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October 09, 2014, 09:22:06 PM
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What, however, is the significance of this matter of "danger?"

I'd guess uncertainty [proves] danger [therewithin], and that [that proves] a lesson to be learned [about] uncertainty/danger Itself.
In truth, then, I tell you, there is no matter there.
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October 10, 2014, 06:33:53 PM
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Let's break this nonsense down into its parts:

Negativity is a manifestation of consciousness, positivity. E=MC^2 demonstrates this.  Energy is exponentially denser and more powerful than matter.

Yes, negativity is a manifestation of consciousness, as is positivity. The universe has no subjective state. The universe is, and we assign values to it. E=MC^2 does not demonstrate what you say. That's like saying 'everything negative comes from my brain, and the Pythagorean Theorem proves this.' Well, no, it doesn't.


All matter is created by consciousness.  

No, matter predated consciousness.

A couple examples that demonstrate this are motion and dreams.

Motion is the application of energy, and dreams are not tangible. Neither one of them is matter. Neither one of them are examples of how matter is created by consciousness.


For motion to begin with no source of energy to first exert motion is physically impossible.  

This is not true. All matter/energy that will ever exist was seeded by the Big Bang. Therefore, all motion was made possible from the energy released during the Big Bang.

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.  

Call it a "miracle" or whatever synonym you want. One thing it would be incorrect to call it is "consciousness."

Let's say the universe has been in constant motion for all eternity and wasn't spawned from one instance

Let's not say this, because it's not accurate. The universe was spawned in one instance and has been in motion for as long as it has existed. That's an accurate thing you could say.

Add consciousness to the equation.  Unless you believe humans are robotic reactionary magnets bouncing through space with no intellect or freewill, humans require a consciousness to hold intelligence and give freewill.  But this is not exclusive to humans, thinking so is quite egocentric.  

All completely irrelevant to the Big Bang and the universe. You know what else is irrelevant to? Adding milk. Instead of adding consciousness to the equation, let's add milk. It makes just as much sense.

Humans came from earth, so in order for humans to have consciousness, earth must hold the same consciousness, just as the animals and plants do as well.

This is bullshit. Earth doesn't have consciousness. Earth is an inanimate object. Animals have consciousness because they have a brain. Except for limited instances in certain species, animals have a consciousness without self-awareness. Plants do not have a consciousness or self-awareness. Maybe we should try adding milk?

Science reinforces this and that plants are indeed aware of their surroundings.

This is something you just made up. Science is very pissed you're defaming it. I hear it's thinking about suing you for slander. This is something you should be worried about, because unlike the rest of us, you believe that inanimate objects have consciousness, and therefore, the reality that science might actually sue you for slander should be a very real possibility.

8So if humans are intelligent beings, earth is a conscious host cell that we inhabit.  

False conclusion based on nonexistent equivalency. Why don't we instead say "If humans have fingers, pushups like the color purple." The conclusion is just as valid, and just as unconnected to the premise.

And if earth is a conscious host cell, then the star dust it is composed of must also be conscious.

Already established it's not, but why not add in another unrelated conclusion. So now we have, "If humans have fingers, pushups like the color purple. If pushups like the color purple, then the colors red and blue, which make purple, must also have fingers."

Dreams further prove humans are conscious beings and not willless flesh robots pinballing through a game of fate endlessly.

This was never in question. No one was maintaining this. You've successfully concluded something nobody was arguing against.

Matter is a lower dimensional occurrences consciousness has created in order to experience itself from a foreign perspective of negativity and division, rather than positivity and unity.  

Matter exists outside consciousness. It always has. It always will. The rest of this sentence is a string of words that when put in their current order have no meaning. Except to milk. Milk likes that sentence very much.

Negativity is a necessary part of experiencing this world of 3D space and death, but it is not a necessary trait of existence, while positivity is, as it is endless.  Negativity cannot possibly result in an energy of a higher density or power.  Matter is incapable of replicating an energy of a higher dimension.

