Paypal scam - User olucun cheated me

[astronauto]

I conceive the suspicion that the user Olucun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=371056) cheated me of 100 euros from my PayPal funds.

Olucun wanted to exchange my paypal funds into BTC, we PMed at bitcointalk before. After I paid him, he told me via Skype (Username: didivf7) that my money is hold back for 24h to check if my funds are legal. That was the last time I heard from him, since three days I'm trying to send him messages via Skype, although he's obviously online, he doesn't respond anymore. I also noted that he changed his name at skype in the meantime. Very suspicious. He also doesn't respond to my PMs.

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[elitenoob]

So i assume you sent funds as a gift so you can't charge back? Anyway it's not a good idea at all to use PP for digital currencies...sorry to hear that.

[KWH]

So i assume you sent funds as a gift so you can't charge back? Anyway it's not a good idea at all to use PP for digital currencies...sorry to hear that.

He could if he went the "hacked account" route. If it was funded via CC, the same could happen.

[MultipliedCombo]

It's a really bad idea to use Paypal with digital currency trading. Sorry for your loss.

If you didn't send it as a gift, I guess you could do a charge back... Not too sure.

[kusumadewi]

I conceive the suspicion that the user Olucun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=371056) cheated me of 100 euros from my PayPal funds.

Olucun wanted to exchange my paypal funds into BTC, we PMed at bitcointalk before. After I paid him, he told me via Skype (Username: didivf7) that my money is hold back for 24h to check if my funds are legal. That was the last time I heard from him, since three days I'm trying to send him messages via Skype, although he's obviously online, he doesn't respond anymore. I also noted that he changed his name at skype in the meantime. Very suspicious. He also doesn't respond to my PMs.

Report this to paypal support, when your case accepted they will limit his PP account.

[aurel57]

I conceive the suspicion that the user Olucun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=371056) cheated me of 100 euros from my PayPal funds.

Olucun wanted to exchange my paypal funds into BTC, we PMed at bitcointalk before. After I paid him, he told me via Skype (Username: didivf7) that my money is hold back for 24h to check if my funds are legal. That was the last time I heard from him, since three days I'm trying to send him messages via Skype, although he's obviously online, he doesn't respond anymore. I also noted that he changed his name at skype in the meantime. Very suspicious. He also doesn't respond to my PMs.

If this was a normal PayPal transaction then file a dispute with them about not receiving the goods. If you funded the transaction by using a credit card ( never have your bank account linked to PayPal) then file also with the CC company which you may want to wait till you get your statement. The minute you do this the PayPal dispute will be put on hold and they will address the charge back.

The first thing with PayPal of filing the dispute the "seller" will need to send a response back to PayPal. You can send PayPal screen shots of your PM's. If the seller does not respond you will get your funds back.

PayPal is very good for the buyer and very risky for the seller anymore. When I sell something on EBay anymore I am very careful on the buyer to make sure they have a lots of good feedback for cancel the sell.

Good luck

[duckydonald]

dont matter if they limit the account, is probably a shill paypal account or stealth, he will make more

[astronauto]

I conceive the suspicion that the user Olucun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=371056) cheated me of 100 euros from my PayPal funds.

Olucun wanted to exchange my paypal funds into BTC, we PMed at bitcointalk before. After I paid him, he told me via Skype (Username: didivf7) that my money is hold back for 24h to check if my funds are legal. That was the last time I heard from him, since three days I'm trying to send him messages via Skype, although he's obviously online, he doesn't respond anymore. I also noted that he changed his name at skype in the meantime. Very suspicious. He also doesn't respond to my PMs.

If this was a normal PayPal transaction then file a dispute with them about not receiving the goods. If you funded the transaction by using a credit card ( never have your bank account linked to PayPal) then file also with the CC company which you may want to wait till you get your statement. The minute you do this the PayPal dispute will be put on hold and they will address the charge back.

The first thing with PayPal of filing the dispute the "seller" will need to send a response back to PayPal. You can send PayPal screen shots of your PM's. If the seller does not respond you will get your funds back.

PayPal is very good for the buyer and very risky for the seller anymore. When I sell something on EBay anymore I am very careful on the buyer to make sure they have a lots of good feedback for cancel the sell.

Good luck

It was a normal transaction, but I thought that Paypal refuses a refund if it was a virtual good, am I wrong? I filed a dispute, it's worth a try for sure. Let's see. Olucun is still posting on this board in the meantime... 

[kusumadewi]

@OP ; I thought you're right, and I believe Olucun is watching this thread.

[aurel57]

I conceive the suspicion that the user Olucun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=371056) cheated me of 100 euros from my PayPal funds.

Olucun wanted to exchange my paypal funds into BTC, we PMed at bitcointalk before. After I paid him, he told me via Skype (Username: didivf7) that my money is hold back for 24h to check if my funds are legal. That was the last time I heard from him, since three days I'm trying to send him messages via Skype, although he's obviously online, he doesn't respond anymore. I also noted that he changed his name at skype in the meantime. Very suspicious. He also doesn't respond to my PMs.

If this was a normal PayPal transaction then file a dispute with them about not receiving the goods. If you funded the transaction by using a credit card ( never have your bank account linked to PayPal) then file also with the CC company which you may want to wait till you get your statement. The minute you do this the PayPal dispute will be put on hold and they will address the charge back.

The first thing with PayPal of filing the dispute the "seller" will need to send a response back to PayPal. You can send PayPal screen shots of your PM's. If the seller does not respond you will get your funds back.

PayPal is very good for the buyer and very risky for the seller anymore. When I sell something on EBay anymore I am very careful on the buyer to make sure they have a lots of good feedback for cancel the sell.

Good luck

It was a normal transaction, but I thought that Paypal refuses a refund if it was a virtual good, am I wrong? I filed a dispute, it's worth a try for sure. Let's see. Olucun is still posting on this board in the meantime... 

How do you fund your PayPal account? If you do fund your account with a credit card your still fine and can file a charge back against him. I will be interested in seeing if he replies back yo PayPal about this dispute. Send PayPal screen shots of the PM's showing that he was to send you something. Then how he wanted to wait and then how you wrote asking him when he would send you the item you paid for but got no response. If he does not prove that he sent it then you should be in good shape.

[xetsr]

Scammers delay so they have enough time to cash out their balance, which will make it tougher to win a paypal dispute unless you used a credit card and can chargeback through them.

Just about everyone who is willing to sell to a new user for paypal is a scammer. Do NOT deal with them.

[hamza171]

Def try to take it to resolution, usually paypal is solid about this.

[Xian01]

Sorry that you learned this lesson the hard way The generally accepted practice around here is to NEVER use Paypal when buying or selling Bitcoins.

NEVER. EVER.

You're going to have a bad time.

[letyouearn]

Its feels really sad to hear this news. You must be careful about doing any transactions for buying and selling any items.

Bcoz of carelessness, you have lost your 100Euros.

Better , you must be careful next time.