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November 17, 2015, 01:28:27 PM
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about every 2nd node received no payment today  Sad
Where is the source of this script? Is it open-source?
("Fair Distribution" => should be open-source...)


It was created by CBKR and is not open source as it is unique to Horizon for distribution.

I think - it is buggy. Please publish it as open-source (without private keys!). Github preferred. We (the HZ community) can review it, and correct, if it is open-source.
Recently is the "bounties" rather a gambling, and not a "fair distribution".

I think also - this bug does not depend on NRS Version, what the Node uses. It is simple bug(s) in script.
I would like to help... But without source?


I disagree with you here. We have over 1.5 years of records of a fair distribution model, and any issue that has come up with the nodes has always been resolved. CBKR has stated several times that he did not wish to make that code public, and nor myself or anyone else will push him to do so. If he wants to make it open source, that will be his decision.
I will forward him along this conversation, and he can come to his own decision. 
It is possible there is a bug, as there have been in the past which were resolved.

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November 17, 2015, 02:08:02 PM
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At long last, the next client update is available for the public!
We have also added a .exe installer to make installing Horizon less of a technical hassle. Also, keep in mind that the latest version of Horizon will require you to update to Java 8.

Please note that the installer does include JRE8 in it! Smiley

This update will force a hard fork at block # 515,000
You will also need to update your nodes by this block to the current version to continue receiving bounties as long as distribution continues.

We have a lot of other projects and news that will be dropping in the coming weeks to follow, so stay tuned to see what we have been working on all this time, and  will be rolling out next. It's been a long time in the making, and we are very excited to finally release them to the public and focus on the next chapter for Horizon.

With distribution near completion, our focus moving forward for Horizon will be getting more people involved and using the platform, with an emphasis on the foundation that was set up a couple months back. We will continue to update the client, but our focus now turns to getting more people involved, and exposure for the platform. The platform infrastructure, and long standing reputation of the project will serve as a basis for further asset development and new partnerships with businesses to take Horizon to the mainstream public.

Thanks to everyone who has stuck around over the past year. Join us while we take the next step in the blockchain revolution.

You can download it here: https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source/releases/tag/hz-v5.2

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November 17, 2015, 02:23:57 PM
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Fine. Thank you Smiley

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November 17, 2015, 02:35:24 PM
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If I'll start using 5.2 now, will I get node bounty or it is mandatory only after 515000 block?
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November 17, 2015, 02:38:02 PM
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If I'll start using 5.2 now, will I get node bounty or it is mandatory only after 515000 block?

You can use your old nodes up until block # 515,000

I believe the script has been updated for 5.2, but let me get confirmation from CBKR.
In the meantime, you can use your nodes with the current version you are running them on until then! Smiley

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November 17, 2015, 04:27:29 PM
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At long last, the next client update is available for the public!
We have also added a .exe installer to make installing Horizon less of a technical hassle. Also, keep in mind that the latest version of Horizon will require you to update to Java 8.

Please note that the installer does include JRE8 in it! Smiley

This update will force a hard fork at block # 515,000
You will also need to update your nodes by this block to the current version to continue receiving bounties as long as distribution continues.

We have a lot of other projects and news that will be dropping in the coming weeks to follow, so stay tuned to see what we have been working on all this time, and  will be rolling out next. It's been a long time in the making, and we are very excited to finally release them to the public and focus on the next chapter for Horizon.

With distribution near completion, our focus moving forward for Horizon will be getting more people involved and using the platform, with an emphasis on the foundation that was set up a couple months back. We will continue to update the client, but our focus now turns to getting more people involved, and exposure for the platform. The platform infrastructure, and long standing reputation of the project will serve as a basis for further asset development and new partnerships with businesses to take Horizon to the mainstream public.

Thanks to everyone who has stuck around over the past year. Join us while we take the next step in the blockchain revolution.

You can download it here: https://github.com/NeXTHorizon/hz-source/releases/tag/hz-v5.2

getting more people involved and using the platform will need the price to go up alot
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November 17, 2015, 05:00:49 PM
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getting more people involved and using the platform will need the price to go up alot

Not necessarily. There are a lot of use cases where the price of HZ doesn't matter, and even some where a low price is favorable.
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November 17, 2015, 05:11:42 PM
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getting more people involved and using the platform will need the price to go up alot

Not necessarily. There are a lot of use cases where the price of HZ doesn't matter, and even some where a low price is favorable.
but it does help for higher price
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November 17, 2015, 05:24:36 PM
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getting more people involved and using the platform will need the price to go up alot

Not necessarily. There are a lot of use cases where the price of HZ doesn't matter, and even some where a low price is favorable.

Liquidity is the major factor, more so than price. I would think that most use cases of HZ would require being able to exchange back and forth between other currencies/tokens with ease and minimal slippage.

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November 17, 2015, 05:40:13 PM
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getting more people involved and using the platform will need the price to go up alot

Not necessarily. There are a lot of use cases where the price of HZ doesn't matter, and even some where a low price is favorable.

