[SCAM] LYCAN scammed me

[FishNChips]

On 22-OCT-2014 ~ 4:30PM EST user LYCAN and myself agree'd I would send paypal for BTC. I immediately sent PayPal and never received my BTC. After I sent the payment, he stopped returning PMs and logged off the forum site.

After 12 hours and not receiving my BTC or PMs from the user, I opened a PayPal claim.

A few hours later he PMs me

Mate i am sending u btc now..

But tell me why u have started a dispute on transcation.....i have seen now that i receive payment and now seen that u have started a dispute too

Tell me if u can close it and i will send u btc

If its walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. After the way he showed me how he does business I lost any trust with him, and  I told him I will close the claim after I receive BTC.




As of today, still no BTC so the claim will remain open. Thanks

[drmundo]

can you link to your original thread.

[leannemckim46]

use escrow next time

[FishNChips]

can you link to your original thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=831084

[redsn0w]

The next time use an escrow , and please read the sticky threads :

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594959.0

Money sent through PayPal and any other money transfer service that accepts credit cards can be easily reversed by the sender, even after several weeks.Therefore, you should only accept PayPal in trades with people you trust very highly.

This is why newbies are not likely to sell their PayPal USD for bitcoins successfully.

Some other services that are not totally safe:
- Bank transfers (ACH, etc.) except wire transfers
- Most gift cards.
- Moneypak
- AlertPay
- Paysafecards
- Dwolla
- Western Union (they reportedly will sue the recipient to recover money in some cases)

[AcoinL.L.C]

I loaned this user once, he paid back late (not on original terms, I accepted alt-coins instead). I blocked him on skype after he kept asking me for another loan that was ~2x as big every day. Sorry to hear you got scammed 

[xetsr]

The next time use an escrow , and please read the sticky threads :

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14632.0
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=594959.0

Money sent through PayPal and any other money transfer service that accepts credit cards can be easily reversed by the sender, even after several weeks.Therefore, you should only accept PayPal in trades with people you trust very highly.

This is why newbies are not likely to sell their PayPal USD for bitcoins successfully.

Some other services that are not totally safe:
- Bank transfers (ACH, etc.) except wire transfers
- Most gift cards.
- Moneypak
- AlertPay
- Paysafecards
- Dwolla
- Western Union (they reportedly will sue the recipient to recover money in some cases)

He didn't accept paypal.

Anyways, you rarely see paypal scams that involve chargebacks here these days. For the past year the scam has been to accept paypal and disappear. So you need to either avoid new accounts completely that are selling BTC for paypal or use escrow. It's true escrow doesn't protect chargebacks but neither does sending first.

[redsn0w]

He didn't accept paypal.

Anyways, you rarely see paypal scams that involve chargebacks here these days. For the past year the scam has been to accept paypal and disappear. So you need to either avoid new accounts completely that are selling BTC for paypal or use escrow. It's true escrow doesn't protect chargebacks but neither does sending first.

Yes, I have seen. I meant :

He sent paypal and he has never received the btc , but trade with paypal (send or receive) is not raccomended for both the parts.

[FishNChips]

  Paypal claim was reviewed, and funds recovered.

Details of Disputed Transaction
-----------------------------------


Recipient's Name: Mikayla Mikayla
Recipient's Email: kissam290@gmail.com
Recipient's Transaction ID: 5EF52353HL3349340

Transaction Date: Oct 22, 2014
Transaction Amount: -$14.25 USD
Your Transaction ID: 5J446441H5964823D
Case Number: PP-003-485-355-465

Sender's Transaction ID: 5J446441H5964823D

[redsn0w]

Paypal claim was reviewed, and funds recovered.

Details of Disputed Transaction
-----------------------------------


Recipient's Name: Mikayla Mikayla
Recipient's Email: kissam290@gmail.com
Recipient's Transaction ID: 5EF52353HL3349340

Transaction Date: Oct 22, 2014
Transaction Amount: -$14.25 USD
Your Transaction ID: 5J446441H5964823D
Case Number: PP-003-485-355-465

Sender's Transaction ID: 5J446441H5964823D

Great , I'm happy for you. The next time buy only from a trusted member and (before)check his activity in the community.

