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[hybridsole]

CANN developer admits he owns another 5 million pre-mined coins with "no plans to burn".

[mullakuz]

Just bought more $Cann.

[NewWorldCoiner]

CANN developer admits he owns another 5 million pre-mined coins with "no plans to burn".

Great. So for months people have thought there's no premine, and it turns out that there is a premine after all.

Didn't think to let us know eh? Slipped your mind? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=661885.msg8222374#msg8222374

Pretty soon devs will need Proof of Polygraph if they want to launch a coin. And the mad thing is most people here wouldn't have begrudged a little premine on this coin. But keeping quiet about the fact you have 17 million coins kicking around until someone pulls you up on it is pretty damning.

He could have at least got a kilo of weed for the event and stuck to the 3 grams per customer, I mean shit bro, you got a 5 tonne premine ffs.

[jingoba]

I'm a scuba diver, have been for 40 years. The thing I like about scuba is the industry made a decision early on to develop their own standards and have mostly kept regulators out of their business.

That is what we need here, self regulation, expose the real actual dollar rip-offs. Protect patients. the only way to do that is expose premines that were undisclosed.

I love it that so many say they are leaving CCN over this, because I am actively buying more. Problem is, there doesn't seem to be that many sellers. So I suppose those investors were small. or simply not seeling.

[tokyopotato]

CANN developer admits he owns another 5 million pre-mined coins with "no plans to burn".

Now the entire story has been told.  Even after hiding the premine, then being outed and burning 14 million, DeltaNineDev admits he still has 6% of the total coin supply from CANN pre-mine.

[hybridsole]

Instead of refuting any of these facts, the only response from CANN is to attack the messenger.  Delta9 went on a ban spree last night on IRC and kicked out anyone with a dissenting point of view.  Even though these questions have surfaced 18 million coins that were unaccounted for and forced Delta9 to burn 14 million of them, the response is to still attack and ban anyone with a question about the pre-mine.

For anyone who has been involved with bitcoin or cryptocurrency for more than a couple of months, it is obvious that this is a very amateur operation being run by CANN with zero respect for the blockchain asset ledger.  18m coins unaccounted for until this week, with any and all questions resulting in a ban from the developer. 

Delta9 and CannabisCoin will go down in the crypto history books as one of the most blatant examples of pre-mine theft. 


 

[solid12345]

Delta9 and CannabisCoin will go down in the crypto history books as one of the most blatant examples of pre-mine theft. 

How can you steal from your own creation?

Whether it is ethical or not, it's him who spent the money to build that grow facility and it's him who created the coin, he stole from no one.

I'm sure the majority of Microsoft shareholders could care less 30 years later that Bill Gates and Balmer lied to IBM and bought DOS for a few thousand dollars and flipped it for millions.

[tokyopotato]

Delta9 and CannabisCoin will go down in the crypto history books as one of the most blatant examples of pre-mine theft. 

Whether it is ethical or not, it's him who spent the money to build that grow facility and it's him who created the coin, he stole from no one.

Solid12345, why don't you go find out the truth about that and report back.

[solid12345]

Delta9 and CannabisCoin will go down in the crypto history books as one of the most blatant examples of pre-mine theft. 

Whether it is ethical or not, it's him who spent the money to build that grow facility and it's him who created the coin, he stole from no one.

Solid12345, why don't you go find out the truth about that and report back.

I don't know about the grow facility specifically but I did my research to know Delta 9 owns a string of successful revenue producing businesses that would well afford him to purchase such a facility. 

[passion4cannabis]

Delta9 and CannabisCoin will go down in the crypto history books as one of the most blatant examples of pre-mine theft. 

Whether it is ethical or not, it's him who spent the money to build that grow facility and it's him who created the coin, he stole from no one.

Solid12345, why don't you go find out the truth about that and report back.

I don't know about the grow facility specifically but I did my research to know Delta 9 owns a string of successful revenue producing businesses that would well afford him to purchase such a facility. 

So he is not only a DEV but himself an investor into a vision not for his own benefit but FOR THE PATIENTS?

GoodGuyDev DeltaNine 

[Annington]

Did anyone really expect honesty from a drug dealer?

