>> WARNING: COINSORTIUM and ARDEVA SCAM >> Identity theft

[RiverBoatBTC]

Dude your not even the owner your some PR employee Shill

I think you fail to see the point of the Cite, the US gov does not care if you operating legally in YOUR country. If you have U.S. citizens involved in any sort of way they will do as the please. If you think any different you are daft.

Not only that I can not prove it but I am about 75% sure the owner got all his funds to start that exchange by ripping people off with HYIP's

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[RiverBoatBTC]

Bet you moderators do.... wait .... wait... nothing cause they have already called jayc89 told him he is a liar, if he lies about simple things why would he not lie about serious business things.

How about you or him address the issues instead of crying to the mods like jayc89 when he got called out for being a liar.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=517340.msg5721016#msg5721016

I´ll leave that for someone else.

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RiverBoatBTC's Illegal site

And remember, ponzis accept only cryptocoin, YOU accept also REAL MONEY.

Report it to the registrar - abuse@ahnames.com
And the hosting company - http://www.leaseweb.com/en/about-us/contact

lose btc today lose it tomorrow why does it matter your going to lose it ponzi boy

You think I just play ponzis all day or something lol? Only reason I'm talking so much about them is because of stupid threads like this.

You are not doing the community any favour by making them lose their btc, idiot.

It's actually really sad what you're doing. Almost all of you anti-ponzi guys talk like little kids, its hilarious.  

No use arguing with them - dont feed the trolls. Just report his site  

Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "

Yet he is looking for a 4-5BTC loan LOL the site would be screwed if they had a big winner. O no, wait, they just wouldnt pay out hahaha. SCAM.

Then you went in his thread and posted these replies.

A gambling site with no max deposit yet the OP needs a 4-5BTC loan to keep it running?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=510879.msg5640097#msg5640097

I would avoid this site like the plague!

Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "

Yet he is looking for a 4-5BTC loan LOL the site would be screwed if they had a big winner. O no, wait, they just wouldnt pay out hahaha. SCAM.

Sure sure guy, keep with the sheeple

I'm just going with the facts in front of us

Did some cut and pasting to place our discussion in the right thread.

"Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer."

I got it from a investment so it is there now, but thanks for reading if I scam you on my site you can

scream it from the roof tops

Got any proof that you actually have it?

No have lol

This dude is a dodgy as all the ponzi operators he is trying to close down. It's time to turn the tables!

After this is when he started posting in your thread. Looks more like YOU started griefing him and calling him a scammer because of a "difference of opinion", now he's just returning the favor. Nothing worse than liars, stop trying to waste our time with bullshit you started.  


Now is this the petty type person you want to be doing business with or trusting your assets to or coins with? I think not that ARDEVA is just a scam, its just a ploy to make people FEEL SAFE, they are not doing anything to safe guard investments and the "Check" they do can be forged with DNM docs real simple. They have 0 access to actual background checking or document confirmation software so it would seem.

[AcoinL.L.C]

SEC has jurisdiction anywhere that accepts US investors. I would guess that ~50% of your listed assets are US based anyways... As for investors? 50-75%.

SEC has jurisdiction within the United States alone, if they write to us we will dump the letter.
Instead if our local securities agency writes to us we will comply with the requests.

My friend... do not spread FUD when you do not know the reality of things. We do not want to go to jail so we hired a business attorney before going live.

The reality of the situation is this: Your accepting deposits from non-accredited US investors and allowing them to trade through your site. You are allowing US companies to raise capital without them being licensed to do so. That is YOUR responsibility, just as much as it is the asset owners. Throw out / ignore SEC letters, your going to end up in a US prison. Your blatantly breaking the law. Not to mention a "business attorney", what are you referring to exactly? You need to talk with a securities lawyer. And they will tell you the same thing I am telling you.

[AcoinL.L.C]

Reported to moderation, if anyone has serious questions about our business please visit Coinsortium.co and head for the support section.

For what exactly? Your knowingly breaking the law.

[abstream]

Hey Fred from Ardeva
 If I can call you Fred that is you might not want to be so friendly with me after this. You claim to vet IPO's and the owners correct? How come your vetting does not reflect the owner of QuintoBTC being a convicted felon? I think that is very important info when investing in a company. What are you doing exactly to vet these people just prove they are who the say they are?

Edit. Your a construction company correct?

Edit. Just started looking your stuff back over again... You list your IPO on the site you vet for and give yourself 100% rating. RED ALERT RED ALERT. That is what we call unethical in the business world.

Hey RiverBoatBTC!

#1 - The only thing we claim is that we verified the informations we asked for in our verification modules. We do not have a "Criminal Case" verification module yet, but this is definitively something we want to add in the future. Take a look at his Ardeva profile, check the name of the verification module and the status next to it. We do not claim anything more than the fact that we verified that information.

