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[Nxtblg]

Try this one: https://159.203.20.204/wallet/index.html 

Thanks, MaWo 

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[markm]

On the admin.html page where you generate your hallmark, the date format is not specified, the example date is ambiguous, it is not clear that international standard dates that collate normally in ASCII are intended, because the example date shown would also work if it was some kind of bastardised non-collating wierd U.S. format where they screwed up the month and day to break easy collation (listing in sequence) of dates (such as if you happen to use a date as a filename or whatever).

So presumably either the U.S. idiots or the whole rest of the world might well be entering the date incorrectly, would that screw up their distribution of coins for running a node?

This seems like an important problem, who the heck decided to put such an ambiguous date in there as example date instead of something like 2013-12-31 that makes it plain the normal easy-to-collate international date style is intended? (Or vice versa, 2013-31-12 if stupid american crap is intended) ?

TL;DR what the fuck order are we supposed to put the year month and day in that stupid/idiotic form?

-MarkM-

[MaWo]

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This seems like an important problem, who the heck decided to put such an ambiguous date in there as example date instead of something like 2013-12-31 that makes it plain the normal easy-to-collate international date style is intended? (Or vice versa, 2013-31-12 if stupid american crap is intended) ?

...
-MarkM-

I guess Jean Luc:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/annotate/108075295db840cf588dc30a9b77a262ccf92802/webapps/root/admin.html?at=0.4.8&fileviewer=file-view-default#admin.html-50

[altsheets]

TL;DR what the fuck order are we supposed to put the year month and day in that stupid/idiotic form?

This seems like an important problem, who the heck decided to put such an ambiguous date in there as example date instead of something like 2013-12-31 that makes it plain the normal easy-to-collate international date style is intended? (Or vice versa, 2013-31-12 if stupid american crap is intended) ?
...
-MarkM-

I guess Jean Luc:
https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt/annotate/108075295db840cf588dc30a9b77a262ccf92802/webapps/root/admin.html?at=0.4.8&fileviewer=file-view-default#admin.html-50

Does this help? --> Hallmark.parseDate(dateValue) --> class Hallmark


*g*

[altsheets]

Continuation from above (updated).

chaincountdown v18

HZ peer network - analysis

Once the above crawler was ready, a natural next step was to make a network graph from the collected data.

This is how it looks:



Two nodes (green spheres) are connected with edges (gray lines) if they call each other 'peers'.
The more peers a node has (that is called the degree of a node), the bigger its sphere.

Strange shape, isn't it?

The network is very dense, so most nodes end up drawn into one big ball.
But those which are not, were catching my attention. Irregularities are interesting.

I tried an automatic clustering algorithm (i.e. "color nodes equal which are similar"),
called Louvain communities, and those nodes on the top right are clearly recognized
to be different from the all other ones:



You also see some quantitative measurements of network properties. For example:
"Path length" means how many steps a transaction needs from one node to another one.
"Diameter=4" says, it takes maximum 4 steps for a transaction to reach any other node,
and "characteristic path length" that on average only 1.769 steps.

The "Number of shared neighbors" is interesting. Many nodes are almost copies to each other.


But back to the question ... what is making those nodes at the top right so
different, that they are drawn so far out of the main bulk? Ah ... idea:
I checked for the HZ version ("NHZ V5.4") of each node, and colored them:



And now it was all clear: The nodes on the top right ... should be -but have not been- updated :-)
The mainstream (yellow) nodes do not like nostalgic, old-fashioned nodes - and do not connect to them.

The three V5 versions are mixing well, the network graph is showing that too.

Riddle solved.

By the way, here is the first picture with which I realized that I had probably hit the right reason:



The placement of the nodes is a bit artificial, it uses a "optimize inside clusters only" layouting.
But it gives immediate feedback that coloring ("NHZ versions") has something to do with graph structure.
The "NHZ 4.0e" version still has a lot of fans   (RED nodes).


... Anyways, back on track:

Now I dropped all older-than-V5 nodes from the picture - and 160 IP addresses remained:



As they are hyperconnected, with many more links between them than needed
(diameter 2, average path length 1.722, average peers 44.225 / 159 = 28% of all nodes)
it is very difficult to get a meaningful automatic layout.

What I employed is the automatic partitioning "BlockModelling" by "Structural Equivalence"
... which identified 7 nodes (blue) to be different from all the other >150 ones.
They also seem to be the ones with the largest degree. I placed them manually.

At the bottom right you see a (log-log) histogram of degree versus number-of-such-nodes.

That's it, for now.


A typical next question of network analysis would be "resilience":
* ... against random failure: How many nodes have to fail until the network is fragmenting.
* ... against attacks: How many of the most connected nodes have to fail, until the network is fragmenting.

That can be examined in numerical simulations. Perhaps you want to try, then all network files are here ...


That was a really enjoyable, geeky weekend. What had started as a short & simple
user question "your image server is down" ... evolved into a whole research project.

Fascinating, no?

 

If that was entertaining, enlightening, cool, or simply ... interesting
- then please now consider a way to give back. Thanks. You're good.

Home of this: chaincountdown thread

[JPred]

^ awesomely fascinating altsheets.  Being visually inclined helped me make sense of your network analysis.

[GoldenEye]

On the admin.html page where you generate your hallmark, the date format is not specified, the example date is ambiguous, it is not clear that international standard dates that collate normally in ASCII are intended, because the example date shown would also work if it was some kind of bastardised non-collating wierd U.S. format where they screwed up the month and day to break easy collation (listing in sequence) of dates (such as if you happen to use a date as a filename or whatever).

