20 BTC bounty for first AT *atomic cross-chain transfer* with Script clone

[CIYAM]

Thanks to one of the devs working on implementing AT in another Java coin it was brought to our attention that our "indirect" and "indirect indexed" addressing ops needed two complimentary ops (so that fetching and storing via this approach is supported).

I have now updated the AT specification (http://ciyam.org/at/at.html) and the C++ prototype (http://ciyam.org/at/_at.cpp.html) to provide the new op codes.

(relevant op codes are IND_DAT, IDX_DAT, SET_IND and SET_IDX)

Note that this doesn't affect the atomic cross-chain transfer use-case as it doesn't use any of those op codes.

[rlh]

Thanks, CIYAM for keeping this going.  If you wouldn't mind me askig, could you post and update one the Qora thread regarding the AT integration?  What percent are you guys complete?  Are we getting close to a release and, if no, can you give a reasonable ETA?

I hate to derail this topic but I did want to get your attention.

[CIYAM]

I hate to derail this topic but I did want to get your attention.

No problem although I am not directly involved with the Qora coding (also I believe that qora has been sick recently) - my understanding is that the development is going well and we should be ready to test in a few weeks.

[rlh]

Great, thanks!  Yes, Qora tends to disappear and then magically appear weeks.  I hate to hear he's sick, bht that would explain his extended absense.

[CIYAM]

We may also be *announced* at the next Bitcoin conference in Dubai (December 11th from memory) but that will be up to one of the teams that is looking into AT.

(unfortunately we don't have oodles of BTC to spend on marketing like the competition does)

[DooMAD]

Will be keeping an eye on this thread.  Hopefully there are some significant breakthroughs and hopping between coins and blockchains without using any centralised exchanges becomes the preferred method of trading.  I'm a little surprised there isn't more excitement about the potential of all this.

[CIYAM]

I understand that the Qora AT implementation is now quite close to completion and Qora will be going open source in the next few days (AT will most likely not make the initial open source release but will be included in a follow up as some final tweaks and testing still needs to be performed).

There will be another non-Bitcoin clone that will be running live with AT very soon but we are still waiting to see if anyone is going to try and claim the 40 BTC possible before the end of the year for getting a Bitcoin clone to implement AT and do an atomic cross-chain transfer with Qora (or the other yet to be announced coin).

[CIYAM]

The first blockchain to go live with AT is Burst (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731923.msg9910950#msg9910950) so to qualify for this script implementation of AT bounty the actual atomic cross-chain transfer can be done using Burst (although I am guessing that Qora will also be live before the end of the year).

[HostFat]

Great! I hope that this will become a function on every next alt-coin

[xxxgoodgirls]

Revolutionary.

[548845]

Excellent job!!!!

It's a shame that most innovations happen on alt-coins rather than Bitcoin.

None the less great job guys!!!!

[DooMAD]

Fantastic work.  Well done to CIYAM, the Burst dev team and, hopefully soon, the Qora team as well.

Excellent job!!!!

It's a shame that most innovations happen on alt-coins rather than Bitcoin.

None the less great job guys!!!!

In a way it's for the best.  Test the experimental ideas elsewhere to make sure everything works as intended.  Then if it turns out to be a useful and worthwhile feature (which AT definitely is!   ), it can then be incorporated into Bitcoin, or run above it on a higher layer.

[CIYAM]

We will soon have a "trustless lottery" running for Burst (a world's first I think).

Although no-one managed to claim the possible 40 BTC bounty to get AT on a Bitcoin clone before the new year there is still 20 BTC available for those that are interested.

[rlh]

How is the Qora implementation coming along?

[CIYAM]

How is the Qora implementation coming along?

I understand it is very near release but @qoradev seems to be on holidays still.

[CIYAM]

So the first decentralised lottery (running on Burst and powered by AT) has now commenced.

Although it is perhaps going to take a while for the implications of this to sink in those that run "gambling for profit" businesses are now going to find themselves facing competition from programs that don't actually need to make a profit in order to continue operating (they just need players).

Those wanting to get attention for their alts might want to consider how offering something like a Satoshi Dice which works on *zero percent margin* might attract users to their coin.

[HostFat]

So the first decentralised lottery (running on Burst and powered by AT) has now commenced.

Now that the search on the forum is disabled, can you give a link to it? Please

EDIT:
Ok, I've found it

[CIYAM]

http://www.theuknews.com/index.php/nav/newsr/5228

Please note that 20 BTC is still waiting for someone to "step up" and implement AT in a Bitcoin clone.

[CIYAM]

Unfortunately still no altcoin devs have "stepped up" to implementing the Turing complete Automated Transactions system - so in order to provide a sense of urgency please note that I will be removing the bounty after the end of this month.

[DooMAD]

It seems there's still a chance it might happen.  It sounds like Burst has their system pretty much ready to go and Qora isn't far behind:

AT team will proceed as normally with the integration of AT, create a new wallet version, test it first on a testnet and then release it.
If in the meanwhile, full source code get released, AT team will probably revised their integration to fit to the latest code and Qora will decide if he is going to compile a new wallet version at that specific moment.
If the source code released after the wallet provided by AT team, then again, it will be merged.

Whether it's ready in time for them to win the bounty or not is another matter entirely.  But mostly I just want to see this cross-chain system up and running.  Even if it takes a bit more time to get it 100% right, the potential of this is genuinely exciting.  It's times like this when I wish I had some coding knowledge to contribute and help speed things along, but I'll have to settle for cheering from the sidelines.