ALL CASINOS THAT CHEAT ARE ON NOTICE!

[The Players Edge]

This thread will serve as repository for showing how casinos are cheating you. I will be putting my skills to use to investigate casinos that are suspected of cheating. Many people here don't know me, but I consider myself an exploit specialist: http://exploitspecialist.com  I'm not a tech guy, just someone who is a beast when it comes to testing and coming up with unique ideas and methods.

OUR FIRST CONTESTANT: DREAMLAND CASINO

Here it is: http://vimeo.com/110040994   Password to watch: dreamland.  It's 21 minutes in length because I didn't want to edit anything down and have an issue with someone accusing me of setting it up to make it look like its rigged. As such, there is some wasted time in the video and me mumbling on, lol. But I wanted to be as transparent as I could with this and not have any edits while I was going through the motions.

I already knew about their cheating before today via my previous testing on their site. I noticed they just launched some BTC giveaway to lure players in. Well, it's time to give you an example of who they really are. Even when the player has the advantage (which will be shown via my game manipulation video), you cannot overcome the house when they cheat. So how can a regular player beat the house? They can't!  Stay tuned later today and I will have a video linked here with my analysis of what's going on.

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[robmob]

Looking forward to reading or seeing more about this, I myself is currently testing casinos as well to leave a review on my community for the members.

[Oldminer]

[myohmy81]

do not cheat casino games like dice   
Be clear games such as binary option 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=813554

[bitcoinproplayer]

This thread will serve as repository for showing how casinos are cheating you. I will be putting my skills to use to investigate casinos that are suspected of cheating. Many people here don't know me, but I consider myself an exploit specialist: http://exploitspecialist.com  I don't even consider myself a tech guy, just someone who is a beast when it comes to testing and coming up with unique ideas and methods.

OUR FIRST CONTESTANT: DREAMLAND CASINO

I already knew about their cheating before today via my previous testing on their site. I noticed they just launched some BTC giveaway to lure players in. Well, it's time to give you an example of who they really are. Later today I'll be making a video going through a particular type of game manipulation on their site (called the "Skip") and showing how they cheat on the backend.  Even when the player has the advantage (which will be shown via my game manipulation video), you cannot overcome the house when they cheat. So how can a regular player beat the house? They can't!  Stay tuned later today and I will have a video linked here with my analysis of what's going on.

Does marketing not work for http://exploitspecialist.com/
And all you could do is blame other websites to promote your own business? That is a cheap strategy ...

We already know how casinos are cheating: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

We do not need your "beast" marketing skills to promote your own business.

[The Players Edge]

This thread will serve as repository for showing how casinos are cheating you. I will be putting my skills to use to investigate casinos that are suspected of cheating. Many people here don't know me, but I consider myself an exploit specialist: http://exploitspecialist.com  I don't even consider myself a tech guy, just someone who is a beast when it comes to testing and coming up with unique ideas and methods.

OUR FIRST CONTESTANT: DREAMLAND CASINO

I already knew about their cheating before today via my previous testing on their site. I noticed they just launched some BTC giveaway to lure players in. Well, it's time to give you an example of who they really are. Later today I'll be making a video going through a particular type of game manipulation on their site (called the "Skip") and showing how they cheat on the backend.  Even when the player has the advantage (which will be shown via my game manipulation video), you cannot overcome the house when they cheat. So how can a regular player beat the house? They can't!  Stay tuned later today and I will have a video linked here with my analysis of what's going on.

Does marketing not work for http://exploitspecialist.com/
And all you could do is blame other websites to promote your own business? That is a cheap strategy ...

We already know how casinos are cheating: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

We do not need your "beast" marketing skills to promote your own business.

LOL, if you think the community knows everything there is, I won't bother then. But if that was the case, why would people be playing on these casinos in the first place? Just trying to show another side to it. But clearly you know more than I, so you take the lead and show them what I was gonna show.

