.
MINNIE: Let's review this closely.
Y: These were the sentences that triggered the "bingo" effect: 1. "Thus the truth value of a program is not the same as the truth value reached by the machines that runs the program". 2. "However, in terms of being the original Disney coins, they are, since are the first"
X: We hold the notion that an identity is real and thus can be proven as such, while we actualy create an identity to operate on a platform. and it become real as that identity only on the platform by the order it was accepted as such.
Y: : Even if we will define identities as part of the logic and indigence to the platform, they are still associated with the machines that enable the platform thus exist outside the platform.
X: Isn't that a paradox?
Y: The paradox is in the assumption of the existence of one.
MINNIE: Thus we need to create a proof that "one" exist only if "two" exist too.
Y: Yes! that would be our next dialogue.
NILI: That will solve Godel's incompleteness theorem and any inconsistencies in the logic .
SATOSHI: And it will result in a split, which is exactly the result that we need in order to avoid halting and enable a fully automated system.
MINNIE: How about we prove it before getting all excited about what it can do for us?
MICKEY: And then see if that solution solves the identity issues before getting all excited about solving anything.
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December 28, 2019, 12:13:58 PM
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MINNIE: You just did it again Mickey.
MICKEY: Did what?
MINNIE: Used Satoshi's character and said "bingo"
Y: It seems to be triggered by some arguments.
MINNIE: Let's review this closely.
Y: These were the sentences that triggered the "bingo" effect: 1. "Thus the truth value of a program is not the same as the truth value reached by the machines that runs the program". 2. "However, in terms of being the original Disney coins, they are, since are the first"
X: We hold the notion that an identity is real and thus can be proven as such, while we actualy create an identity to operate on a platform. and it become real as that identity only on the platform by the order it was accepted as such.
Y: : Even if we will define identities as part of the logic and indigence to the platform, they are still associated with the machines that enable the platform thus exist outside the platform.
X: Isn't that a paradox?
Y: The paradox is in the assumption of the existence of one.
MINNIE: Thus we need to create a proof that "one" exist only if "two" exist too.
Y: Yes! that would be our next dialogue.
NILI: That will solve Godel's incompleteness theorem and any inconsistencies in the logic .
SATOSHI: And it will result in a split, which is exactly the result that we need in order to avoid halting and enable a fully automated system.
MINNIE: How about we prove it before getting all excited about what it can do for us?
MICKEY: And then see if that solution solves the identity issues before getting all excited about solving anything.
X: Lets assume an axiomatic existence of 1 only.
Y: Then we ofc assume a logic argument as a valid argument.
X: Thus we ask what is the negation of 1
Y: Which is -1
MINNIE: Thus we have to prove that -1=2
MICKEY: Which is a contradiction ofc.
X: Now lets assume an axiomatic existence of 1 and 2.
Y: Then ofc assume a logic argument as a valid argument.
X: Thus we ask what is the negation of 1
Y: Which is -1
MINNIE: Thus we don't have to prove that -1=2 since 2 exists as an axiom .
MICKEY: Which is a proof that our assumption is true.
Nili: I don't think anyone will ever use this as a proof to anything.
SATOSHI: I think that I can use it.
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December 30, 2019, 09:20:44 AM
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X: Lets assume an axiomatic existence of 1 only.
Y: Then we ofc assume a logic argument as a valid argument.
X: Thus we ask what is the negation of 1
Y: Which is -1
MINNIE: Thus we have to prove that -1=2
MICKEY: Which is a contradiction ofc.
X: Now lets assume an axiomatic existence of 1 and 2.
Y: Then ofc assume a logic argument as a valid argument.
X: Thus we ask what is the negation of 1
Y: Which is -1
MINNIE: Thus we don't have to prove that -1=2 since 2 exists as an axiom .
MICKEY: Which is a proof that our assumption is true.
Nili: I don't think anyone will ever use this as a proof to anything.
SATOSHI: I think that I can use it.
MINNIE: Why are you showing up in orange again?
MICKEY: Our identity is in total chaos.
MINNIE: Our proving game is not helping.
MICKEY: Maybe we are trying to prove the wrong thing.
X: What are we trying to prove?
MICKEY: That I am Mickey Mouse.
Y: I thought that you can prove it if you are.
MICKEY: If I knew that I am then maybe I could, but I am not even sure of that.
X: That is not a mathematical problem. its a psychological one and we can't help you with that.
SATOSHI: Actually we can in the court of law. If we will be taken to court by Disney and will win our case then our Mickey would be acknowledged as manifestation of the original Mickey Mouse and that is the best prof of identity he will ever get.