[hybridsole]

I'm sure the majority of Microsoft shareholders could care less 30 years later that Bill Gates and Balmer lied to IBM and bought DOS for a few thousand dollars and flipped it for millions.

Bill Gates and Ballmer would be in jail if they did what Delta9 did, despite the fact that it's "their creation".  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embezzlement

Many founders of companies are sitting behind bars today because they willfully hid money from investors or tax collectors.  This is no different.

[tokyopotato]

CANN going on the offensive against CCN - suspicious alright! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833303

[burnbabyburn71]

CANN going on the offensive against CCN - suspicious alright! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833303

Lol I think its fairly justified after CCN (including you) went on the offensive against CANN not to long ago. You should just give up, CCN is worthless. "If you can't beat them, join them".

[burnbabyburn71]

I'm sure the majority of Microsoft shareholders could care less 30 years later that Bill Gates and Balmer lied to IBM and bought DOS for a few thousand dollars and flipped it for millions.

Bill Gates and Ballmer would be in jail if they did what Delta9 did, despite the fact that it's "their creation".  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embezzlement

Many founders of companies are sitting behind bars today because they willfully hid money from investors or tax collectors.  This is no different.

There is no evidence showing the Delta9 intentionally hid the money. Also this isn't the stock market, this is crypto.

[burnbabyburn71]

CANN developer admits he owns another 5 million pre-mined coins with "no plans to burn".

Now the entire story has been told.  Even after hiding the premine, then being outed and burning 14 million, DeltaNineDev admits he still has 6% of the total coin supply from CANN pre-mine.

And he's using them for what? To improve Cannabiscoin?? what a monster, lets all get out our pitch forks then.

[tokyopotato]

There is no evidence showing the Delta9 intentionally hid the money. Also this isn't the stock market, this is crypto.

Since you asked for it again

[tokyopotato]

And again

Dev has more coins than the original 14million claimed! Add another 6.6+ Million!

Here is the block chain analysis of the pre-mined data of this coin. If anyone can provide scrypt blockchain and ill will then furthur give you 100% confirmation of all transactions made on the blockchain.

As you can see, there are 1,465,379 CANN coins directly linked to bittrex from the Dev teams pre-mine not paid out to miners.
Secondly you will see 5,202,379 Not yet redeemed just as you saw linked to the 29 burn addresses .



You can see there was activity on the following 5 million moved from pre-mine can CANN wallet 28 minutes after the burn that occurred between 1AM - 2:16AM PST on OCT 22nd. This looks as is someone is hiding something...  

[burnbabyburn71]

And again

Dev has more coins than the original 14million claimed! Add another 6.6+ Million!

Here is the block chain analysis of the pre-mined data of this coin. If anyone can provide scrypt blockchain and ill will then furthur give you 100% confirmation of all transactions made on the blockchain.

As you can see, there are 1,465,379 CANN coins directly linked to bittrex from the Dev teams pre-mine not paid out to miners.
Secondly you will see 5,202,379 Not yet redeemed just as you saw linked to the 29 burn addresses .



You can see there was activity on the following 5 million moved from pre-mine can CANN wallet 28 minutes after the burn that occurred between 1AM - 2:16AM PST on OCT 22nd. This looks as is someone is hiding something...  

Well its the only wallet with 5 million in it and that other IRC screenshot shows that Delta9 does indeed have control over that 5 million. Unless that screenshot of the IRC is fake, anyone could photoshop that. You have a history of using intentionally small and specific bits of information to twist the truth. You also use methods like spamming infographics and baseless FUD all over the place. Your credibility is therefore non existent to me, as I'm sure you understand. I'll be looking into this further myself though, and If I find any actual solid evidence I'll be sure to post it here.

If you look beyond the premine you'll notice this coin has a huge community and serious supporters though. The dev himself showed that this coin can and will be used in the real world for transactions, giving it value beyond potential future profits for traders and miners. This coin has far more value than the large majority of other alt coins, I don't want people to forget that.

[Spoetnik]

Tokyo from the pictures you posted on the last page here that looks VERY very bad !
I support you on this
..the info you provided is compelling and intriguing and also damning to the delta dev guy.

Good work exposing this scam artist guys !