[bitcoinproplayer]

This thread will serve as repository for showing how casinos are cheating you. I will be putting my skills to use to investigate casinos that are suspected of cheating. Many people here don't know me, but I consider myself an exploit specialist: http://exploitspecialist.com  I don't even consider myself a tech guy, just someone who is a beast when it comes to testing and coming up with unique ideas and methods.

OUR FIRST CONTESTANT: DREAMLAND CASINO

I already knew about their cheating before today via my previous testing on their site. I noticed they just launched some BTC giveaway to lure players in. Well, it's time to give you an example of who they really are. Later today I'll be making a video going through a particular type of game manipulation on their site (called the "Skip") and showing how they cheat on the backend.  Even when the player has the advantage (which will be shown via my game manipulation video), you cannot overcome the house when they cheat. So how can a regular player beat the house? They can't!  Stay tuned later today and I will have a video linked here with my analysis of what's going on.

Does marketing not work for http://exploitspecialist.com/
And all you could do is blame other websites to promote your own business? That is a cheap strategy ...

We already know how casinos are cheating: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

We do not need your "beast" marketing skills to promote your own business.

LOL, if you think the community knows everything there is, I won't bother then. But if that was the case, why would people be playing on these casinos in the first place? Just trying to show another side to it. But clearly you know more than I, so you take the lead and show them what I was gonna show.

I dont know why others are playing on these casinos, but I will tell you why I play casino games.

I dont play casino games to get rich. The biggest amount that I won was 8000$ with an 18$ bet, in a casino that was not very popular and that now closed and had no online reviews, a few years ago. I was one of the first players at that casino.
I play casino games for fun. When I discover a new casino that looks professional and it is functional and has a support team behind AND NEW GAMES, I am on it. I spend some money on playing new games, because if there is no risk, there is no fun. Haha.
When you add the thrill of the win to all this, it gives an unique feeling. But after a while, I get bored of the games, because not all of them are nice, so I look for new games.

Dreamland has nice games, so I don't know if they are cheating or not, but they satisfy my needs, because I also won some money, which I invested back and lost them all. In my opinion, they do not cheat, because they allowed me to withdraw my profit, even if I was fool enough to deposit back and lose all.

For me that is the casino gaming. If I am lucky to also make money, then I save some for my personal needs, and the remaining I spend at other casinos, to get more fun.

Oh and btw, unless a server is monitored 24/7 by a licensing authority, it can always cheat by manipulating its hardware RNG or by reshuffling the game odds "infinite times" or by manipulating the outcome
It would mean to waste weeks of my life and pull a lot of strings to prove to you how AND IF popular casinos (that I dont want to name) are able to cheat. And what would I gain from that? Nothing.
I don't say that someone is cheating, or that everybody is cheating, or that nobody is cheating. All I say is that it is almost impossible to say who is cheating and who is not.

The biggest problem that I experienced was with a casino this year, when I made a deposit, and after I made a profit of 1 BTC, nobody ever replied for my withdrawal. The casino closed itself, after being open maximum 1 month.

So with dreamland, I like their games, I am happy that I won, I am happy managed to withdraw my money, even if I ended in depositing back and losing all of them. That's life. A series of random events, some are positive and some are negative.

[steven.G999]

yaps right, my suspicions after I play a game of heads and tails.
this is really weird, I was playing with 2 coin. a few examples:
I select the head and tails and try as much as 3x, which came out head to head 3, and then I change the head head 3x, and 3x outgoing head tails. and until the balance runs out of my head as much as 5x and select outgoing tails all

[jeffthebaker]

I went to sign up for dreamcasino for the promotion, registration included address, phone number, and more. Definitely not worth the 3.50$ worth of bitcoin.

[bitcoinproplayer]

To give you boys some on-topic material, let's focus our attention on a casino that really pissed me off tonight.
A cheat in the face: https://tetraplay.com/blackjack-surrender-3d-game/

I saw my cards being dealt and they arrived in my hand as being K+ACE. Then 0.5 seconds after, the ACE turned into a KING.
Now that is what I call being cheated in the face.

