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January 24, 2018, 07:44:26 AM
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Awesome stuff is going on here, awesome audit report!

I applaud the audit, but how many people actually read it?  Stand out items:  no mathematical analysis performed on involved cryptographic algorithms and methods (outside the scope of the audit); Cloaking transactions with few cloakers can be traced, both sender and receiver; reliance on out of date bitcoin and Tor code; random number generator doesn't really work for enigma transactions; source code analysis found multiple instances of reliance out out-of-date and unsafe methods, transaction history stored in an unencrypted format.  Compromise of Anonymity is flagged as a current "high" severity risk factor on cloak transactions with, say, three cloakers.  It is susceptible to a DLL preload attack; page 17 describes the issues resulting from using old and out of date Bitcoin code base; page 20 addresses how the Tor code is out of date and vulnerable to a list of exploits; page 21 several functions found in the source code which leave Cloak vulnerable to buffer overflow attacks.  You can't back up the wallet using the currently accepted best practice of using a seed phrase.  I'll stop there.  To the people that are saying "wow!" I ask again:  did you read the audit report?

The Cloak team replies to a number of these identified shortcomings by simply stating that in the future an upgrade of the wallet software will address these issues.  I hope so.

+1 for the audit, but it seems there is still quite a bit of work to be done to make this world class.

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January 24, 2018, 07:45:45 AM
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This is an interesting coin however I had bigger expectations from the audit. Face it, literally the only "positive" thing it mentioned was a sandwich phrase saying that the "basic mechanisms are quite robust" but after that it is all just hammering a large number of specific negative points, some of which do not correspond with the whitepaper.

I understand that lot of us hold bags but can we please be a bit more realistic and not sell this report as a great success?

I think you misunderstand what an audit is used for. An audit is made to find bugs in the software before it goes live! The idea behind an audit is to make a software product more secure and better. And exactly this is what the audit report did. It revealed the weak points we have to work on. And as you can see we already improved most of the findings.

Excuse me, but the audit focused on your current wallet release, which definitely is "live".  That is stated pretty clearly in the first few pages of the report.

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January 24, 2018, 07:52:09 AM
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This is an interesting coin however I had bigger expectations from the audit. Face it, literally the only "positive" thing it mentioned was a sandwich phrase saying that the "basic mechanisms are quite robust" but after that it is all just hammering a large number of specific negative points, some of which do not correspond with the whitepaper.

I understand that lot of us hold bags but can we please be a bit more realistic and not sell this report as a great success?

I think you misunderstand what an audit is used for. An audit is made to find bugs in the software before it goes live! The idea behind an audit is to make a software product more secure and better. And exactly this is what the audit report did. It revealed the weak points we have to work on. And as you can see we already improved most of the findings.

Excuse me, but the audit focused on your current wallet release, which definitely is "live".  That is stated pretty clearly in the first few pages of the report.

Well, the code that was audited is live on github and this is the code for the coming live-wallet release. This code was audited not the current wallet which operates the live-net.
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January 24, 2018, 08:02:01 AM
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This is an interesting coin however I had bigger expectations from the audit. Face it, literally the only "positive" thing it mentioned was a sandwich phrase saying that the "basic mechanisms are quite robust" but after that it is all just hammering a large number of specific negative points, some of which do not correspond with the whitepaper.

I understand that lot of us hold bags but can we please be a bit more realistic and not sell this report as a great success?

I think you misunderstand what an audit is used for. An audit is made to find bugs in the software before it goes live! The idea behind an audit is to make a software product more secure and better. And exactly this is what the audit report did. It revealed the weak points we have to work on. And as you can see we already improved most of the findings.

Excuse me, but the audit focused on your current wallet release, which definitely is "live".  That is stated pretty clearly in the first few pages of the report.

Well, the code that was audited is live on github and this is the code for the coming live-wallet release. This code was audited not the current wallet which operates the live-net.

Ah, okay.  So the current wallet/enigma platform is even *more* out of date, and presumably exposed to even more attack vectors, than your latest-greatest recently audited version.  Do I have that about right?

+1 for the audit.  But there is a clearly a lot of work remaining.

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January 24, 2018, 08:10:24 AM
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This is an interesting coin however I had bigger expectations from the audit. Face it, literally the only "positive" thing it mentioned was a sandwich phrase saying that the "basic mechanisms are quite robust" but after that it is all just hammering a large number of specific negative points, some of which do not correspond with the whitepaper.

I understand that lot of us hold bags but can we please be a bit more realistic and not sell this report as a great success?

I think you misunderstand what an audit is used for. An audit is made to find bugs in the software before it goes live! The idea behind an audit is to make a software product more secure and better. And exactly this is what the audit report did. It revealed the weak points we have to work on. And as you can see we already improved most of the findings.

Excuse me, but the audit focused on your current wallet release, which definitely is "live".  That is stated pretty clearly in the first few pages of the report.

Well, the code that was audited is live on github and this is the code for the coming live-wallet release. This code was audited not the current wallet which operates the live-net.