#2 - A construction company? I'm not sure what you mean about that.

#3 - I test each and every module we put up on Ardeva. I do not approve my own documents, my partner does it, and I did the same for his documents. We had no choice to had a Gov ID + Address verified Ardeva account to list on Coinsortium - we can't circumvent that, it's required for others so it's required for us too.

Feel free to ask if you have any more questions!

Regards,
Fred

As a business who intends to use NXT AE in order to deliver added value services for investors and business owners I do have few concerns with ardeva:

1)How do you verify national id cards? do you actually do some checks with national government agencies?
2)Can you give us more info on your verification module and how you execute them - I find myself confused doing due diligence on YOU!
3)What happens if one of my clients that I have pointed to ardeva gets all the money and run away - what guarantee do I have that you will reveal his/her identity? Are you ready to sign a contract with my company with regards to this?
4)If your business is serious ( our judgement really depends on how you answer 1-3) then how come that it is all free?! sorry but it does not sound realistic. If it becomes a paid service - please tell us what would be the pricing model - how do we plan our own budget?!
5)Don't you think that you shall answer all those questions on your website?
6)I think that a company like this shall have at least a phone number - just an email is not serious.


TO ALL: what alternative do we have to aredeva - what would be a reputable identity verification platform that is affordable for the small business?

[rileyA.]

Riley Alexander here from Ardeva. Thanks for the questions and I hope this answers them.

Our document verification procedures are more in depth then easily being able to photoshop an ID. We request 3 photos be uploaded.
1. The user must upload the front of ID
2. The user must upload the Back of ID
3. The user must upload a picture of them holding up the ID next to their face ALONG with a 4 digit UNIQUE number that is generated just for their particular verification.
We check the ID for verifiable security features that can be seen. Documents are then encrypted and sent to offline storage.

As far as your 6 questions, here is my answers:
1. Was explained above.
2. Was explained above.
3. Ardeva is still in young state. We have new updates almost daily. Our terms do allow for release of documents in the following conditions:

​​"DISCLOSURE OF ACCOUNT INFORMATION. COMPANY will not disclose any information to third parties about you, including email addresses, or your Account, except in the situations described below. We will disclose such information:

    to verify the condition and existence of your Account for a third party, such as a credit bureau or merchant;
    to persons authorized by law in the course of their official duties;
    to a consumer reporting agency as defined by Applicable Law;
    to comply with a government agency or court order, such as a lawful subpoena;
    to COMPANY employees, auditors, service providers, attorneys or collection agents in the course of their duties; or
    if you give COMPANY written permission (including by email); or
    to any party with a valid legally binding arbitration letter."

4. As stated above, we are making updates daily. Our service is currently and will ALWAYS be free for users to enter information. We offer API integrations with companies such as coinsortium.co to leverage information from our database and those are paid integrations. We also are on the verge of offering PAID business verifications. That is how we plan to receive income. For now we are trying to grow our userbase and gain acceptance in the community.
5. ​​We are currently doing a complete site re-design to make it easier for the answers to these questions to be found. We apologize for the temporary confusion.
6. ​We actually set up a VOIP number the other day and once we have voicemail and forwarding set up, we will be posting the number on the website. We are a small team of 2 who have other commitments so currently do not have regular hours where the phone would be staffed..

I will post this same message on BCTalk as well for transparency.

I appreciate all your questions and feel free to let me know if you have any others. As stated, we are currently in a growing phase and expect to see many changes with ardeva over the next few weeks. ​​​​

[RiverBoatBTC]

Its simple why its all free, they are not doing nothing but collecting documents.

I will put 1BTC that someone could get through "verification" with 100% faked docs.


Facts:
1) You do no background checks
2) You have no way to run ID's
3) You are collecting people's Information but they have no Idea who you are.
4) You have verified known felons and gave them a stamp of approval.

[RiverBoatBTC]

I will put 1BTC that someone could get through "verification" with 100% faked docs.

Is this another of your known FUDs? Otherwise I'll fetch a known forum escrow to hold your coins while anyone attempts to get past with 100% faked docs.

Post reported to moderation, of course

I told you this service was no good, my friend  registered with a FAKE ID and they accepted it.....


http://www.reddit.com/r/fakeid

[RiverBoatBTC]

I told you this service was no good, my friend  registered with a FAKE ID and they accepted it.....

You can certainly provide us with a token to verify what you just said, right?

I will ask him but I think he is going to prove a point and pull as scam first lol.

[RiverBoatBTC]

I will tell you exactly how he did it so any other person who wants to take advantage of you flawed system can do it as well.

