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October 07, 2014, 06:02:34 PM
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I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

So you don't want to be trusted at all?  Because who is going to trust an angry guy with a chip on his shoulder who yells at everybody and can't control himself?

Yeah i wanted to be trusted. thats kinda what this whole thing is about. I am angry because i'm under attack for what i perceive to be minor. Now my reputation contains negative feedbacks, i am ruined.

The whole thing is about you not realising the irony and contradiction of wanting to buy feedback to become trusted. Your account isn't ruined, but it's pretty badly tarnished but you could still get rid of those negatives one way or another, but you haven't done yourself any favours and have continued to dig yourself deeper into a hole that you may now never be able to get out of (or at least it's going to be a very big struggle).

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What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?

You've already admitted several times you wanted the feedback merely for the trust and to appear trustworthy - that is buying trust whether you're willing to admit it or not.

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October 07, 2014, 06:48:27 PM
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I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

So you don't want to be trusted at all?  Because who is going to trust an angry guy with a chip on his shoulder who yells at everybody and can't control himself?

Yeah i wanted to be trusted. thats kinda what this whole thing is about. I am angry because i'm under attack for what i perceive to be minor.

No, you are angry because you don't know how to control yourself in the face of adversity, or learn from your negative experiences.

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Now my reputation contains negative feedbacks, i am ruined.

Oh, don't be such a drama queen.  I gave you a lot of helpful information about how to build a real, good reputation.  You could expend the effort, or you could whine about it.

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October 07, 2014, 07:01:37 PM
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I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

So you don't want to be trusted at all?  Because who is going to trust an angry guy with a chip on his shoulder who yells at everybody and can't control himself?

Yeah i wanted to be trusted. thats kinda what this whole thing is about. I am angry because i'm under attack for what i perceive to be minor. Now my reputation contains negative feedbacks, i am ruined.

I was giving you full benefit of the doubt until you started backtracking and saying:
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I wasn't trying to buy trust . jesus get it through your head

And now here you are saying "Yeah I wanted to be trusted."

One of those two statements is dishonest.    Best of luck, though!  My advice would be to apologize.  To me, this certainly wouldn't be a reason to not trust you indefinitely if you demonstrate trust in other ways. 

Bottom line is that nobody here knows for certain what your intentions are/would be if you were successful in buying positive feedback, but I think there's a good chance you were just trying to be creative in building your trust more quickly.  There are a lot of reasons that someone would want to do this that don't involve scamming others.

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October 07, 2014, 07:18:35 PM
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My advice would be to apologize.  To me, this certainly wouldn't be a reason to not trust you indefinitely if you demonstrate trust in other ways.

I agree!  This can be just a mistake to look back on.

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October 07, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
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What is the big sin here? i simply stipulated the terms of my agreement. I fail to see why this is such a controversial an issue? People make trades and leave feedback all the time. Why am i not allowed to stipulate that in a deal?
Because you were trading to make your trust go up, not do regular trades and have your trust go up by effect like the system is for.  One means you're legitimate, one means the exact opposite.
I disagree, but i guess that i have no choice but fall in line, with all of you web bullies forcing my hand. What can i do from here? How do i get the negative trusts removed and start over? is it possible to get a second chance

Your previous posts had made it clear that your only intention of conducting this $5 paypal trade was to obtain positive trust from trusted members. Conducting a trade just to gain positive trust is generally seen as "buying trust". Let's say you did not know this was frowned upon, the correct thing would be to politely message the person who let you negative feedback. You did the exact opposite by crying and insulting people in multiple threads.

You should really listen to the people trying to help you. Don't be so adamant and try looking at your behavior from a different perspective.
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October 07, 2014, 08:45:31 PM
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ok, i'm sorry.

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October 07, 2014, 08:56:27 PM
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ok, i'm sorry.

A nice start to see Smiley

BTW, if you're interested, I'd exchange a litecoin for an equivalent amount of BTC later this evening.

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October 07, 2014, 08:57:50 PM
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ok, i'm sorry.

A nice start to see Smiley

BTW, if you're interested, I'd exchange a litecoin for an equivalent amount of BTC later this evening.

i don't have enough btc for a whole ltc yet. i have only .007 btc

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October 07, 2014, 10:02:01 PM
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i want to trade with reputable members only so i don't get scammed!

When I don't want to be scammed (i.e. always) I trade with any member, reputable or not, but use a trustless escrow (e.g. bitescrow.org). Trading with a reputable member means nothing, as reputation doesn't guarantee that I won't be scammed.

how can i do escrow with paypal?
You can't, it can be charged back for months.

I was thinking of finding reputable hero members and asking them to do trades with me. i would send first, proving i am trustworthy. Really i just want it for bragging rights. My friends at work will be jealous of my green trust rating
You made it pretty clear you were trying to artificially inflate your trust, it backfired.  gg

cooldgamer, i submit to you an public apology, and humbly beg you to remove the negative trust. It is true i wanted to get some positive trust quickly, and i suppose that means i tried to buy it,and i did ignore the warnings from KWH about doing so. I would have admitted it but for fear of being crucified and labeled as a scammer. I do not feel like it was that big of a deal, but nonetheless: I apologize and i will not do it again. I am also apologetic for calling you mean names. i have no excuse for doing so. please forgive me and remove the negative trust. i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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October 07, 2014, 10:06:18 PM
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i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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Why wouldn't you remove your negative trust now, as a show of good faith?  How old are you?

