[ANN][Blocknet] truly decentralized exchange | token ecosystem infrastructure

[atcsecure]

We have our blocks and not looking to profit any time soon.

"not looking to profit any time soon"...or ever for that matter...

See what happens when you involve Bobsurplus in your plans, Dan?

More lies from a troll shillaccount!!! Bobsurplus isn't involved any of my plans or any plans related to any project I'm involved with..

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[synechist]

Banned.

Don't post here again.

[crackfoo]

DHT

- Distributed Hash Tables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table

So you're not going to use true P2P anymore?

[atcsecure]

We have our blocks and not looking to profit any time soon.

"not looking to profit any time soon"...or ever for that matter...

See what happens when you involve Bobsurplus in your plans, Dan?

More lies from a troll shillaccount!!! Bobsurplus isn't involved any of my plans or any plans related to any project I'm involved with..

The truth of the matter is that I protected Blocknet from Bobsurplus and his pump scheme that he was attempting.  ** Numerous people came out of the wood work when I launched Blocknet, trying to get involved either for greed or to scam or to FUD **

[synechist]

DHT

- Distributed Hash Tables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table

So you're not going to use true P2P anymore?

Huh? We never claimed that DHT isn't true P2P.

What we did claim, however, is that RPC calls aren't a true P2P protocol. I think you got confused there.

(Also, we will use serverless DHT.)

[crackfoo]

DHT

- Distributed Hash Tables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table

So you're not going to use true P2P anymore?

Huh? We never claimed that DHT isn't true P2P.

What we did claim, however, is that RPC calls aren't a true P2P protocol. I think you got confused there.

(Also, we will use serverless DHT.)

ohhh???

2. I'm also curious about the p2p claims that are written. Maybe I'm missing something here and if you could enlighten me I would appreciate it. But SuperNET is using an implementation of Kademlia for p2p nodes, which is the same technology that Bittorrent is built on and as far as I know using such a protocol would quality as 'true p2p'.

Kademlia... that's distributed hash tables, aka DHT. DHT uses servers to lookup and locate nodes. Therefore it's not truly distributed, thus not P2P.
In contrast, the Xnode protocol, upon which the XBridge is based, is completely serverless in operation and truly distributed.

[synechist]

ohhh???

Kademlia

You may have failed to notice that the post that you quoted does not assert that DHT isn't true P2P; it asserts that Kademlia - and whatever else Bittorrent uses - isn't.
If I happened not to add, for completeness of expression, that some DHT is serverless, that doesn't mean we're now using a method that isn't true P2P.

With respect to DHT, being serverless is what counts as far as I'm aware.
With respect to inter-node communication, using a P2P protocol and not RPC calls is what counts.
Lastly, it'll benefit you to recall that Dan has proposed a hybrid DHT-mesh.

[crackfoo]

ohhh???

Kademlia

You may have failed to notice that the post that you quoted does not assert that DHT isn't true P2P; it asserts that Kademlia - and whatever else Bittorrent uses - isn't.
If I happened not to add, for completeness of expression, that some DHT is serverless, that doesn't mean we're now using a method that isn't true P2P.

With respect to DHT, being serverless is what counts as far as I'm aware.
With respect to inter-node communication, using a P2P protocol and not RPC calls is what counts.
Lastly, it'll benefit you to recall that Dan has proposed a hybrid DHT-mesh.

Oh my bad, this was the part I think you think you thought it wasn't, I think?

Kademlia... that's distributed hash tables, aka DHT. DHT uses servers to lookup and locate nodes. Therefore it's not truly distributed, thus not P2P.

I think the benefit here, for you, is that what you're doing is done so you can do what you do best which is twisty fluff like the best of them.

[atcsecure]

ohhh???

Kademlia

You may have failed to notice that the post that you quoted does not assert that DHT isn't true P2P; it asserts that Kademlia - and whatever else Bittorrent uses - isn't.
If I happened not to add, for completeness of expression, that some DHT is serverless, that doesn't mean we're now using a method that isn't true P2P.

