CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[bensam1231]

I sold all my 970 and 980 cards, i got tired of the power bills and low profits.

Beginner's mistake. The profit is being moved from the small miners to the big miners. There is profit everywhere. You just need to know what to mine..

Well.

I sold five high end gpu:s in total and put some of that money in ETH. It is up like four times since then so i guess i am not that stupid.
I think a combo of mining smart and daytrading is the way to go if you dont have free electricity and a bunch of optimized miners.

Daytrading is a completely different jobset from mining. You could make a lot of money daytrading, you can also lose a lot. It has nothing to do with mining, just the same as making kernels doesn't. They all go together, but at the end of the day you don't even need those GPUs to do it. You could've sold them all and just switched to daytrading and made even more money.

There isn't anyway a 970 should be making less money then 750tis... They're a bit less efficient, but otherwise...

It's now clear that you can't "just mine".
You need to have at least two of the following:

- developer skills to make your own optimisations
- very cheap or free electricity
- time to follow the market closely and choose what to mine
- daytrading skills to inflate your profit (but then you could just buy, instead of mine)

I've mentioned pages back there were multiple jobsets in the Cryptoscene that developed over time. Kernel devs, daytrading (daytrading is watching markets), coin finders (people who find lucrative coins by digging through BCT), and mining... They're all unique and in and of themselves they're their own job. That's why it's silly to assume a miner needs to make his own kernels. You pay kernel developers for that. You can do that, but that's not what they do.

And sure you can 'just mine'. You don't need to daytrade to sell coins. Use a calculator. There are always ways to increase your profit, but people have limited time and expertise. In the real world, in real workplaces, you higher multiple people with multiple skillsets to take on multiple roles because you can't do everything yourself (or it lowers efficiency immensely).

Ethereum is still hot BTW.

Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls.

5% bro 5% go get it done already

You're talking about miner fee? 2%, not 5%... And we can't do this because 'it'll violate licensing' that no one gives a shit about, so we have to sell private kernels for fixed BTC! 'Cause that's different...

To be fair though, right now is definitely not a good time for a % based miner because everyones on Ethereum, but that can obviously change... Markets are very volatile. That's why you don't get involved in just one. Even BTC is quite volatile.

If SP cracks the Ethereum voodoo magic that might change though.

Ethereum is still hot BTW.

Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls.

You want people to keep donating and at the same time you call them trolls ? wtf

You can hate people all you want you have a business relationship with. It's not a donation either, basically a subscription at this point.

Ethereum is still hot BTW.

Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls.

LOL

you made my day  

I am thinking to put that into my signature  

"Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls."

(best quote ever )

Eternal hate and big red letters doesn't make you more correct... Otherwise you'd win! Also sorry Cryptsy crashed and no one wanted your miner anymore though. Perhaps try selling four months earlier. You know, business sense...



Also for you guys in case you don't know... http://badmofo.github.io/ethereum-mining-calculator/

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[antantti]

Daytrading is a completely different jobset from mining. You could make a lot of money daytrading, you can also lose a lot. It has nothing to do with mining, just the same as making kernels doesn't. They all go together, but at the end of the day you don't even need those GPUs to do it. You could've sold them all and just switched to daytrading and made even more money.

-MORE OT-

You got a point there but nothing to do with mining? Every miner has to sell, knowing even basics about (day)trading increases profits much more than any optimized kernel.

Only miner who doesn't need trading skills is BTC bagholder who autosells everything to BTC.

[Genoil]

Each instance of ethminer keeps a copy of the full dag in system RAM to validate a solution. However, if it is not present, it will perform a slightly slower "light" validation (https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/blob/master/libethcore/EthashAux.cpp line 267-276). If you would load the dag in chunks,

But if you remove cpu validation, the etherminer doesn't need to use any ram to store the dag file. The dagfile is only located in the GPU memory. Should be an option to do this, and also an option to load the file to the gpu in chunks. I am too lazy to upgrade my rigs with 8 GB of ram just to mine ETHER.

Light CPU validation only costs 32MB of "ethash cache". But it could also be completely removed. I don't have too much time to work on ethminer, but I'll see what I can do.

-OT-

Genoil, I hope you dumped my donation already. I don't want to be that guy they are telling stories about... you know, 10 000 BTC for pizza and so on... 

Nope, holding. I'm either going to use all donations to spend on a Pascal GPU when it's out, or play with staking when ETH goes PoS.