Milk likes this too, as it's all devoid of meaning. This sentence doesn't mean anything. It's kinda like saying Milkity milk milk milky milk. Of course, milk loves that sentence, but it has no meaning. Mmmmm, milk.

Negativity is the creation of love, consciousness.  Satan is merely a deep illusion god has created to perceive self from a different perspective, for if negativity never existed, we'd always be a singular point of infinite love.

Even though this statement is coherent, it's self-contradictory to itself. "If negativity never existed, we'd always be a singular point of infinite love."  -You.  Then, "Negativity is the creation of love." -Also, you. So according to you, only love would exist without negativity, but love comes from negativity, so we have to stop being negative so we can have more love, but we have to be negative in order to create love.

Do you see the logical inconsistencies with this single statement? It's a microcosm of all your posts.

TL;DR: Everything you said is milk.

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The universe is us.  It is constantly subjective to our perceptions.

You're not placed into the universe, you create the universe.  Your mind creates everything you see.  The rest is just light waves, energy.

You say consciousness creates negativity but not matter, I ask, what is the difference?


Where does the initial application of energy come from?

Dreams aren't tangible?  Of course they are.  Dreams can be more real than reality here.  Many don't remember their dreams due to their life patterns making it difficult to hold their consciousness in and out of sleep.

The fact that you can't take back items from dreams shows the limitations of lower dimensional material plane.  You can however bring experiences from this life back into the fourth dimension, your dream world.  This further shows consciousness is the creator of matter, as you do so when you dream.  Matter cannot create consciousness, it can only replicate it.


The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.

You are the big bang, you are the creation and the creator of all.

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Let's not say this, because it's not accurate. The universe was spawned in one instance and has been in motion for as long as it has existed. That's an accurate thing you could say.

What are you measuring accuracy by?  Logical truth or authority?

This premise is based on the flawed conclusions of time as conceived from are humanoid perception of linear growth.  We see the world change in a line, as of we are scrolling through the reel of a film.  Therefor, many conclude that existence follows the same linear timescale that is present on earth.

But this is a misconception of time.  Time is simply a measurement we created to count cycles.  It's not a set thing, you may see this if you experience your perception of time to go faster as many are experiencing as earth evolves.

All we have is now.  Time is not linear, we constantly bend through a single instance forever.

Infinity can be a hard concept to understand, but it is only a logical universal truth.  Humans largely exercise their 'thinking' part of the brain due to societal conditioning from how we are taught, to the food we consume, TV people watch and alcohol people consume.  Also add that fluoridated water calcifies your pineal gland into a rock.  Your pineal gland is your third eye, what allows you to dream.  The seat of the soul.  It's difficult to connect to an infinite perception of consciousness when your brain is disconnected from the gland responsible for such.  Gratefully, there are things you can do to change that.  Drink clean spring water, eat organic food, remove harmful substances from your life, even try sungazing into the sun as it sets over the horizon.  Eating certain vegetables and removing meat (especially factory farmed) from your diet will help decalcify it too.  Meditation and even some types of crystals will help activate your third eye.

You will get into great shape in the process.

Why is it good for you to sacrifices what you crave today?  When your brain becomes attached enough, your consciousness will hold great spiritual power and peace.  You can retain your consciousness as you fall asleep and consciously live in dreams.  They become heaven.  I am undergoing the process of wake dreaming l, I see them faintly before I fall asleep.  I am not holding my consciousness fully but dreams are becoming incredibly vivid.  Once I complete the life style changes above, the process onset much more rapidly with meditation.

All that it takes to become an illuminated being is spiritual intention and positive karma/a healthy life pattern.  Toxic foods and energies hold your vibrational frequency down, love sets it free.  The higher you resonate, the more you can do.

Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.

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Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.
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The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.
You've said it YET AGAIN. Proof your just rambling on and not listening to anyone else. (See quotes below.) LOL Cheesy

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.
But the big bang theory doesn't propose everything came from nothing.

I've told you this before. Naturally, in true Dank style, you only believe what suits you and ignore everything else.