With respect to DHT, being serverless is what counts as far as I'm aware.
With respect to inter-node communication, using a P2P protocol and not RPC calls is what counts.
Lastly, it'll benefit you to recall that Dan has proposed a hybrid DHT-mesh.

Oh my bad, this was the part I think you think you thought it wasn't, I think?

Kademlia... that's distributed hash tables, aka DHT. DHT uses servers to lookup and locate nodes. Therefore it's not truly distributed, thus not P2P.

I think the benefit here, for you, is that what you're doing is done so you can do what you do best which is twisty fluff like the best of them.

Thats not the intent at all, we are working at getting some stable p2p code available for testing, the exact FINAL spec's are not decided yet.

[stealth923]

ohhh???

Kademlia

You may have failed to notice that the post that you quoted does not assert that DHT isn't true P2P; it asserts that Kademlia - and whatever else Bittorrent uses - isn't.
If I happened not to add, for completeness of expression, that some DHT is serverless, that doesn't mean we're now using a method that isn't true P2P.

With respect to DHT, being serverless is what counts as far as I'm aware.
With respect to inter-node communication, using a P2P protocol and not RPC calls is what counts.
Lastly, it'll benefit you to recall that Dan has proposed a hybrid DHT-mesh.

Oh my bad, this was the part I think you think you thought it wasn't, I think?

Kademlia... that's distributed hash tables, aka DHT. DHT uses servers to lookup and locate nodes. Therefore it's not truly distributed, thus not P2P.

I think the benefit here, for you, is that what you're doing is done so you can do what you do best which is twisty fluff like the best of them.

Lol post of the week.

Just out of curiosity. There are so many coins involved with blocknet. Why is it only the xc dev and xc pr talk in here???  Where are the other coin devs and other coin community members?

[mxxxxxx]

Lol post of the week.

Just out of curiosity. There are so many coins involved with blocknet. Why is it only the xc dev and xc pr talk in here???  Where are the other coin devs and other coin community members?

We are here, don`t forget that we are working constantly on improving and delivering new features for our communities too

Cheers

[cryptico]

ohhh???

Kademlia

You may have failed to notice that the post that you quoted does not assert that DHT isn't true P2P; it asserts that Kademlia - and whatever else Bittorrent uses - isn't.
If I happened not to add, for completeness of expression, that some DHT is serverless, that doesn't mean we're now using a method that isn't true P2P.

With respect to DHT, being serverless is what counts as far as I'm aware.
With respect to inter-node communication, using a P2P protocol and not RPC calls is what counts.
Lastly, it'll benefit you to recall that Dan has proposed a hybrid DHT-mesh.

Oh my bad, this was the part I think you think you thought it wasn't, I think?

Kademlia... that's distributed hash tables, aka DHT. DHT uses servers to lookup and locate nodes. Therefore it's not truly distributed, thus not P2P.

I think the benefit here, for you, is that what you're doing is done so you can do what you do best which is twisty fluff like the best of them.

which part of serverless DHT you do not get..and stealth still trolling here? you are pathetic trolling XC related stuff since may. you really trust Dark though since you do not loose one to attack competitors. What if Dark will join blocknet? Will you go outside Evan 's home trolling his family for 5 years?

[spookycoins]

There should be some sort of award for having to deal with ignorant FUD accounts.
Best advice is to just ignore them.

[WhiteNotWright]

Bob Surplus (lol)

I am both honored and offended.

[pinkman12345]

I'm confused. I am not a troll as i have invested quite heavy (for me personally) into BLOCK. But... i can not see how the decision of buy walls at 25k on both polo and trex is such a tough one to make? Here are my reasons:

1. You obviously believe that BLOCK will succeed, so, putting large buy walls there would only be temporary loss of BTC in your funding pot.

2. Anyone who has invested will have at least a small percentage of proof that this is not a scam and that you have faith in your own project.

