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December 21, 2016, 01:58:19 PM
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mine are perfectly running since months no issue so far, i like to leave them at 40% all the time and put other 14mm fan in front that do the job

they last much longer this way

Oh yeah? You know you're pampering your fans because they aren't working properly. If they worked like they're supposed to you wouldn't have to worry about 'how long they last'. You don't need to do that with Asus, MSI, EVGA, or Zotac fans.

So, no, yours aren't working fine.

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December 21, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
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For best cooling (most efficient and better at preserving the hardware) you need multiple layers of fans.
Fans on the card, fans blowing air on the cards, fans blowing fresh air into the room (or pumping hot air out), etc.
You need to find the best balance of them, and the power meter is your friend.

Exactly

@amph: that's why it's important a deep study of the ventilation, and forced flows. In my solutions with 6x vga configs, with 32°C of ambient temperature, I hadn't any problem even with 7990s. 150W tdp cards are an easy thing to manage there, plug&play
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December 21, 2016, 03:09:46 PM
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The best result i have with gtx 1070 gigabyte OC 2x , have samsung memory and overclock + 800 or plus mhz at Power Limit to 50% :



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December 21, 2016, 04:31:47 PM
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For best cooling (most efficient and better at preserving the hardware) you need multiple layers of fans.
Fans on the card, fans blowing air on the cards, fans blowing fresh air into the room (or pumping hot air out), etc.
You need to find the best balance of them, and the power meter is your friend.

Sure, room circulation is one thing... If you need to throw a bunch of fans on top you're doing something wrong. Try spacing things out better.

mine are perfectly running since months no issue so far, i like to leave them at 40% all the time and put other 14mm fan in front that do the job

they last much longer this way

Oh yeah? You know you're pampering your fans because they aren't working properly. If they worked like they're supposed to you wouldn't have to worry about 'how long they last'. You don't need to do that with Asus, MSI, EVGA, or Zotac fans.

So, no, yours aren't working fine.

there is no reason to have at faster speed either they are fine with this % of speed, less than 50° i have as a temps so...

the point is that you can easily avoid their problems not that they have no problem...

Keeping it cool? If your fans weren't there, the fans on the card would run faster. You bought fans to offset the fact that the fans on the card are garbage and you don't want to have to RMA them.

The point is the fans are garbage and you can simply buy a different model of cards and 'easily avoid the problem', also save electricity you are so keen about in addition to not having to buy extra fans. Wow, it's like a triple win... We could also add in there manpower and time in addition to the fans inevitably failing anyways, just taking longer (15 months?).

If I were to recommend cards for someone I wouldn't go 'oh hey you should buy these awesome Gigabyte 1070s, just make sure you buy three extra 140mm fans to help cool the cards, manually set the fan speeds on the card to 40% which you may need to change on all your rigs in the future if they use more energy, get hotter, and ambient temp changes, oh and those fans will more then likely fail anyway and your whole system will use more power all the while this is happening hehuk'.

You're really a dumbass sometimes.

no i didn't bought those for that reason, but because of summer, and in summer no matter at what speed you put your fan it will get to hot for your gpu, already tested

you need a tunnel effect at 30°, btw insulting don't make your argument more valid, actually it make it more irrelevant and trolling

Your GPU gets hot, good fans cool it though. I have about 1 1/2 inches between each GPU and eight above each rack. I don't need extra fans besides moving air in and out of the room.

The insult was at the end of the response where you're trying to justify adding extra fans to your GPUs because the fans on the GPUs suck makes the fans on the GPUs good. If you have to add extra fans in the first place to prevent the fans on the GPUs from failing, they're basically already broken. No other manufacturers have this problem besides PNY and XFX, all of which use the same half-height low profile fans.

The best result i have with gtx 1070 gigabyte OC 2x , have samsung memory and overclock + 800 or plus mhz at Power Limit to 50% :

Haven't had fan failures on those yet, but I'm sure they'll be coming up shortly.


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December 21, 2016, 04:51:51 PM
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For best cooling (most efficient and better at preserving the hardware) you need multiple layers of fans.
Fans on the card, fans blowing air on the cards, fans blowing fresh air into the room (or pumping hot air out), etc.
You need to find the best balance of them, and the power meter is your friend.