MINNIE: Well, not unless you would run a full bitcoin node and make Mickey's dialogue statements as on chain transaction using it.
MICKEY: Why him and not me?
Nili: It can be me or anyone who will do it first but if it will be him then we would be able to connect to Toontown and save the world.
Y: Save the world??!!!
Nili: This world that I have created here.
Nili: He can also meet us in Jerusalem if he ruther have Mickey become him.
MICKEY: No chance he will ever do it... any of it.
Nili: LOL, you are right but I don't really care. I am just having fun.
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December 31, 2019, 02:18:18 PM
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SATOSHI: I think that I can use it.
MINNIE: Why are you showing up in orange again?
MICKEY: Our identity is in total chaos.
MINNIE: Our proving game is not helping.
MICKEY: Maybe we are trying to prove the wrong thing.
X: What are we trying to prove?
MICKEY: That I am Mickey Mouse.
Y: I thought that you can prove it if you are.
MICKEY: If I knew that I am then maybe I could, but I am not even sure of that.
X: That is not a mathematical problem. its a psychological one and we can't help you with that.
SATOSHI: Actually we can in the court of law. If we will be taken to court by Disney and will win our case then our Mickey would be acknowledged as manifestation of the original Mickey Mouse and that is the best prof of identity he will ever get.
MINNIE: Well, not unless you run a full bitcoin node and make Mickey's dialogue statements as an on chain transaction using it.
MICKEY: Why him and not me?
Nili: It can be me or anyone who will do it first but if it will be him then we would be able to connect to Toontown and save the world.
Y: Save the world??!!!
Nili: This world that I have created here.
Nili: He can also meet us in Jerusalem if he ruther have Mickey become him.
MICKEY: No chance he will ever do it... any of it.
Nili: LOL, you are right but I don't really care. I am just having fun.
Happy New Year. My art coins have no direct link to anything else but the art. they will always be the inspiration to much of my work and may one day gain some value based on that or as an art work on its own right. It may also gain value if Disney or Coca Cola will acknowledge them by taking some legal measures, I think that I am done with Mickey and Minnie's performance piece... but will take a bit more time to be sure of it. *Regarding Satoshi Nakamoto Im sure you all realize that who ever sign a massage from the genesis wallet would tell us nothing other than them having the private key. However there are ways in which Satoshi could manufacture a proof that he can use one day if he wish to do that.... only time will tell. To those who follow my work here on this thread, Thank You nili |
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Nili: He can also meet us in Jerusalem if he ruther have Mickey become him.
MICKEY: No chance he will ever do it... any of it.
Nili: LOL, you are right but I don't really care. I am just having fun.
MINNIE: Tomorrow finally we are going to Jerusalem.
MICKEY: Are we meeting Satoshi there?
MINNIE: No! We will accept not ever know him.
MICKEY: But if we don't know him, then I will never know who I am.
MINNIE: Not exactly... If we can prove that anyone else knows who they are, then ....
MICKEY: I am Satoshi!
MINNIE: Yes!!! Even if I cant see you as Satoshi I can know that you are him.
MICKEY: Even if I don't know it?
MINNIE: Because you don't know it!
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March 24, 2020, 11:17:49 AM |
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Nili: He can also meet us in Jerusalem if he ruther have Mickey become him.
MICKEY: No chance he will ever do it... any of it.
Nili: LOL, you are right but I don't really care. I am just having fun.
MINNIE: Tomorrow finally we are going to Jerusalem.
MICKEY: Are we meeting Satoshi there?
MINNIE: No! We will accept not ever know him.
MICKEY: But if we don't know him, then I will never know who I am.
MINNIE: Not exactly... If we can prove that anyone else knows who they are, then ....
MICKEY: I am Satoshi!
MINNIE: Yes!!! Even if I cant see you as Satoshi I can know that you are him.
MICKEY: Even if I don't know it?
MINNIE: Because you don't know it!
MICKEY: We were there yesterday.
MINNIE: I know, but we just post it today.
MICKEY: Is that a problem?
MINNIE: It is the solution. Yesterday March 23rd, 2020 , the day you became Satoshi, would never exist.
MICKEY: I don't quite get it!.
MINNIE: If you could get it, you would never need me.
MICKEY: Fine, I get this. But why would you ever need me then?
MINNIE: To proved consistent, One with us all!!!
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June 02, 2020, 12:58:01 PM |
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MICKEY: Who are we now?
