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October 07, 2014, 07:58:30 PM
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Ahahah I think that I will buy at 290 $ ( or at least I hope ).  Dump it !

My bids are ranged down to $271. Would be insanely happy if some whale eats them all Smiley
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October 07, 2014, 08:04:28 PM
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You've seen a couple of mine I'm sure. I've opened/closed 40 shorts of this size and only 2 long positions the past 13 days. The real way to get cheap coins isn't buying low, its shorting the whole way down.

Trade  Opened     OpenPrice   Direction  Size    Deposit  Stop     Trail   Limit     Closed      losePrice    Liquidate    FundingCost TradeFee     Profit
 37   2014-10-06 11:XX:XX   341.12506  Sell   0.0250  1.03222   372.12506    -    -   2014-10-07 06:5X:XX   322.60385    user                  0.00000000  0.10236900    0.48961357
  36   2014-10-06 11:XX:XX   343.00175  Sell  0.0500  2.07521   374.00175    -    -   2014-10-07 06:5X:XX   322.60790    user                  0.00000000  0.20580600    1.08415297
  35   2014-10-06 11:XX:XX   337.15309  Sell  0.0300  1.22767   368.15309    -    -   2014-10-07 07:0X:XX   314.95000    user                  0.00000000  0.12175200    0.71305036


Direction    Leverage    ฿/$    Open    Stop    Trail    Limit    Deposit    Size (฿)    Funding Cost    Profit/Loss (฿)    Action    
Sell    10:1    0.03    329.02    360.02          1.19583    9.88290    0.05922    0.04363    
Sell    10:1    0.04    329.26    360.26          1.59430    13.17600    0.07902    0.06799    



SELL SELL SELL  Cheesy
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October 07, 2014, 08:13:20 PM
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SELL SELL SELL BUY BUY BUY repeat Smiley
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October 07, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
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SELL SELL SELL BUY BUY BUY repeat Smiley

Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down!  Angry
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October 07, 2014, 08:48:42 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

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BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading
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October 07, 2014, 09:13:25 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

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BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading


Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here
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October 07, 2014, 09:15:23 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

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BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading




Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

Me too , I don't think this is a simple market trading ... this is a manipulation from an earlty miner/adopter . ( I'm not sure at 100%).
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October 07, 2014, 09:43:19 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

ftfy Smiley


BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading




Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

Me too , I don't think this is a simple market trading ... this is a manipulation from an earlty miner/adopter . ( I'm not sure at 100%).

Trust me this is somebody who just got into the game... Miners have been dumping slowly & very few hold but some do.
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October 07, 2014, 09:50:56 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

ftfy Smiley


BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading




Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

Me too , I don't think this is a simple market trading ... this is a manipulation from an earlty miner/adopter . ( I'm not sure at 100%).

Trust me this is somebody who just got into the game... Miners have been dumping slowly & very few hold but some do.


Early miner is like saying  early adopters , only  a couple of them can do this .
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October 07, 2014, 10:20:29 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

ftfy Smiley


BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading




Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

Me too , I don't think this is a simple market trading ... this is a manipulation from an earlty miner/adopter . ( I'm not sure at 100%).

Trust me this is somebody who just got into the game... Miners have been dumping slowly & very few hold but some do.


Early miner is like saying  early adopters , only  a couple of them can do this .

Anyone with a few million dollars can do this again & again & again!
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October 07, 2014, 10:34:40 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

ftfy Smiley


BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading


Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

ATH from the last bubble should not be considered real value (at least not at the time it happened), that also had elements of manipulation.  Don't get me wrong, I don't like shorting, but all those shorts have to be closed at some point.  When the price finally starts going up they will have to close and as a result it will move faster Smiley

Long term trend is up, protocol is working, this is just the beginning.  It just takes nerves and patience, like raising a child.
The difference is, it will not give the same returns in the same amount of time that those lucky very early adopters had.
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October 07, 2014, 10:48:41 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

ftfy Smiley


BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading


Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

ATH from the last bubble should not be considered real value (at least not at the time it happened), that also had elements of manipulation.  Don't get me wrong, I don't like shorting, but all those shorts have to be closed at some point.  When the price finally starts going up they will have to close and as a result it will move faster Smiley

Long term trend is up, protocol is working, this is just the beginning.  It just takes nerves and patience, like raising a child.
The difference is, it will not give the same returns in the same amount of time that those lucky very early adopters had.

Everything you said is correct & great! But when you said long term trend is up....... wtf??? Huh Huh
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October 07, 2014, 11:13:03 PM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

ftfy Smiley


BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading


Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

ATH from the last bubble should not be considered real value (at least not at the time it happened), that also had elements of manipulation.  Don't get me wrong, I don't like shorting, but all those shorts have to be closed at some point.  When the price finally starts going up they will have to close and as a result it will move faster Smiley

Long term trend is up, protocol is working, this is just the beginning.  It just takes nerves and patience, like raising a child.
The difference is, it will not give the same returns in the same amount of time that those lucky very early adopters had.