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October 07, 2014, 10:06:56 PM
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i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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Why wouldn't you remove your negative trust now, as a show of good faith?  How old are you?

Because i'm not a pushover.

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October 08, 2014, 01:14:43 AM
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ok, i'm sorry.

Good first step.  ATM it looks like your trust rating might have improved, too.

Somebody earlier posted a good quote about when you find yourself in a hole the first thing to do is to stop digging.  That is really good advice!  It has served me well in life!

Later on I suggest you reread these entire threads.  You'll find you may not remember everything you said and did.  When you are angry you really are temporarily insane.  You have to ask yourself how well temporary insanity serves you in life when you have problems.  It doesn't!  When you feel that way, pretty much everything you are thinking of doing or saying is going to make your problem worse - so do nothing until you calm down.  There are relaxation therapies you can undertake that will teach you how to stay calm and relax when something upsets you.

Sorry for all my unsolicited advice.  I know it might not be welcome.  But it's served me well in life, and if your goal is to have a trusted reputation in any enterprise, I think this will help.

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October 08, 2014, 02:13:25 AM
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i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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Why wouldn't you remove your negative trust now, as a show of good faith?  How old are you?
"BTCTalkAccounts" ring a bell? how about your involvement with Blazr and his scams. remember that?

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October 08, 2014, 02:25:48 AM
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Here's a great article I read recently that might be helpful to you:

http://tucker.liberty.me/2014/09/24/how-to-be-a-great-employee/

The author of the article was once told he was "useless."  Watch his response carefully and see if it benefited him or not.

I strongly encourage reading that article! Smiley

This one by the same author is also good advice for someone seeking to build a positive reputation:

http://mises.org/daily/4547

Use proven methods to build a high opinion of yourself in the eyes of others, and you won't have to worry about your numeric rating in an online system.

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October 08, 2014, 06:45:08 AM
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i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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Why wouldn't you remove your negative trust now, as a show of good faith?  How old are you?

Because i'm not a pushover.

Perhaps what I'd do is remove the negative trust you gave them and PM saying you're sorry and asking them to remove the negative feedback they've given you.
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October 08, 2014, 06:54:04 AM
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i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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Why wouldn't you remove your negative trust now, as a show of good faith?  How old are you?

Because i'm not a pushover.

Perhaps what I'd do is remove the negative trust you gave them and PM saying you're sorry and asking them to remove the negative feedback they've given you.

Because he's not a pushover apparently, which of course means that he's too stubborn to do so and wants the feedback removed on his own terms, which obviously isn't going to work out that way.

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October 08, 2014, 09:26:18 AM
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i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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Why wouldn't you remove your negative trust now, as a show of good faith?  How old are you?

Because i'm not a pushover.

You must work hard for it !
Convince him !

Start from yourself , remove your negative feedback from someone you left on it
and wait a good response from them  Roll Eyes
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October 08, 2014, 11:24:42 AM
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i will remove mine from you as well if you will do me that one favor.

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Why wouldn't you remove your negative trust now, as a show of good faith?  How old are you?

Because i'm not a pushover.

Perhaps what I'd do is remove the negative trust you gave them and PM saying you're sorry and asking them to remove the negative feedback they've given you.
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Apologize? for doing nothing wrong? yeah, ok

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October 08, 2014, 11:28:13 AM
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But you just apologised:

ok, i'm sorry.

Why apologise if you feel you haven't done anything wrong? You did several things wrong whether you want to admit it or not, mainly trying to buy trust then acting like a child about the whole situation, but it doesn't look like you're going to be able to drop this stubbornness so nothing will change here.

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October 08, 2014, 11:36:25 AM
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But you just apologised:

ok, i'm sorry.

Why apologise if you feel you haven't done anything wrong? You did several things wrong whether you want to admit it or not, mainly trying to buy trust then acting like a child about the whole situation, but it doesn't look like you're going to be able to drop this stubbornness so nothing will change here.

I apologized for calling him a name, that does not mean i will be walked over, so gtfo with your bullshit. i don't care. I feel strongly that i did not doing anything wrong in the situation. That hasn't changed. I conceded the point and apologized to cooldgamer and to devthedev, so basically i am acknowledging that you would not allow me to stipulate that positive trust must be received in a trade(you deem this is buying trust, matter of opinion i guess, but whatever. your iq of 150 is clearly superior to mine). I am not admitting that i did anything untrustworthy, because I DID NOT. I am not admitting to buying trust, because THAT WAS NOT THE POINT. Kinda just threw that in there at the last second. I am still mad, true but whatever. You faggots win, so congratulations, here's your prize. My middle finger bitch! sit on it and spin. wait you'd probably like that.

Now back to cooldgamer and devthedev. i apologized to them.One removed feedback, one did not. cooldgamer did not. Now Vod has decided to leave me a trust as a way to pile on the fire and join in the trolling. Vod will remove this trust or his role in helping Blazr cover up his scams will be revealed, that's all there is to it. Should cooldgamer decide to leave the trust rating, so be it.

Oh, and pussy ass fuck boy, there is a difference between being stubborn and standing your ground. I'm not gonna take any shit, so go try that logic on someone dumb enough to accept it.

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