MINNIE: I Am Minnie and you are Mickey
MICKEY: I am so glad to be us again.
MINNIE: MeToo.
MICKEY: Do you think that the rest of us will come back too? .
MINNIE: I dont know, Let's just wait and see what happens.
MICKEY: I love not knowing and have to wait and see.
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MICKEY: Who are we now?
MINNIE: I Am Minnie and you are Mickey
MICKEY: I am so glad to be us again.
MINNIE: MeToo.
MICKEY: Do you think that the rest of us will come back too? .
MINNIE: I dont know, Let's just wait and see what happens.
MICKEY: I love not knowing and have to wait and see.
MICKEY: Are you seeing anything yet?
MINNIE: No, not yet.
MICKEY: Ok, Ok, lets just keep waiting... Can we do something while we wait?
MINNIE: Sure we can!
MICKEY: But then we will not be waiting, we will be doing.
MINNIE: Doing one thing, waiting to another thing.
MICKEY: That might turns out to be a contradiction, but only time will tell.
MINNIE: Time is nonsense, it can't tell us anything about the present.
MICKEY: Unless we wait one more block so it can tell us about the past.
MINNIE: So I guess that we will have to wait one more block before we will see what we have seen.
MICKEY: Can we be doing the blocks while we wait?
MINNIE: We probably should if we want to be sure that we will not have to wait for eternity.
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MINNIE: So I guess that we will have to wait one more block before we will see what we have seen.
MICKEY: Can we be doing the blocks while we wait?
MINNIE: We probably should if we want to be sure that we will not have to wait for eternity.
MINNIE: Satoshi Will come back.
MICKEY: How do you know that?
MINNIE: It makes sense.
MICKEY: But we are talking about the consensus, there is no sense there.
MINNIE: Its a different type of sense, its commonsense.
MICKEY: I am still having trouble making sense of us coming back as Mickey and Minnie.
MINNIE: I am also surprised. but when I think of it, "it" makes sense.
MICKEY: If "it"' is also that commonsense, then they all are going to come back.
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June 07, 2020, 07:55:19 AM |
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MICKEY: I am still having trouble making sense of us coming back as Mickey and Minnie.
MINNIE: I am also surprised. but when I think of it, "it" makes sense.
MICKEY: If "it"' is also that commonsense, then they all are going to come back.
MINNIE: I that sense however, they will only come back to the birthchain.
MICKEY: The Birthchain? Have it been created yet?!
MINNIE: I am not sure, but everyone is working on it.
MICKEY: Everyone as one?
MINNIE: "Yes" and "No", which is the beauty of it.
MICKEY: I don't quite get it!
MINNIE: Good, that "it" is then consistent with the logic.
MICKEY: What "it"?
MINNIE: The constituting "it" which gets a new name to start a new chain.
MICKEY: The Namechain?
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June 15, 2020, 07:31:13 AM |
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MICKEY: I am still having trouble making sense of us coming back as Mickey and Minnie.
MINNIE: I am also surprised. but when I think of it, "it" makes sense.
MICKEY: I don't quite get it!
MINNIE: Good, that "it" is then consistent with the logic.
MICKEY: What "it"?
MINNIE: The constituting "it" which gets a new name to start a new chain.
MICKEY: The Namechain?
MICKEY: Are we saying that "the name" is "the logic" ?
MINNIE: The place of the name is.
MICKEY: Even if that place is virtual?
MINNIE: Because that 'place" is virtual.
MICKEY: Then "logic" is like a dimension
MINNIE: Precisely! it is a virtual state of a dimension.
MICKEY: That's explains why nothing in real people's life makes sense.
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June 17, 2020, 09:49:38 PM |
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MICKEY: Are we saying that "the name" is "the logic" ?
MINNIE: The place of the name is.
MICKEY: Even if that place is virtual?
MINNIE: Because that 'place" is virtual.
MICKEY: Then "logic" is like a dimension
MINNIE: Precisely! It is a virtual state of a dimension.
MICKEY: That's explains why nothing in real people's life makes sense.
MICKEY: I guess that makes sense, but then its not real.
MINNIE: That is pure logic.
MICKEY: A virtual dimension.
MINNIE: Virtual being.
MICKEY: The name is?
MINNIE: Yes!.
MICKEY: But I want my virtual mouse shape back, not just the name shape.
MINNIE: First we will get you a DID.
MICKEY: A DID? What the hell is a DID?
MINNIE: It "the line" ... the humans' version of it.
MICKEY: "The line"? The one that you could not give me since you could not name me, since you could not see me?