Everything you said is correct & great! But when you said long term trend is up....... wtf??? Huh Huh

What I meant was we will have a new ATH sooner or later, preferably sooner.
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October 07, 2014, 11:20:49 PM
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Everything you said is correct & great! But when you said long term trend is up....... wtf??? Huh Huh

You know this too, but you cannot agree on public as you are (leverage?) shorting now Wink
Just give it up because big traders never make decisions judging by the opinions on this forum. Don't worry, we will see big tasty dips soon and we will take our profit from them. Just don't try catching tops or bottoms.
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October 08, 2014, 12:20:44 AM
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Only because these horrible manipulators are driving the price down... Obviously we need to join them just so we don't lose all our funds on the way down/up/down/up/down/up!  >Smiley

ftfy Smiley


BTW, these manipulations have a name - market trading


Um no BTC didn't just lose over 70% of its value because of just market trading... Lets be serious here

ATH from the last bubble should not be considered real value (at least not at the time it happened), that also had elements of manipulation.  Don't get me wrong, I don't like shorting, but all those shorts have to be closed at some point.  When the price finally starts going up they will have to close and as a result it will move faster Smiley

Long term trend is up, protocol is working, this is just the beginning.  It just takes nerves and patience, like raising a child.
The difference is, it will not give the same returns in the same amount of time that those lucky very early adopters had.

Everything you said is correct & great! But when you said long term trend is up....... wtf??? Huh Huh

What I meant was we will have a new ATH sooner or later, preferably sooner.


I doubt this, since the current all time high was created by the mt gox willy bot... I don't think we can see an advancement that big until a stick of gum is $10

Everything you said is correct & great! But when you said long term trend is up....... wtf??? Huh Huh

You know this too, but you cannot agree on public as you are (leverage?) shorting now Wink
Just give it up because big traders never make decisions judging by the opinions on this forum. Don't worry, we will see big tasty dips soon and we will take our profit from them. Just don't try catching tops or bottoms.

That's right we need to forget about bottoms and tops! But overall you can't deny BTC has been in a downtrend since it hit that $1,200 mark
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October 08, 2014, 12:49:46 AM
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I doubt this, since the current all time high was created by the mt gox willy bot... I don't think we can see an advancement that big until a stick of gum is $10

This statement is wrong. I remember those days and price was pushed by Chinese exchanges. Willy Bot was working on MtGox only and its pressure was insignificant.

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That's right we need to forget about bottoms and tops! But overall you can't deny BTC has been in a downtrend since it hit that $1,200 mark

Downtrends follow all the bubbles. The same happened in 2011 and 2013 and all of them were recovered.
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October 08, 2014, 01:57:30 AM
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I doubt this, since the current all time high was created by the mt gox willy bot... I don't think we can see an advancement that big until a stick of gum is $10

This statement is wrong. I remember those days and price was pushed by Chinese exchanges. Willy Bot was working on MtGox only and its pressure was insignificant.

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That's right we need to forget about bottoms and tops! But overall you can't deny BTC has been in a downtrend since it hit that $1,200 mark

Downtrends follow all the bubbles. The same happened in 2011 and 2013 and all of them were recovered.

Lmfao why are you in denial... Mt gox was always 100-180$ above the other exchanges because it was "purchasing" bitcoin from many different addresses who all purchased approx. $2.5m in all purchases. Blatant manipulation, look it up man. Downtrends follow all bubbles yes, but notice nobody says a bubble follows a downtrend, because its RARE
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October 08, 2014, 05:25:57 AM
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Still can't breakt this downward trend... should be some nice bull action if we pass 331!
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October 08, 2014, 05:58:13 AM
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Friday will be a big sell day, that's when people can sell the coins bought cheap this past weekend on Coinbase,  they are available Friday by end of day. There were so many coins bought Sunday through Coinbase that they ran out of coins to sell.
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October 08, 2014, 10:42:07 AM
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Lmfao why are you in denial... Mt gox was always 100-180$ above the other exchanges because it was "purchasing" bitcoin from many different addresses who all purchased approx. $2.5m in all purchases. Blatant manipulation, look it up man. Downtrends follow all bubbles yes, but notice nobody says a bubble follows a downtrend, because its RARE

Since summer 2013 almost everyone realized that Gox is playing with non-existing coins and only idiots continued trading with them.. Just to lose everything.
I'm not sure if we have bubble soon, but now chances to stay above $300 are much higher than before. Even if we don't have a bubble this or the next year, price may at least keep its level with slight grow due to natural adoption.
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