[djm34]

I sold all my 970 and 980 cards, i got tired of the power bills and low profits.

Beginner's mistake. The profit is being moved from the small miners to the big miners. There is profit everywhere. You just need to know what to mine..

Well.

I sold five high end gpu:s in total and put some of that money in ETH. It is up like four times since then so i guess i am not that stupid.
I think a combo of mining smart and daytrading is the way to go if you dont have free electricity and a bunch of optimized miners.

Daytrading is a completely different jobset from mining. You could make a lot of money daytrading, you can also lose a lot. It has nothing to do with mining, just the same as making kernels doesn't. They all go together, but at the end of the day you don't even need those GPUs to do it. You could've sold them all and just switched to daytrading and made even more money.

There isn't anyway a 970 should be making less money then 750tis... They're a bit less efficient, but otherwise...

It's now clear that you can't "just mine".
You need to have at least two of the following:

- developer skills to make your own optimisations
- very cheap or free electricity
- time to follow the market closely and choose what to mine
- daytrading skills to inflate your profit (but then you could just buy, instead of mine)

I've mentioned pages back there were multiple jobsets in the Cryptoscene that developed over time. Kernel devs, daytrading (daytrading is watching markets), coin finders (people who find lucrative coins by digging through BCT), and mining... They're all unique and in and of themselves they're their own job. That's why it's silly to assume a miner needs to make his own kernels. You pay kernel developers for that. You can do that, but that's not what they do.

And sure you can 'just mine'. You don't need to daytrade to sell coins. Use a calculator. There are always ways to increase your profit, but people have limited time and expertise. In the real world, in real workplaces, you higher multiple people with multiple skillsets to take on multiple roles because you can't do everything yourself (or it lowers efficiency immensely).

Ethereum is still hot BTW.

Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls.

5% bro 5% go get it done already

You're talking about miner fee? 2%, not 5%... And we can't do this because 'it'll violate licensing' that no one gives a shit about, so we have to sell private kernels for fixed BTC! 'Cause that's different...

To be fair though, right now is definitely not a good time for a % based miner because everyones on Ethereum, but that can obviously change... Markets are very volatile. That's why you don't get involved in just one. Even BTC is quite volatile.

If SP cracks the Ethereum voodoo magic that might change though.

Ethereum is still hot BTW.

Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls.

You want people to keep donating and at the same time you call them trolls ? wtf

You can hate people all you want you have a business relationship with. It's not a donation either, basically a subscription at this point.

Ethereum is still hot BTW.

Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls.

LOL

you made my day  

I am thinking to put that into my signature  

"Bensam seems to be the only one in the thread who understand how to mine with a profit. The rest are trolls."

(best quote ever )

Eternal hate and big red letters doesn't make you more correct... Otherwise you'd win! Also sorry Cryptsy crashed and no one wanted your miner anymore though. Perhaps try selling four months earlier. You know, business sense...

Eternal hate... (where did you see that ? )
Just finding very funny that sp has to rely on you  

Your hypocrisy regarding my miner is pathetic   and no matter what, I got what I asked for (that you contributed or not)

[bensam1231]

Daytrading is a completely different jobset from mining. You could make a lot of money daytrading, you can also lose a lot. It has nothing to do with mining, just the same as making kernels doesn't. They all go together, but at the end of the day you don't even need those GPUs to do it. You could've sold them all and just switched to daytrading and made even more money.

-MORE OT-

You got a point there but nothing to do with mining? Every miner has to sell, knowing even basics about (day)trading increases profits much more than any optimized kernel.

Only miner who doesn't need trading skills is BTC bagholder who autosells everything to BTC.

Sure... You can spend a lot of time doing that though, which is why it turns into a completely different job. You could keep 'optimizing' profits, until all you're doing is spending time daytrading. At that point you could just cut off the miners and spend all the time daytrading.

[scryptr]

KUDOS TO BENSAM1231!!! --

Thanks for the wake-up call on ETH!  I finally got off my tail, put Ethminer on a stick, and got my GTX 960 rig mining with Genoil's Ethminer v1.03. 

The amount of typing involved to get all the pre-requisites in place is prodigious.  In fact, there are so many unfamiliar pre-requisites that I put the system on a bootable stick so that I could keep my CCminer box clean.  It took a while, but it runs smoothly.  I get about 11Mh/s on my 960 cards.

