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Question: would you consider yourself a socialist? who believes in redistribution of wealth, price fixing stuff like that?
socialist - 13 (48.1%)
free market guy - 14 (51.9%)
Total Voters: 27

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October 18, 2014, 03:31:21 PM
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Governments don't "redistribute" wealth. They distribute wealth (after taking a big cut to pay for all the bureacrats). By doing so, they also discourage creating wealth.

In the free market wealth is produced and exchanged, not distributed.
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October 18, 2014, 03:54:50 PM
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I don't see why wars would be any harder to start without a state. All it would need is the people with the most wealth and control over society to push others in that direction. Just like now.
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October 18, 2014, 04:14:11 PM
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Governments don't "redistribute" wealth. They distribute wealth (after taking a big cut to pay for all the bureacrats). By doing so, they also discourage creating wealth.

In the free market wealth is produced and exchanged, not distributed.

thats a good one but i would say distribute mainly but also redistribute... i would say ppl tend to think that its like 70-80% redistribution and 20-30% distribution but i think this is a wrong perception.


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October 19, 2014, 08:32:10 PM
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I don't see why wars would be any harder to start without a state. All it would need is the people with the most wealth and control over society to push others in that direction. Just like now.

I wasn't picking sides, just presenting another point of view.

That said, consider the magnitude of wars fought with state backing. I doubt there could have been a private funding or collaboration for the Manhattan project, icbm's, or other tools of global extinction. Only recently have private citizens been successful at launching spacecraft, based on 80+ years of state funded r&d.

Historically large advances in military hardware have required the backing of a state or city state. Standing armies have also historically been either state funded or a form of slavery. There are instances or private armies challenging state powers, of which they became the state themselves. The war of the roses for example.

I think the most central issue these days is fiat funded, unending wars. Eventually a private army would run out of money, this isn't an issue for a state with a central bank, or particularly the world reserve currency.

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