Exactly

@amph: that's why it's important a deep study of the ventilation, and forced flows. In my solutions with 6x vga configs, with 32°C of ambient temperature, I hadn't any problem even with 7990s. 150W tdp cards are an easy thing to manage there, plug&play


you have additional fans...he was talking about using only the fan of the gpu

Your GPU gets hot, good fans cool it though. I have about 1 1/2 inches between each GPU and eight above each rack. I don't need extra fans besides moving air in and out of the room.

well "moving fan in and out" is the same as additional fan.... it prove that the fan alone of the gpu are not enough especially in summer at 30° did you test it ?

in winter the thing is different, there is no problem even if i live my gpu spinning without additional fan and at 40% i get good temp
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December 21, 2016, 05:15:24 PM
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For best cooling (most efficient and better at preserving the hardware) you need multiple layers of fans.
Fans on the card, fans blowing air on the cards, fans blowing fresh air into the room (or pumping hot air out), etc.
You need to find the best balance of them, and the power meter is your friend.
Yes and I have a power meter on my one rig that helps me out a lot to see the power draw to cost of electricity to the going price of the coin I'm mining.
A power meter is a must to me. Smiley

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December 21, 2016, 05:59:24 PM
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Your GPU gets hot, good fans cool it though. I have about 1 1/2 inches between each GPU and eight above each rack. I don't need extra fans besides moving air in and out of the room.

well "moving fan in and out" is the same as additional fan.... it prove that the fan alone of the gpu are not enough especially in summer at 30° did you test it ?

in winter the thing is different, there is no problem even if i live my gpu spinning without additional fan and at 40% i get good temp

I've been mining for more then three years dude. Yes I've had a couple summers. You're talking about putting 140mm fans on top of the cards to 'keep them cool'. Fans moving air in and out of the room keeps the room cool, not specifically the GPUs. If you're just keeping the GPUs cool, you don't get rid of excess heat and it builds up in your server room.

The GPUs should be able to maintain their own temperature or they aren't doing their job. That's specifically one of the reasons for buying one brand over another, the cooler.

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December 21, 2016, 07:34:28 PM
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Your GPU gets hot, good fans cool it though. I have about 1 1/2 inches between each GPU and eight above each rack. I don't need extra fans besides moving air in and out of the room.

well "moving fan in and out" is the same as additional fan.... it prove that the fan alone of the gpu are not enough especially in summer at 30° did you test it ?

in winter the thing is different, there is no problem even if i live my gpu spinning without additional fan and at 40% i get good temp

I've been mining for more then three years dude. Yes I've had a couple summers. You're talking about putting 140mm fans on top of the cards to 'keep them cool'. Fans moving air in and out of the room keeps the room cool, not specifically the GPUs. If you're just keeping the GPUs cool, you don't get rid of excess heat and it builds up in your server room.

The GPUs should be able to maintain their own temperature or they aren't doing their job. That's specifically one of the reasons for buying one brand over another, the cooler.

no not on top, on the front, you know by creating the tunnel effect, without that and 30° celsius on the room it's not possible to have good temp(below 65-70°) with only the gpu fan

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December 21, 2016, 09:07:36 PM
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Went to whattomine with 970, current revenue & difficulty. 20 on ethash, 500 on cryptonight, 200 on equihash. Cryptonight came on top of that listing, I never believed this day would come.
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December 21, 2016, 09:13:25 PM
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you could squeeze 21.7 on ethash / 230-40 on equihash with 970...
I didn't know the xmr score though
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December 21, 2016, 09:34:17 PM
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you could squeeze 21.7 on ethash / 230-40 on equihash with 970...
I didn't know the xmr score though

Yes you can push them to 22-23, 240-250 and 520-530. But there is no need for that when they do 500 so silently.
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December 21, 2016, 09:46:16 PM
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yeah and a 1070 can only do 600h, something clearly wrong there
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December 21, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
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Pretty sure maxwell can't do more on xmr.