Ah, okay.  So the current wallet/enigma platform is even *more* out of date, and presumably exposed to even more attack vectors, than your latest-greatest recently audited version.  Do I have that about right?

+1 for the audit.  But there is a clearly a lot of work remaining.

Well, the code base is the same. The Cloak-Enigma in the live version is out-dated. The new Cloak-Enigma that was audited is much much more improved than the one on the current live-wallets. That i why we had the audit! Regarding the old Code base, we planed and we already started the move to LTC Base (because of Segwit/Lightning/Atomic Swaps in the future) but this is another big and complex task to be done. It would have caused even more delays in opening the code and having it audited. The next steps what we are doing: Final finish of the current version and release of live-wallet. Then we will go ahead with the move to LTC Base which is one of the major tasks this year! An updated Roadmap is coming out soon, after we are done with releasing the new (currently audited) wallet.

I hope this clarifies the situation a bit. Thanks.
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January 24, 2018, 09:00:27 AM
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This is an interesting coin however I had bigger expectations from the audit. Face it, literally the only "positive" thing it mentioned was a sandwich phrase saying that the "basic mechanisms are quite robust" but after that it is all just hammering a large number of specific negative points, some of which do not correspond with the whitepaper.

I understand that lot of us hold bags but can we please be a bit more realistic and not sell this report as a great success?

I think you're missing the point. Cognosec wasn't able to trace the receiver and they found a theoretical possibility to identify the sender. This problem has been solved BECAUSE OF the audit, which consequently made Cloak better. That IS a success! Other coins didn't put the future of their product at risk by letting a third party review the code. Monero have their own "Monero Research Lab" to make their coin more "trustworthy".
Apart from #1 Cognosec only found minor issues and let's face it - they had to justify their existence. 

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January 24, 2018, 09:07:15 AM
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Guys I am having the WORST time syncing from scratch. It syncs a day, and I leave it for a hour and it stops. I have to close and restart it, and it syncs another day. Ive left it sometimes for 4-5 hours and it doesnt move. Ive downloaded the latest .conf and it doesnt help. I even found a bootstrap, but that only took my to early November 2014. Does anyone have a bootstrap that goes until February 2015 they can upload? PLEASE?
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January 24, 2018, 09:33:51 AM
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Guys I am having the WORST time syncing from scratch. It syncs a day, and I leave it for a hour and it stops. I have to close and restart it, and it syncs another day. Ive left it sometimes for 4-5 hours and it doesnt move. Ive downloaded the latest .conf and it doesnt help. I even found a bootstrap, but that only took my to early November 2014. Does anyone have a bootstrap that goes until February 2015 they can upload? PLEASE?

Just join the chat. So far, all probelms have been solved ;-)


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January 24, 2018, 09:43:18 AM
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Guys I am having the WORST time syncing from scratch. It syncs a day, and I leave it for a hour and it stops. I have to close and restart it, and it syncs another day. Ive left it sometimes for 4-5 hours and it doesnt move. Ive downloaded the latest .conf and it doesnt help. I even found a bootstrap, but that only took my to early November 2014. Does anyone have a bootstrap that goes until February 2015 they can upload? PLEASE?

Please join us at chat.cloakcoin.com
Join #wallet there
there are all solutions for the issues.

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January 24, 2018, 12:28:44 PM
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Awesome !!!
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January 24, 2018, 12:49:45 PM
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Cloakcoin to Allow Truly Anonymous Transaction using ENIGMA - NEWSBTC

It’s Invest Diva’s Kiana with News BTC and here is your cryptocurrency update. While the large-cap cryptocurrencies try to erase last week’s losses, today I’d like to take a look at a cryptocurrency way down in the bottom, ranking 203 on the list, called CloakCoin. The reason why I’m bringing it up is that its technology appears to be certified allowing truly anonymous transactions. Categorized under “privacy coins”, Cloakcoin uses the next generation Enigma encryption to create fully private transactions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qu5rq4RSDk
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January 24, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
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We've created a short CLOAK Promo video.

Watch it on our Youtube channel  CloakTV and subscribe! Don't miss any more videos from us!


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Dear Cloak Community,

CloakCoin is a self funded project since 2014.
We always put a lot of efforts, love and dedication into this project and made CLOAK to what it is now!

We have to take advantage of a lot of opportunities to bring Cloak to a new level.
Unfortunately, the budget is limited because we never had an ICO growthfund.

It would be great if you - the Cloak community - could help us to make everything possible until the developers fund creation is ready.

Donations will mainly be used for further developments, marketing & PR campaigns and support to pay fees to be added on exchanges.

Cloak: CEx4sWzvFBZ5WUrMAbSoxsVDAiSqBD5zNM

Bitcoin: 1AYBNvSDNr8Yxwr7r42DSh5kbe3RV6ErBg

Ethereum: 0x49221a37F408F1915Ad4061Fb304c4B42A096C51




Thank you in advance!

Peace & Love

Team Cloak






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January 25, 2018, 08:39:07 AM
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Dear Cloak Community,

CloakCoin is a self funded project since 2014.
We always put a lot of efforts, love and dedication into this project and made CLOAK to what it is now!