Thanks for the shove!       --scryptr

[Amph]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

[bathrobehero]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

http://cryptomining-blog.com/5352-some-updates-and-additional-tips-for-mining-ethereum/

970:
ethminer -F http://eth-mine.suprnova.cc:3000/login.worker/5 -U --cuda-grid-size 8192 --cuda-block-size 128

At +500 Mhz on the memory you get 19-21 Mh/s depending on memory type.

[Genoil]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

http://cryptomining-blog.com/5352-some-updates-and-additional-tips-for-mining-ethereum/

970:
ethminer -F http://eth-mine.suprnova.cc:3000/login.worker/5 -U --cuda-grid-size 8192 --cuda-block-size 128

At +500 Mhz on the memory you get 19-21 Mh/s depending on memory type.

The grid size and block size for the CUDA kernel default to 8192/128 since release 1.0.2. The main reason for NVidia to hash slower is because of A. generally narrower memory bus width and B. a memory controller implementation that is not ideal for the ethash algo. I'm not entirely sure how this works. It's on a lower level than we as developers can influence.

[ol92]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

[antonio8]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

Eth is a good coin to mine if you think the future will hold or be better but there are other coins out now that you can do better right now with. Just a little research.

I mined with 7 cards about 78 Mh/s and was getting about 2.2 coins per day. Probably less than that now since more people have started.

970 should get you 15-17  Mh/s depending on you set up. 960 about 10-12 Mh/s. 750ti about 2-4 Mh/s but I would not try with that. I seen someone post they got 8 mh/s per 750ti but I have never seen anyone confirm that while actually mining except on the testnet.

[bensam1231]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

Eth is a good coin to mine if you think the future will hold or be better but there are other coins out now that you can do better right now with. Just a little research.

I mined with 7 cards about 78 Mh/s and was getting about 2.2 coins per day. Probably less than that now since more people have started.

970 should get you 15-17  Mh/s depending on you set up. 960 about 10-12 Mh/s. 750ti about 2-4 Mh/s but I would not try with that. I seen someone post they got 8 mh/s per 750ti but I have never seen anyone confirm that while actually mining except on the testnet.

Like what? Ohhh... You wont say, but you'll tell us that you know of much better coins. Quite helpful.

You'd be hard pressed to find better profits then mining Eth right now. It's giving me about .0086 BTC per 970 per day. Next up would be Vanilla coin as it seems to be rising too, but it's much more volatile. Decred is up there too, but also quite volatile as it's brand new and untested.

I have my own private coins I mine when things get rough, but I don't expect anyone else to find them.

[Genoil]

Each instance of ethminer keeps a copy of the full dag in system RAM to validate a solution. However, if it is not present, it will perform a slightly slower "light" validation (https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/blob/master/libethcore/EthashAux.cpp line 267-276). If you would load the dag in chunks,

But if you remove cpu validation, the etherminer doesn't need to use any ram to store the dag file. The dagfile is only located in the GPU memory. Should be an option to do this, and also an option to load the file to the gpu in chunks. I am too lazy to upgrade my rigs with 8 GB of ram just to mine ETHER.

I've given this some thought. It's fairly easy to free the DAG system RAM after the GPU is loaded and switch to light verification. I've tried it and it works fine. But for a multi-GPU rig in full operation it is a bit more difficult. Before clearing the system RAM, you need to make sure all GPU's have loaded the DAG, so you would need a monitoring thread do handle that.

Then, if you would want to load the DAG in chunks, you would have to sync the loading of each chunk onto each GPU or sequentially load in chunks for each GPU.

Finally, the generation of DAG files also takes a lot of RAM. You would either need to chunk that as well, or precompute them on a separate machine.

I think a mixed mode approach that loads the right compute platform and kernel for the right card is easier to implement.

[scryptr]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

Eth is a good coin to mine if you think the future will hold or be better but there are other coins out now that you can do better right now with. Just a little research.

I mined with 7 cards about 78 Mh/s and was getting about 2.2 coins per day. Probably less than that now since more people have started.

970 should get you 15-17  Mh/s depending on you set up. 960 about 10-12 Mh/s. 750ti about 2-4 Mh/s but I would not try with that. I seen someone post they got 8 mh/s per 750ti but I have never seen anyone confirm that while actually mining except on the testnet.