He went to EVO, bought someones full information. Had a fake ID made with all that information, dob, address, ect.

total cost $30

Should have put the 1BTC in escrow lol.

[RiverBoatBTC]

I will tell you exactly how he did it so any other person who wants to take advantage of you flawed system can do it as well.

He went to EVO, bought someones full information. Had a fake ID made with all that information, dob, address, ect.

total cost $30

Should have put the 1BTC in escrow lol.

Provide a verified token from the site or GTFO  
Do you have an idea about how many times I heard this b*****t? Here is a hint: it is in the hundreds.

Just wait, I am going to make you look like a total fucking ass lol

[RiverBoatBTC]

Just wait, I am going to make you look like a total fucking ass lol

The only one who should be ashamed is the moderator who allows random trolls like you to disturb serious people

You should be ashamed for verifying a felon on consortium.... and then giving yourself a 100% verification rating 

[RiverBoatBTC]

You should be ashamed for verifying a felon on consortium.... and then giving yourself a 100% verification rating 

Sure sure... err, your verified token please? I will verify it so do not try to post a rendom sequence of letters and numbers.

I would never verify myself on your site lol, I told you I know someone who was verified by your system with a fake ID. I told them to take it as far as they possibly could to prove a point.

The results will be posted when done.

But still you verified Qbond Mr Steve Swanson is a felon.....

[RiverBoatBTC]

I would never verify myself on your site lol, I told you I know someone who was verified by your system with a fake ID. I told them to take it as far as they possibly could to prove a point.

I know a friend who has a friend who knows a dude who has ..... etc etc etc.
Also you are the true criminal here since you are soliciting your friend to commit illegal activity.... you can't do any damage to Coinsortium, only to the community.

Shame on you.  

No I am showing you have a exploit you fail to see or change.... Its like telling a bank you have a whole in your wall and you need to patch it.
The bank says, its the criminals fault if they go through the hole....

If you would fix what I have told you to fix since the time you have started it would not have come to this, but the fact that you are offering people a sense of false security is

Irresponsible and makes you Liable

[Killerloop]

No I am showing you have a exploit you fail to see or change.... Its like telling a bank you have a whole in your wall and you need to patch it.

Sure, point the hole and we will fix it. So far you only said "you have a hole... somewhere" with no actual proof or anything. We are used to people like you trying to attack to extort some kind of benefit... everyone got rebuffed 


Get real, man up and show proof.

[RiverBoatBTC]

No I am showing you have a exploit you fail to see or change.... Its like telling a bank you have a whole in your wall and you need to patch it.

Sure, point the hole and we will fix it. So far you only said "you have a hole... somewhere" with no actual proof or anything. We are used to people like you trying to attack to extort some kind of benefit... everyone got rebuffed  


Get real, man up and show proof.

QBOND owner Steven Swanson is A CONVICTED FELON and you gave him a good rating..... FIX IT lol

I am not extorting you but I am not going to work for free either.

Or does Felon not translate to Italian?

[Killerloop]

QBOND owner Steven Swanson is A CONVICTED FELON and you gave him a good rating..... FIX IT lol

First: Coinsortium is not Ardeva.
Second: the score you see is directly proportional to the amount of information you provide and its quality. Period. A professional stock exchange like us CANNOT make judgements or advertise anything listed. It is illegal in our jurisdiction.

Users are able to do their due diligence thanks to Ardeva and decide if the investment is worth their money or not. We do not provide investment advice.

I am not extorting you but I am not going to work for free either.

Get real.

[RiverBoatBTC]

QBOND owner Steven Swanson is A CONVICTED FELON and you gave him a good rating..... FIX IT lol

First: Coinsortium is not Ardeva.
Second: the score you see is directly proportional to the amount of information you provide and its quality. Period. A professional stock exchange like us CANNOT make judgements or advertise anything listed. It is illegal in our jurisdiction.

Users are able to do their due diligence thanks to Ardeva and decide if the investment is worth their money or not. We do not provide investment advice.

I am not extorting you but I am not going to work for free either.

Get real.

Care to explain the contradiction?

Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?
Sums up Ardeva below.

We Ardeva hold what we believe to be real I.D. but we have no way to check to be sure it is real. So if something was to happen we think we know who this guy is but our system is so flawed we can not prove it.

Hence giving people a false sense of security.

[Killerloop]

Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?

Cannot be done.
Get real, man up, show proof and stop spreading FUD... you are indeed worth your reputation.

[RiverBoatBTC]

Then your service is worthless.... what  good does it do if some sends you 100% fake documents that you can not verify?

Cannot be done.
Get real, man up, show proof and stop spreading FUD... you are indeed worth your reputation.

Can not be done? are you fucking kidding me? Do I need to pull the 100+ people I have in depth background checks for in here to prove it?