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World War III has already begun; Czech newspaper


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Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.
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The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.
You've said it YET AGAIN. Proof your just rambling on and not listening to anyone else. (See quotes below.) LOL Cheesy

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.
But the big bang theory doesn't propose everything came from nothing.

I've told you this before. Naturally, in true Dank style, you only believe what suits you and ignore everything else.

I'm typing on a phone.

I'm saying the same thing in different context in hopes you will better understand it.  You seem to be the one rambling to me.

You say the big bang doesn't say something came from nothing, but that is the exact model that is being taught around the world.  Why not explain why if you truly feel that way?

The big bang proposes spontaneous creation of a universe and I am asserting that the universe is in complete order at all times.  It is a perfect balance of energies.

In regards to your last statement, you just pulled out one sentence of my last post to apply a logical fallacy to it while ignoring the rest of my post.

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Sorry I can't go over your whole post, I am on a phone.
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The current big bang model is flawed beyond recognition.  Something cannot come from nothing. Something can come from everything.  If you see the polarity of these words, you'll see they're mathematically true statements.
You've said it YET AGAIN. Proof your just rambling on and not listening to anyone else. (See quotes below.) LOL Cheesy

If you believe everything was created from nothing, as the big bang proposes, then it would take nothing short of a miracle, consciousness.
But the big bang theory doesn't propose everything came from nothing.

I've told you this before. Naturally, in true Dank style, you only believe what suits you and ignore everything else.

I'm typing on a phone.

I'm saying the same thing in different context in hopes you will better understand it.  You seem to be the one rambling to me.

You say the big bang doesn't say something came from nothing, but that is the exact model that is being taught around the world.  Why not explain why if you truly feel that way?

The big bang proposes spontaneous creation of a universe and I am asserting that the universe is in complete order at all times.  It is a perfect balance of energies.

In regards to your last statement, you just pulled out one sentence of my last post to apply a logical fallacy to it while ignoring the rest of my post.

The big bang theory proposes that matter was always there, it was just compressed, then suddenly expanded.
There was no something from nothing. The something was there all along.

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And what caused it's expansion?

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You say the big bang doesn't say something came from nothing, but that is the exact model that is being taught around the world. 

Nonsense.  It's taught that all matter was condensed into a incredibly small particle with incredibly high density.

You never took physics in high school Sean.  You may have attended, but I doubt you were "there".

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m8, one does not simply come to Politics&Society and tell us to stop discussing politics Cheesy

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OP you provide some very nice thoughts - do you meditate?
I see many things like you, but i think i am not so optimistic in some of them. You say that those institutions want us to fear them by seeding images of fear but right now i see more and more people getting ANGRY. They want to step up but are still kind of lethargic. Maybe, the truth is between those many opinions. Maybe, there isn't anybody that manipulates us as stated. But maybe, there is someone with intentions that we still don't know. I think, the truth is very versatile. People can choose what they concentrate on and if we don't choose to concentrate on a better world, then we simply will not have even an imagination of how a better world will look like. I like many thoughts from youtube videos of "Joe Dispenza" who says that the simple and repetitive imagination of an alternative world or state of mind creates new connections in the brain that will just act as if they were caused by a "real environment". People should concentrate on the better stuff but don't forget our environment and boundaries in order to be able to actually change something. Bitcoin is a good point in order to meet people who are ready for change although i am pretty sure that the future just begins with new stuff like Gridcoin where you support progress of humanity. I also hope that the main idea of bitcoin will find its place in democracy (e.g. by using blockchain). Sry for my bad english. Peace to all!


Than you brother.

I have meditated most with the assistance of psychedelics, though I will begin meditating consciously soon when I have the environment to do so.

I see fear and anger being derived from the same energy of ego/negativity.

I feel like the best thing we can do is act.  If we collectively make a free society, then that's it, you're free.  Those who feel peace will find peace and protection in life.  Synchronicity aligns you with the universe.  And the universe is love, god wants you to win.

And a side thought, thinking with your brain means nothing if you don't feel with your heart.

Peace friend

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And what caused it's expansion?
We don't know, and probably never will.