[LYCAN]

So all good that u got your money back

But this guy is fucker , he scammed 86$ Paypal to user - xstudly

Check out this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=841096.0

Now tell me who's the scammer...i know that this guy is a scammer and will do chargeback and now today he scammed a user

Please remove my neg. trust who have given me without knowing

[redsn0w]

So all good that u got your money back

But this guy is fucker , he scammed 86$ Paypal to user - xstudly

Check out this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=841096.0

Now tell me who's the scammer...i know that this guy is a scammer and will do chargeback and now today he scammed a user

Please remove my neg. trust who have given me without knowing

Why don't you /first/ send the btc to him (FishNChips)  ? I think you both are a scammers (But this is only my personal opinion ).

[LYCAN]

I did not sent btc to him first because i know he will do chargeback

i know this from -

When i asked him before that is your paypal account verified,, he said yes.

But when i got payment its from some chips username and that ac was not verifed...non-us unverified acc

So that worry me and i never sent him the coins

And now he scammed the user xstudly and gone away....please remove my neg. trust

[redsn0w]

I did not sent btc to him first because i know he will do chargeback

i know this from -

When i asked him before that is your paypal account verified,, he said yes.

But when i got payment its from some chips username and that ac was not verifed...non-us unverified acc

So that worry me and i never sent him the coins

And now he scammed the user xstudly and gone away....please remove my neg. trust

Hey,

Yes I've understand. The next time don't use paypal and you will not have this type of problem or preoccupation.

For the  -ve trust , I think you must contact privately the users.

[LYCAN]

I did not sent btc to him first because i know he will do chargeback

i know this from -

When i asked him before that is your paypal account verified,, he said yes.

But when i got payment its from some chips username and that ac was not verifed...non-us unverified acc

So that worry me and i never sent him the coins

And now he scammed the user xstudly and gone away....please remove my neg. trust

Hey,

Yes I've understand. The next time don't use paypal and you will not have this type of problem or preoccupation.

For the  -ve trust , I think you must contact privately the users.

Thanks for understanding and now i hope they will remove my negative feedback they have given me

[redsn0w]

I did not sent btc to him first because i know he will do chargeback

i know this from -

When i asked him before that is your paypal account verified,, he said yes.

But when i got payment its from some chips username and that ac was not verifed...non-us unverified acc

So that worry me and i never sent him the coins

And now he scammed the user xstudly and gone away....please remove my neg. trust

Hey,

Yes I've understand. The next time don't use paypal and you will not have this type of problem or preoccupation.

For the  -ve trust , I think you must contact privately the users.

Thanks for understanding and now i hope they will remove my negative feedback they have given me

Can you prove the ownership of that account ? Maybe it was sold  or it was  hacked.  First confirm your trustworthy and then I think they will delete the -ve feedback.

[LYCAN]

I did not sent btc to him first because i know he will do chargeback

i know this from -

When i asked him before that is your paypal account verified,, he said yes.

But when i got payment its from some chips username and that ac was not verifed...non-us unverified acc

So that worry me and i never sent him the coins

And now he scammed the user xstudly and gone away....please remove my neg. trust

Hey,

Yes I've understand. The next time don't use paypal and you will not have this type of problem or preoccupation.

For the  -ve trust , I think you must contact privately the users.

Thanks for understanding and now i hope they will remove my negative feedback they have given me

Can you prove the ownership of that account ? Maybe it was sold  or it was  hacked.  First confirm your trustworthy and then I think they will delete the -ve feedback.

How can i do that...Please tell me and i will confirm my ownership

[Bitcoin-Police]

On 22-OCT-2014 ~ 4:30PM EST user LYCAN and myself agree'd I would send paypal for BTC. I immediately sent PayPal and never received my BTC. After I sent the payment, he stopped returning PMs and logged off the forum site.

After 12 hours and not receiving my BTC or PMs from the user, I opened a PayPal claim.

A few hours later he PMs me

Mate i am sending u btc now..

But tell me why u have started a dispute on transcation.....i have seen now that i receive payment and now seen that u have started a dispute too

Tell me if u can close it and i will send u btc

If its walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. After the way he showed me how he does business I lost any trust with him, and  I told him I will close the claim after I receive BTC.




As of today, still no BTC so the claim will remain open. Thanks

What an idiot. You should have read the SCAM-POTENTIAL = 100% before dealing with him. Next time listen to Bitcoin-Police.

[Ume]

do not trust him he just stolen my account i trusted him by going first:)

[kanggoroo]

you mean lycan is your old acc and now you said that acc was hacked ?
omg another drama start again now ?