Also, the next hand, the dealer had a BLACKJACK using a 9(nine): http://i57.tinypic.com/1hqm52.jpg
PS: look at my cards ... I may be tired, but even so, 3+5+Q+10 is not equal to 18.

[The Players Edge]

To give you boys some on-topic material, let's focus our attention on a casino that really pissed me off tonight.
A cheat in the face: https://tetraplay.com/blackjack-surrender-3d-game/

I saw my cards being dealt and they arrived in my hand as being K+ACE. Then 0.5 seconds after, the ACE turned into a KING.
Now that is what I call being cheated in the face.

Also, the next hand, the dealer had a BLACKJACK using a 9(nine): http://i57.tinypic.com/1hqm52.jpg
PS: look at my cards ... I may be tired, but even so, 3+5+Q+10 is not equal to 18.

I see the same thing with every hand I play, however this just seems like a display issue on the interface. Looks like their play version isn't coded properly.

[dooglus]

If you limit your play to provably fair casinos then you will know, and be able to prove, when they are cheating you.

Publish your proof to their thread here - job done!

You don't need to be a "beast" (whatever that means) to do this, either.

[Tetraplay Casino]

To give you boys some on-topic material, let's focus our attention on a casino that really pissed me off tonight.
A cheat in the face: https://tetraplay.com/blackjack-surrender-3d-game/

I saw my cards being dealt and they arrived in my hand as being K+ACE. Then 0.5 seconds after, the ACE turned into a KING.
Now that is what I call being cheated in the face.

Also, the next hand, the dealer had a BLACKJACK using a 9(nine): http://i57.tinypic.com/1hqm52.jpg
PS: look at my cards ... I may be tired, but even so, 3+5+Q+10 is not equal to 18.

I see the same thing with every hand I play, however this just seems like a display issue on the interface. Looks like their play version isn't coded properly.

Thank you for trying the game.
We have been testing again the newly introduced Balck Jack Surrender and the display issue seems due to browser compatibility.
The Game Hash is working good and the results were correct.
We are removing the following Blackjack Surrender game for the time being, thank you for pointing out this technical issue and we will keep you posted when it will be fix.
If some participant want to help us try this game and fix this bug, please contact us and we will give you private access this the game  

The following 2 Hash Table Games are still available
Baccarat 3D https://tetraplay.com/baccarat-3d-game/?funMode=true
Blackjack 3D https://tetraplay.com/blackjack-3d-game/?funMode=true
Any test and feedback is welcome

[bitcoinproplayer]

If you limit your play to provably fair casinos then you will know, and be able to prove, when they are cheating you.

Publish your proof to their thread here - job done!

You don't need to be a "beast" (whatever that means) to do this, either.

Plenty of methods used by casinos to cheat, can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

[dooglus]

Plenty of methods used by casinos to cheat, can be found here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1frm4x/provably_fair_by_bitzino_not_provable_with/

Not really.

People keep dragging that post out, but none of the criticisms of provable fairness apply to many of today's games.

See Larry's response for how the criticisms don't really even apply to Bitzino, and modern provably fair systems are even safer than that.

Of course, the player needs to put in a little effort to verify that the casino is playing fair. You can't expect a corrupt casino to alert you to the fact that they're corrupt.

[The Players Edge]

Getting the video made now. Will be posted within an hour or two.

[Omikifuse]

Put all casinos without provably fair systems on the table.

You can never proof they are cheating because probability is mad science, but why would not if no one could verify?

[Seketsuna]

I went to sign up for dreamcasino for the promotion, registration included address, phone number, and more. Definitely not worth the 3.50$ worth of bitcoin.

oh c'mon just type wrong infos and its done.

[BayAreaCoins]

Getting the video made now. Will be posted within an hour or two.

Look forward to it

[StinkyS4L]

I don't know if they are cheating or not, but I made a post about their casino and terms, etc.. here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=834115.msg9322073#msg9322073

Lots of stuff in there that no BTC user should have to put up with.