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October 12, 2014, 03:55:37 PM
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dank, you need to respect the rights of others to talk about correcting a bad situation, even if it means fighting fire with fire. In an idealish world, your ideas would be okay. But when there are crooks who never even read what you have to say, and who would ignore all your wonderful peace if they read it...

Well, maybe you are happy with the idea of someone coming and stealing your motorcycle and your computer, and maybe executing you in the bargain, but I am not happy with that kind of an idea for me!

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dank, you need to respect the rights of others to talk about correcting a bad situation, even if it means fighting fire with fire. In an idealish world, your ideas would be okay. But when there are crooks who never even read what you have to say, and who would ignore all your wonderful peace if they read it...

Well, maybe you are happy with the idea of someone coming and stealing your motorcycle and your computer, and maybe executing you in the bargain, but I am not happy with that kind of an idea for me!

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+1

every act of free will has secondary+ effects (i.e. your resulting predestination)

Stay vigilant & virtuous, brothers. Remember that we are all each others' lessons eventually to be learned as the merriest jokes Smiley So we listen harder, so that we don't always have to be the butt of one

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October 12, 2014, 11:30:06 PM
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dank, you need to respect the rights of others to talk about correcting a bad situation, even if it means fighting fire with fire. In an idealish world, your ideas would be okay. But when there are crooks who never even read what you have to say, and who would ignore all your wonderful peace if they read it...

Well, maybe you are happy with the idea of someone coming and stealing your motorcycle and your computer, and maybe executing you in the bargain, but I am not happy with that kind of an idea for me!

Smiley

I didn't say don't stand up for yourself.  I said stop discussing their acts of terror they commit to petrify the world in fear.

Those who truly are at peace don't have to worry about some stealing their motorcycle or executing them.  They align their spirit with the universe and the universe aligns them with synchronicity.

So long as your purpose is to serve the universe positively, the universe will look after you.

The law attraction says negative minded people will attract negative experiences and people, while positive people attract other positives.  Your reality matches that of which your frequency resonates.

If we keep focusing on what we fear, such as war, it will keep manifesting into life.  If we focus on the awakening of consciousness and self-awareness earth is encountering, it will proliferate into reality faster.  If you want a positive life or a positive world, all you must do is look at the positives.

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There is no need to discuss war or the vastly great, illusive, power of the government.

By speaking of the government and their doings, you are giving them power, you are manifesting their control over reality into existence.

Your thoughts create your reality.  The truth is, the government does not rule the world, you do.  We control everything about this world as individuals in a collective.

Stop focusing on what you perceive to be negative and it will stop manifesting in life.

The world is turning into a beautiful place.  Unless you believe the government can convince their armies to slaughter every child that stands on this earth, there is no reason to fear the future.  We are the future.

Humans forgot how to live as a child even as they age.  Let go of the past and live in the moment of now.  Each day is a new day.  What made us young as children was the light we each held as we entered this earth.

Regain that light by bettering your physical and mental self and others around you.

If you wish to end the horror you see in the world, all we must do is spread the light from ourselves to one another.  We do not need to fight.  All we need is love.  Love spreads endlessly.

LOL! Yes, lets stop talking politics and war, lets ignore whats happening in the world and bury our heads in the sand.  These things need to be discussed so we learn, and we need to try and keep the government accountable for their actions.  Then again, you refuse to work, pay back your debts, and make a mockery of the system.  So I doubt it matters to you what the government does.

People can choose to ignore whats really going on, but those are the people that usually end up homeless and depend on others to survive.
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Those who truly are at peace don't have to worry about some stealing their motorcycle or executing them.  They align their spirit with the universe and the universe aligns them with synchronicity.

So long as your purpose is to serve the universe positively, the universe will look after you.


So you are saying squall isn't at peace?  Squall is a negative on the universe?

It didn't stop you from stealing $60,000 from him.   Undecided

The six year old girl you raped - did she deserve it?  Were you serving the universe?

Your posts make NO sense.

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The revolution will not be physical, it will be spiritual.

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The revolution will not be physical, it will be spiritual.
Define "spirit."

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