1070 can do more than 600, need to play with settings & os.
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December 22, 2016, 06:07:12 AM
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Your GPU gets hot, good fans cool it though. I have about 1 1/2 inches between each GPU and eight above each rack. I don't need extra fans besides moving air in and out of the room.

well "moving fan in and out" is the same as additional fan.... it prove that the fan alone of the gpu are not enough especially in summer at 30° did you test it ?

in winter the thing is different, there is no problem even if i live my gpu spinning without additional fan and at 40% i get good temp

I've been mining for more then three years dude. Yes I've had a couple summers. You're talking about putting 140mm fans on top of the cards to 'keep them cool'. Fans moving air in and out of the room keeps the room cool, not specifically the GPUs. If you're just keeping the GPUs cool, you don't get rid of excess heat and it builds up in your server room.

The GPUs should be able to maintain their own temperature or they aren't doing their job. That's specifically one of the reasons for buying one brand over another, the cooler.

no not on top, on the front, you know by creating the tunnel effect, without that and 30° celsius on the room it's not possible to have good temp(below 65-70°) with only the gpu fan



It's the same shit dude. Changing room temperature is quite a bit different then trying to assist the coolers. You're trying to change the subject to wiggle out of this because you know exactly how wrong you are. You literally have extra fans on your GPUS, whether pointed through the front or on the top to keep the fans at lower speeds, you said so yourself 'so they last longer', because the fans are broken. That is also why you have your fans permanently set at 40%.

This has nothing to do with room ambient temperature and there is absolutely no way you can change room temperature with a little 140mm fan. I have high flow large radius fans going in and out of the room, something in the range of 15,000CFM. For small operations people use box fans in and out of the room, those move once again about 3-4,000CFM. A 140mm fan moves roughly 150CFM. You would need 100 of those to get the same sort of flow I'm getting.  If the coolers were good you wouldn't need to do that.

Once again Gigabyte fans are absolute trash, they fail in 6-12 months without pampering them or babying them, including setting the speeds artificially low and cooling the cards with a different fan, taking them apart to oil them every couple months, or blowing them out every other month. You don't need to do that with any other video card manufacturer.

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December 22, 2016, 07:02:34 AM
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you missed my point i never said that they were good, just that you can avoid their problems by adding additional fan so they can run at lower speed

but this is not true in winter where you can leave them at lower speed regardless, it wasn't so hard to understand....
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December 22, 2016, 07:16:52 AM
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you missed my point i never said that they were good, just that you can avoid their problems by adding additional fan so they can run at lower speed

but this is not true in winter where you can leave them at lower speed regardless, it wasn't so hard to understand....

So we both agree, Gigabyte cards have shit fans and people should avoid them. Easy, to understand, right?

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December 22, 2016, 07:27:17 AM
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you could squeeze 21.7 on ethash / 230-40 on equihash with 970...
I didn't know the xmr score though

How could you achieve these hashrate?! my zotac extereme do 18.7 eth ( zotac overclocked them heavily ) and my gigabytes 970 g1 do 17.5
 

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December 22, 2016, 08:20:21 AM
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Best pool for ZCL ? .
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December 22, 2016, 10:12:46 AM
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Best pool for ZCL ? .

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December 23, 2016, 06:56:38 AM
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Not trying to preach to the choir here, but this is why we have pay miners guys. Nicehash and EWBF are competing with eachother slowly, but surely for the extra hash on their services. Whether it's a 2% dev fee or mining on Nicehash's service, they're both trying to make better miners.

I'd like to point out that Silenarmy's miner basically fell off the map once he lost interest. He moved and now even after returning he spends absolutely no time working on it. There is a reason you pay developers for their time and effort, because at the end of the day, if they aren't getting paid, they're just doing it either as charity or as a hobby. Both of those are very prone to whimsical interest of the developer. Think about how much effort you would put into mining if you didn't actually get paid and you put the same work into it? Almost nothing? Yeah...

Encourage paid development. As long as it's fair and honest, developers should always get paid so they continue to do what they do. Miners need developers as much as they need mining hardware.


Lets not forget individuals that went out of their way to harp on people for wanting faster miners too. There were plenty of people that either hated on you or would down talk you for wanting just as fast of a miner as Claymore or for thinking that Nvidia could get remotely close to his speeds. Low and behold now not only is EWBF and Nicehash faster then Claymore, they're also more efficient. Getting almost close to 2x the hashrate of a 480, which is about on par with what speeds we should be getting. There are a lot of ignorant and uninformed opinions floating around the forums. They just go off of what they know and like 90% of the miners here are born from Ethereum AMD mining.

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