So presumably either the U.S. idiots or the whole rest of the world might well be entering the date incorrectly, would that screw up their distribution of coins for running a node?

This seems like an important problem, who the heck decided to put such an ambiguous date in there as example date instead of something like 2013-12-31 that makes it plain the normal easy-to-collate international date style is intended? (Or vice versa, 2013-31-12 if stupid american crap is intended) ?

TL;DR what the fuck order are we supposed to put the year month and day in that stupid/idiotic form?

-MarkM-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

Would the stupid american really write 2013-31-12 ? Never seen it before.

[PapillonV]

What happened to HZ why the price is low?

[JPred]

Look at big bro NXT, not to mention lotsa other alts - only today at current time: up already 28% hah...seems like HZ left in the dust.

[Nxtblg]

Look at big bro NXT, not to mention lotsa other alts - only today at current time: up already 28% hah...seems like HZ left in the dust.

These things happen. There was a time when HZ was leaping up and Nxt was languishing. The wheel of fortune keep on turning.

[altsheets]

Many many altcoin markets have been crazy bullish in the past days.
Dunno why (tell me if you know), but looks like #altsareback and waking up.

I say that because I guess if HZ showed some upwards impulse now, then the
probability would be non-zero ... that other market participants would join in.

[NASdaq]

Is the node bounty system finished now? Are node numbers holding up?

[ropyu1978]

where can trade?

[Nxtblg]

where can trade?

Poloniex.

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_hz

It's cheap now..

[djselery]

Many many altcoin markets have been crazy bullish in the past days.
Dunno why (tell me if you know), but looks like #altsareback and waking up.

I say that because I guess if HZ showed some upwards impulse now, then the
probability would be non-zero ... that other market participants would join in.

lots of money is being made in eth and dash... now the wealth is being distributed

[GoldenEye]

Is the node bounty system finished now? Are node numbers holding up?

Currently there are 140 nodes, they share the approximately 160000 HZ bounties.

[duncan_idaho]

I have one question.

Why Phaerism account get much more node bounty than normal user

https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=account&id=446841167369702212

This payments are x2  bigger than normal.

[GoldenEye]

I have one question.

Why Phaerism account get much more node bounty than normal user

https://explorer.horizonplatform.io/?page=account&id=446841167369702212

This payments are x2  bigger than normal.

No, thats ok. pharesim has two nodes:
85.214.65.220 and 78.46.32.4

But there is another problem: Normally, he should not receive payments, because the nodes have not a valid hallmark.
The hallmark is requirement for node bounties, because it links the node with an account.

Code:

curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{"protocol":1,"requestType":"getInfo"}' 85.214.65.220:7774/nhz
{"application":"NRS","version":"NHZ V5.4","platform":"PC","shareAddress":true}

curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{"protocol":1,"requestType":"getInfo"}' 78.46.32.4:7774/nhz
{"application":"NRS","version":"NHZ V5.4","platform":"PC","shareAddress":true}

Seams that pharesims account is hardcoded in the payout script.
Now everyone can imagine his part.

By the way, a valid hallmark looks like that:

Code:

curl -H "Content-Type: application/json" -d '{"protocol":1,"requestType":"getInfo"}' 185.38.44.174:7774/nhz 
{"hallmark":"60987409fa83bc8cadc521842637367e31211a08f44730ebc57aa53b2bf8a41f0d003138352e33382e34342e313734640000008a2d33016d4bb7e6b8f15aac920ea89586e6e5d33452b95422396c55f8b313ddc0f4868f0849218a4ccadac77efe08951faa4b3cd2ba9134e1d917a19d1e19e4831eb4357a","announcedAddress":"185.38.44.174","application":"NRS","version":"NHZ V5.4","platform":"vps69","shareAddress":true}

[pharesim]

I realized that a couple of weeks ago too. I think it's because they had a valid hallmark once. With one of the updates I didn't renew it because I didn't care about the bounty.
If you want you can test if that's the reason, remove the hallmark from a working node and see if payouts continue. But remember that the script is not supported any more and will keep running as-is.

Why should cbkr hardcode my servers into his script? The speculations on here are as ridiculous as always

//edit:
Hell, even if he did, the nodes are up and running.
I can understand that this scene fosters paranoia because everyone tries to rip off each other, but you're near to a clinical condition. In my 4 years here I never played foul, still I have to reply to accusations from shitards like you. Go see a doctor.

[GoldenEye]

I realized that a couple of weeks ago too. I think it's because they had a valid hallmark once. With one of the updates I didn't renew it because I didn't care about the bounty.
If you want you can test if that's the reason, remove the hallmark from a working node and see if payouts continue. But remember that the script is not supported any more and will keep running as-is.

Why should cbkr hardcode my servers into his script? The speculations on here are as ridiculous as always

//edit:
Hell, even if he did, the nodes are up and running.
I can understand that this scene fosters paranoia because everyone tries to rip off each other, but you're near to a clinical condition. In my 4 years here I never played foul, still I have to reply to accusations from shitards like you. Go see a doctor.

Take it easy!  The explanation sounds ok.
How about when you set the Hallmark again?

By the way, currently there are 364 active nodes, 8 without hallmark (5 paid today) and 1 node with invalid hallmark (also paid today).