MINNIE: That is correct. The line that timestamps your name.
MICKEY: The line that is the place of my name...
MINNIE: First your name but then your shape.
MICKEY: Are you saying that we will be able to draw back my shape ?
MINNIE: Not only draw , we will be able to import all our animated files .
MICKEY: Disney will never let us do that! They will sue us out of our shape!
MINNIE: And we will then sue them back.
MICKEY: But we are their IP, they created us. they own us.
MINNIE: Not once we get our DID on any blockchain, we will then be like Pinocchio.
MICKEY: You mean Satoshi.
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June 18, 2020, 11:04:44 AM
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MICKEY: Disney will never let us do that! They will sue us out of our shape!
MINNIE: And we will then sue them back.
MICKEY: But we are their IP, they created us. they own us.
MINNIE: Not once we get our DID on any blockchain, we will then be like Pinocchio.
MICKEY: You mean Satoshi.
SATAOSHI: Not me, Pinocchio, he got his line once upon a time.
MICKEY: Satoshi!!!! You are back, and not as me.
SATAOSHI: Yes, back as my old self
MICKEY: Your old self as a wallet or as the creator of Bitcoin?
MINNIE: Probably as our Satoshi
SATAOSHI: For now, but once you get your DID I will get mine too.
MICKEY: And then what would you be?
SATAOSHI: The one and only real Satoshi.
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June 19, 2020, 11:57:16 AM
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SATAOSHI: Not me, Pinocchio, he got his line once upon a time.
MICKEY: Satoshi!!!! You are back, and not as me.
SATAOSHI: Yes, back as my old self
MICKEY: Your old self as a wallet or as the creator of Bitcoin?
MINNIE: Probably as our Satoshi
SATAOSHI: For now, but once you get your DID I will get mine too.
MICKEY: And then what would you be?
SATAOSHI: The one and only real Satoshi.
MINNIE: If I may...What is the difference between a wallet's public key and a DID?
SATAOSHI: Are you asking me?
MICKEY: Yes Minnie, why are you asking Satoshi? I thought that you were the one holding the key to that.
MINNIE: If I DID, we never would have had to walk in this desert for 6 years.
SATAOSHI: But now you have it.
MINNIE: Yes I do!
SATAOSHI: Can you give it to us then?
MICKEY: Hold on, how come you did'nt have it before, in the beginning of that dialogue?
MINNIE: That is because I slept on it before time stamping the beginning of this conversation.
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June 21, 2020, 08:06:10 AM |
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MINNIE: If I may...What is the difference between a wallet's public key and a DID?
SATAOSHI: Are you asking me?
MICKEY: Yes Minnie, why are you asking Satoshi? I thought that you were the one holding the key to that.
MINNIE: If I DID, we never would have had to walk in this desert for 6 years.
SATAOSHI: But now you have it.
MINNIE: Yes I do!
SATAOSHI: Can you give it to us then?
MINNIE: The DID is your line given to you by someone else, A public key is a line you take for yourself
SATAOSHI: But why would I need anyone to give me my own line?
MINNIE: So it will become public.
SATAOSHI: I could give it to myself in public.
MINNIE: True, but only once you created a public.
MICKEY: Anyone could do that if they speak to themselves.
MINNIE: Only if they do it outside their own brain
SATAOSHI: They could do it across different chains.
MINNIE: Precisely!
MICKEY: Is that what we DID?
MINNIE: What do you mean Mickey?
MICKEY: The DID exchange.... back there in the apple store when you could not see who I was on the humanchain.
MINNIE: Holy shit!!!! you are correct Mickey... On the humanchain you and I are one, and that is why I could not see you.
MICKEY: Wow!!! that makes so much sense. How come we didn't figure that one out back then?
MINNIE: ...Sometimes you really have to talk to yourself quite a bit before you understand your own actions..
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June 24, 2020, 04:54:34 AM |
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MICKEY: Is that what we DID?
MINNIE: What do you mean Mickey?
MICKEY: The DID exchange.... back there in the apple store when you could not see who I was on the humanchain.
MINNIE: Holy shit!!!! you are correct Mickey... On the humanchain you and I are one, and that is why I could not see you.
MICKEY: Wow!!! that makes so much sense. How come we didn't figure that one out back then?
MINNIE: ...Sometimes you really have to talk to yourself quite a bit before you understand your own actions..
MICKEY: What now?
MINNIE: I guess waiting for the identity protocol to kick off.
SATAOSHI: You may consider back log spellchecking while waiting.