3. I have read that other people are behind this buy wall at 25k idea. If nothing else this would make a lot of people rest easy on this thread.

Please don't accuse me of being a FUDster as i am not, i just think the 25k buy wall is a no lose idea (obvs if you believe that BLOCK is going to succeed) so i cant see how this is such a hard decision to make.

[itod]

Please don't accuse me of being a FUDster as i am not, i just think the 25k buy wall is a no lose idea (obvs if you believe that BLOCK is going to succeed) so i cant see how this is such a hard decision to make.

Since you do not post "Blocknet to the moon!" hails you are automatically a FUDster, and if you think anyone will now exchange his BTC for Blocknet @ 0.00025 rate you are also naive. Those BTC are not coming back to the exchanges.

[synechist]

No Itod, pinkman12345 is not a fudster.

However (s)he would be mistaken in thinking that we find the decision whether to put up a buy wall a tough one. Not sure where that idea came from.


Can I ask you, Itod, to post constructively in future? Your post are almost always denigrating, and there's no need for that.

[delulo]

Thanks for your answer so far.
You have used a lot of terms that are unknown to me:
Xnode protocol

- The protocol that XCurrency nodes use to communicate. It's end-to-end encrypted and completely serverless.

XBridge

- The protocol that all Blocknet-enabled nodes will use to communicate, across different blockchains.

Telehash

- http://telehash.org/

DHT

- Distributed Hash Tables: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_hash_table

mesh

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesh_networking

interim wallet

- We have released regular PoS wallets for holders of Blocknet tokens to use.
- This is only for the interim period between the ITO and the launch of the Blocknet's technology.

If I would want to invest I would need two things:
1) A document that explains
a) what specific / consumer oriented end-product you want to achieve

The OP should do this adequately, but I can put it in a sentence if you like: the Blocknet makes the features of every altcoin integrated into it a service rendered to every participating coin. That said, it's not directly consumer oriented; it's an infrastructure. The apps/wallets that developers create will be consumer-oriented.

b) how you want to achieve it technically: Explained as detailed but at the same time as easily as possible (NO hiding behind fancy words)

You can start with this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.msg9296247#msg9296247
And then move onto this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=829576.msg9306600#msg9306600

2) A presentation of the whole team where all relevant team members are publically known.

Dan Metcalf's identity is public, and so is mine: http://xc-official.com/the-xc-team/
When the foundation and team is formalised, you can expect more people's identities to be made public (though not necessarily everyone's).

Do you have such documents yet? Have the marketing material / and marketing terms been prepared before the technology / concept has been prepared?

Yes, the marketing has been prepared before the technology. The terms of the ITO entail funding first, code later. Presumably anyone not happy with this proposal didn't buy Blocknet tokens.

I am not getting any wiser here...
What is the problem and how do you solve it?

[synechist]

I am not getting any wiser here...
What is the problem and how do you solve it?

The problem:
"Cryptocurrency projects share a common dream. It is of a future free of central control and the abuses of liberty it engenders... But cryptocurrencies today function as isolated islands, with separate blockchains, nodes and users. As such, our innovations have limited usage, and one project’s advances cannot generate revenue in other networks. Further, this isolation saps resources if multiple projects develop solutions already created by others. While each project on its own is valuable, our combined technology and development skill is priceless."

The solution: an inter-blockchain application platform enabling each coin's features to function as services on every coin's apps.

[WhiteNotWright]

I am not getting any wiser here...
What is the problem and how do you solve it?

The problem:
"Cryptocurrency projects share a common dream. It is of a future free of central control and the abuses of liberty it engenders... But cryptocurrencies today function as isolated islands, with separate blockchains, nodes and users. As such, our innovations have limited usage, and one project’s advances cannot generate revenue in other networks. Further, this isolation saps resources if multiple projects develop solutions already created by others. While each project on its own is valuable, our combined technology and development skill is priceless."

The solution: an inter-blockchain application platform enabling each coin's features to function as services on every coin's apps.

I don't think you can explain it any better.