We have to take advantage of a lot of opportunities to bring Cloak to a new level.
Unfortunately, the budget is limited because we never had an ICO growthfund.

It would be great if you - the Cloak community - could help us to make everything possible until the developers fund creation is ready.

Donations will mainly be used for further developments, marketing & PR campaigns and support to pay fees to be added on exchanges.

Cloak: CEx4sWzvFBZ5WUrMAbSoxsVDAiSqBD5zNM

Bitcoin: 1AYBNvSDNr8Yxwr7r42DSh5kbe3RV6ErBg



Thank you in advance!

Peace & Love

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I just sent a donation, use it to make this project even greater!
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January 25, 2018, 08:43:52 AM
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So weissratings have decided to also do cryptocurrencies now.

https://weisscryptocurrencyratings.com/

Bitcoin is rated C+ overall. I can certainly understand that sort of rating given it's made up of a variety of things which include stuff like risk, volatility etc. I REALLY don't get how they then turn around and give etherium a B and some "coins" that are nothing more than pipe dreams or ETH tokens, a higher rating. But there's only a handful of those and the rest are "real" coins. Anyway, I just wanted to highlight that Cloak is on the list as well which is nice to see with an overall rating of C-. Most coins were rated between C- and C+.

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January 25, 2018, 04:13:03 PM
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Dear Cloak Community,

CloakCoin is a self funded project since 2014.
We always put a lot of efforts, love and dedication into this project and made CLOAK to what it is now!

We have to take advantage of a lot of opportunities to bring Cloak to a new level.
Unfortunately, the budget is limited because we never had an ICO growthfund.

It would be great if you - the Cloak community - could help us to make everything possible until the developers fund creation is ready.

Donations will mainly be used for further developments, marketing & PR campaigns and support to pay fees to be added on exchanges.

https://i.imgur.com/sCYlAoe.png Cloak: CEx4sWzvFBZ5WUrMAbSoxsVDAiSqBD5zNM

https://i.imgur.com/Cf2V2S0.png Bitcoin: 1AYBNvSDNr8Yxwr7r42DSh5kbe3RV6ErBg

https://i.imgur.com/nUhgPet.png

Thank you in advance!

Peace & Love

Team Cloak






Please post an ETH address
Id rather donate coins/tokens other than cloak as I'm using centralized exchanges as little as possible, I dont want to part with any cloak, BTC is too expensive to move, and this way you can take any ERC20 token

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January 26, 2018, 06:13:47 AM
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Awesome stuff is going on here, awesome audit report!

I applaud the audit, but how many people actually read it?  Stand out items:  no mathematical analysis performed on involved cryptographic algorithms and methods (outside the scope of the audit); Cloaking transactions with few cloakers can be traced, both sender and receiver; reliance on out of date bitcoin and Tor code; random number generator doesn't really work for enigma transactions; source code analysis found multiple instances of reliance out out-of-date and unsafe methods, transaction history stored in an unencrypted format.  Compromise of Anonymity is flagged as a current "high" severity risk factor on cloak transactions with, say, three cloakers.  It is susceptible to a DLL preload attack; page 17 describes the issues resulting from using old and out of date Bitcoin code base; page 20 addresses how the Tor code is out of date and vulnerable to a list of exploits; page 21 several functions found in the source code which leave Cloak vulnerable to buffer overflow attacks.  You can't back up the wallet using the currently accepted best practice of using a seed phrase.  I'll stop there.  To the people that are saying "wow!" I ask again:  did you read the audit report?

The Cloak team replies to a number of these identified shortcomings by simply stating that in the future an upgrade of the wallet software will address these issues.  I hope so.

+1 for the audit, but it seems there is still quite a bit of work to be done to make this world class.

For someone to applaud the audit, you certainly came to conclusions that were not in the audit. I suspect troll but will forge ahead.  The audit was not able to discover anything associated with the recipient of the transaction. They were able to determine the send amount and the sender. This has been solved. Read the audit. The random number generator was not seeded which means.only that the random numbers would follow a sequence. You would still need to know where in the sequence you were when transactions were done. It has benn solved quite simply  other problems are not considered high risk issues. Your concern is warranted but we are on top of them

Cloak team
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January 26, 2018, 03:37:11 PM
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[...] we planed and we already started the move to LTC Base (because of Segwit/Lightning/Atomic Swaps in the future) but this is another big and complex task to be done [...]
Other than the changes you mentioned, would there be anything else that would change from switching from a Bitcoin base to a Litecoin base?

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January 26, 2018, 03:44:13 PM
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[...] we planed and we already started the move to LTC Base (because of Segwit/Lightning/Atomic Swaps in the future) but this is another big and complex task to be done [...]
Other than the changes you mentioned, would there be anything else that would change from switching from a Bitcoin base to a Litecoin base?

i'm not a dev and have no idea about coding but it's a bug update.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwYz3z4wuk0


New video on Cloak. This guy is spot on
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