ACCORDING TO GENOIL--

The 750ti cards did well untill the DAG file became too large, and 7-8Mh/s was possible early last Spring and Summer.  There was a miner on his thread that kept claiming 8-10Mh/s even last Fall, but he likely was trolling.       --scryptr

[antonio8]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

Eth is a good coin to mine if you think the future will hold or be better but there are other coins out now that you can do better right now with. Just a little research.

I mined with 7 cards about 78 Mh/s and was getting about 2.2 coins per day. Probably less than that now since more people have started.

970 should get you 15-17  Mh/s depending on you set up. 960 about 10-12 Mh/s. 750ti about 2-4 Mh/s but I would not try with that. I seen someone post they got 8 mh/s per 750ti but I have never seen anyone confirm that while actually mining except on the testnet.

Like what? Ohhh... You wont say, but you'll tell us that you know of much better coins. Quite helpful.

You'd be hard pressed to find better profits then mining Eth right now. It's giving me about .0086 BTC per 970 per day. Next up would be Vanilla coin as it seems to be rising too, but it's much more volatile. Decred is up there too, but also quite volatile as it's brand new and untested.

I have my own private coins I mine when things get rough, but I don't expect anyone else to find them.

I'll tell you mine if you tell me yours.

See how you contradicted yourself. Your last statement makes you quite helpful as well. The key statement on mine was "just a little research."

[antonio8]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

Eth is a good coin to mine if you think the future will hold or be better but there are other coins out now that you can do better right now with. Just a little research.

I mined with 7 cards about 78 Mh/s and was getting about 2.2 coins per day. Probably less than that now since more people have started.

970 should get you 15-17  Mh/s depending on you set up. 960 about 10-12 Mh/s. 750ti about 2-4 Mh/s but I would not try with that. I seen someone post they got 8 mh/s per 750ti but I have never seen anyone confirm that while actually mining except on the testnet.

ACCORDING TO GENOIL--

The 750ti cards did well untill the DAG file became too large, and 7-8Mh/s was possible early last Spring and Summer.  There was a miner on his thread that kept claiming 8-10Mh/s even last Fall, but he likely was trolling.       --scryptr

Yep scryptr I meant currently.

Someone posted yesterday that they are still getting 8 Mh/s on a 750ti but I find it hard to believe.

[bathrobehero]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

Eth is a good coin to mine if you think the future will hold or be better but there are other coins out now that you can do better right now with. Just a little research.

I mined with 7 cards about 78 Mh/s and was getting about 2.2 coins per day. Probably less than that now since more people have started.

970 should get you 15-17  Mh/s depending on you set up. 960 about 10-12 Mh/s. 750ti about 2-4 Mh/s but I would not try with that. I seen someone post they got 8 mh/s per 750ti but I have never seen anyone confirm that while actually mining except on the testnet.

15-17 Mh/s is very pessimistic. I get 19.5 Mh/s even on the gimped, one fan gigabyte cards at +500 Mhz memory.

With 19.5 Mh/s Eth is the most profitable about 22 hours a day unless you know something I don't. Decred (especially because of getwork) and Vanilla are not even in the top 3 alternatives to Eth.

[tbearhere]

i need quick response for these question

how much is one 970 doing in hashrate for ETH? and what is the argument to run ETH with it?

a quick search lead me to 980ti doing less hash than a 280x? why this?

Yes a GTX 980 ti has barely more hashrate than a GTX 980 and far lower than a R9 290X.
Eth mining is highly dependant on memory : timings, controler, bandwith, cache... and as genoil discovered of TLB (buffer for memory adress translation) capacity/performance.
For amd, hynix > elpida due to some timings. For nvidia samsung > hynix probably for the same reason.
R9 290X with hynix mem and 1150 gpu is doing about 30Mh/s. R9 390X a small bit more (better memory I guess).
Fury is aroung R9 290X/ R9 390X depending on the overclock.

On nvidia side, GTX 970 seems to be the sweet spot with a good oc around 280X perf with lower power usage (the 280x used to be better but due to increase dag size, it has lost a bit more than 10% perf).

IMO the 980ti has not been implemented yet.

[mendoza1468]

Updated ccMiner 1.7.2 fork by tpruvot With VanillaCoin and Decred Support
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases
It's free 

[sambiohazard]

Updated ccMiner 1.7.2 fork by tpruvot With VanillaCoin and Decred Support
https://github.com/tpruvot/ccminer/releases
It's free 

Now its profitable. worth 0.1 BTC lol