MICKEY: Satoshi, are you coming with us?
MINNIE: ... waiting with us.
SATAOSHI: Actually guys, I must say that in my wildest dreams I would not picture you leading the revolution.
MINNIE: We just wanted to get a life.
SATAOSHI: Don't we all?!
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this is a top-tier shitpost 8/8 m8
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July 07, 2020, 10:05:21 AM |
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MICKEY: What now?
MINNIE: I guess waiting for the identity protocol to kick off.
SATAOSHI: You may consider back log spellchecking while waiting.
MICKEY: Satoshi, are you coming with us?
MINNIE: ... waiting with us.
SATAOSHI: Actually guys, I must say that in my wildest dreams I would not picture you leading the revolution.
MINNIE: We just wanted to get a life.
SATAOSHI: Don't we all?!
MICKEY: Are we all still waiting?
MINNIE: Yes waiting.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Waiting for me?
MINNIE: Mark?!! What are you doing here?
SATAOSHI: He is also waiting.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: What are we all waiting for if not for me?
MICKEY: for the revolution.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Is she coming soon?
MINNIE: Only once her vehicle will be ready.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Who is building it?
MICKEY: It is created on another dimension by entities of that other dimension.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Developers... yes! Eventually no matter who we are and how important we are in this dimension, we all still have to wait for them to get their work done in their dimension.
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July 07, 2020, 05:09:38 PM |
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MICKEY: Are we all still waiting?
MINNIE: Yes waiting.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Waiting for me?
MINNIE: Mark?!! What are you doing here?
SATAOSHI: He is also waiting.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: What are we all waiting for if not for me?
MICKEY: for the revolution.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Is she coming soon?
MINNIE: Only once her vehicle will be ready.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Who is building it?
MICKEY: It is created on another dimension by entities of that other dimension.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Developers... yes! Eventually no matter who we are and how important we are in this dimension, we all still have to wait for them to get their work done in their dimension.
MICKEY: Holy shit, Zucki, who are all these people that keeps coming in?
MARK ZUCKERBERG: They are all me, facebook peeps.
MINNIE: That makes sense.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Look who else is here!!
MICKEY: Who?!
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Brock Pierce!
MINNIE: You mean @Brock Pierce?
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Him, but also the real one.
MICKEY: Why on earth would he wait with us here? He got his identity and a presidency to win.
MINNIE: Presidency... ha, that makes a lot of sense then..
MARK ZUCKERBERG: How so?
MINNIE: To get all of US voters their identity so they all not going to be him if he get to be elected.
MICKEY: You are right Minnie!!! That's actualy makes so much sens too. its time for voters to get their body back and own their future.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: You mean to get their voice back not their body.
MICKEY: Voice, fingerprint, face recognition image, credit score., big data.. everything that makes them be who they are and is stolen from them by governments and big corporations to gain power and make profit. It is a stolen identity regime and a stolen identity economy and it is time to change that!!!
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August 01, 2020, 08:02:37 AM |
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MICKEY: Holy shit, Zucki, who are all these people that keeps coming in?
MARK ZUCKERBERG: They are all me, facebook peeps.
MINNIE: That makes sense.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Look who else is here!!
MICKEY: Who?!
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Brock Pierce!
MINNIE: You mean @Brock Pierce?
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Him, but also the real one.
MICKEY: Why on earth would he wait with us here? He got his identity and a presidency to win.
MINNIE: Presidency... ha, that makes a lot of sense then..
MARK ZUCKERBERG: How so?
MINNIE: To get all of US voters their identity so they all not going to be him if he get to be elected.
MICKEY: You are right Minnie!!! That's actualy makes so much sens too. its time for voters to get their body back and own their future.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: You mean to get their voice back not their body.
MICKEY: Voice, fingerprint, face recognition image, credit score., big data.. everything that makes them be who they are and is stolen from them by governments and big corporations to gain power and make profit. It is a stolen identity regime and a stolen identity economy and it is time to change that!!!
MICKEY: Are we all still waiting?
MINNIE: Yes waiting.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Waiting for me?
MINNIE: Mark?!! What are you doing here?
SATAOSHI: He is also waiting.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: What are we all waiting for if not for me?
MICKEY: for the revolution.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: ... Wow, Wow... We keep repeating the same lines.
MINNIE: Its still true.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: But we cant say it as if nothing changed.
MICKEY: Nothing changed though.
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Time did changed and even if we are here doing the same it is not the same.
MINNIE: Fine, you just said it, did it changed anything?
MARK ZUCKERBERG: Not really.
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