Liquidity is the major factor, more so than price. I would think that most use cases of HZ would require being able to exchange back and forth between other currencies/tokens with ease and minimal slippage.

Liquidity means bigger market cap hz cant go much lower so needs bigger price move up
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November 17, 2015, 06:17:22 PM
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getting more people involved and using the platform will need the price to go up alot

Not necessarily. There are a lot of use cases where the price of HZ doesn't matter, and even some where a low price is favorable.

Liquidity is the major factor, more so than price. I would think that most use cases of HZ would require being able to exchange back and forth between other currencies/tokens with ease and minimal slippage.

Again, not necessarily. HZ is a toolkit, and a low token price helps to issue assets or currencies and send them around, or cast votes. Assets and coins don't need to be tradable, for coins it's even possible to disallow it.
The only one who needs a high price and liquidity is someone who wants to sell a bunch, for example crowdfunders. There are at least two external projects in the making that I'm aware of, where an asset/coin will not be created to be traded on an exchange. Bitnation and E-Estonia also don't offer monetary services (yet), but they use the blockchain for transactions.

Of course liquidity IS an issue, but one that's also being worked on (i heard...)
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November 17, 2015, 06:53:09 PM
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getting more people involved and using the platform will need the price to go up alot

Not necessarily. There are a lot of use cases where the price of HZ doesn't matter, and even some where a low price is favorable.

Liquidity is the major factor, more so than price. I would think that most use cases of HZ would require being able to exchange back and forth between other currencies/tokens with ease and minimal slippage.

Again, not necessarily. HZ is a toolkit, and a low token price helps to issue assets or currencies and send them around, or cast votes. Assets and coins don't need to be tradable, for coins it's even possible to disallow it.
The only one who needs a high price and liquidity is someone who wants to sell a bunch, for example crowdfunders. There are at least two external projects in the making that I'm aware of, where an asset/coin will not be created to be traded on an exchange. Bitnation and E-Estonia also don't offer monetary services (yet), but they use the blockchain for transactions.

Of course liquidity IS an issue, but one that's also being worked on (i heard...)
if Assets and coins don't need to be tradable how do i buy asset or coin or sell ??

bitnation uses hz for services so how do bitnation users get hz ??

folk want need higher price for more purchasing power in the future??

i did read in the slack that the hz foundation wants higher price or they go bust ?
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November 17, 2015, 07:26:25 PM
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if you are into price rising over technology, i would suggest looking into one of the 1500 different other shitcoins you can make a quick buck off of.
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November 17, 2015, 07:57:35 PM
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if Assets and coins don't need to be tradable how do i buy asset or coin or sell ??

bitnation uses hz for services so how do bitnation users get hz ??

folk want need higher price for more purchasing power in the future??

i did read in the slack that the hz foundation wants higher price or they go bust ?

Current Bitnation services are centralized and the fees are paid by Bitnation.

When users of a service need HZ, a low price makes it easy for the service provider to hand them out. Deals can be made on a website, an asset can be bought with fiat for example.

When the foundation pays out something of course a high price is better, because the funds will hold longer. Going bust is far away no matter what, the only regular expense is the hosting. Nothing else has been paid out so far (edit: one translation comes to my mind, just peanuts), and there's no one working on something he wants to claim a bounty for afaik. If we'd keep it like that and cover only the current hosting, we're good for about 10 years right now. And we will move to a cheaper server when distribution is finished.

A higher price could help to bring in more devs to work on the core, but in the current situation services and adoption seem a lot more important to me than new features.
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November 17, 2015, 08:14:41 PM
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if you are into price rising over technology, i would suggest looking into one of the 1500 different other shitcoins you can make a quick buck off of.

so says the one with 200x 1broker.com under your quote
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November 17, 2015, 09:52:42 PM
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At long last, the next client update is available for the public!
We have also added a .exe installer to make installing Horizon less of a technical hassle. Also, keep in mind that the latest version of Horizon will require you to update to Java 8.

Please note that the installer does include JRE8 in it! Smiley

Thanks a lot!! And I'd also like to publicly thank MaWo for all his hard and meticulous work.






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November 17, 2015, 09:55:45 PM
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Again, not necessarily. HZ is a toolkit, and a low token price helps to issue assets or currencies and send them around, or cast votes. Assets and coins don't need to be tradable, for coins it's even possible to disallow it.
The only one who needs a high price and liquidity is someone who wants to sell a bunch, for example crowdfunders.

Yes, that's right. A low price is no deterrent at all to many projects: crowdfunding is one of the few.






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November 17, 2015, 11:29:55 PM
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Everyone who installed the leaked version 5.2-rc3 must update before block 500000.

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November 17, 2015, 11:34:48 PM
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Everyone who installed the leaked version 5.2-rc3 must update before block 500000.
We are at block 500099...

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November 18, 2015, 12:01:35 AM
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Everyone who installed the leaked version 5.2-rc3 must update before block 500000.
We are at block 500099...

Then anyone using the old version better update.  Wink

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