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November 05, 2014, 05:15:20 PM
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Using the phrase "religious people..." is a crude and biased generalization at best. I'm a religious person, and I hold no desire at all to see laws passed that would require people to be executed for their sexual preference. I could care less if someone is gay. It's not my place to judge.

I agree with you on the term being crude and based on biased generalizations. But you can't deny that a large part of the republican party's support comes from religious folks who DO want to see laws passed to restrict behaviors they don't agree with. To pretend otherwise isn't being honest. While the term may be objectionable, I think this is the sentiment using that term was meant to evoke; it was just done in the shortest hand possible.

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November 05, 2014, 05:24:27 PM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?
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November 05, 2014, 05:40:45 PM
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Using the phrase "religious people..." is a crude and biased generalization at best. I'm a religious person, and I hold no desire at all to see laws passed that would require people to be executed for their sexual preference. I could care less if someone is gay. It's not my place to judge.

I agree with you on the term being crude and based on biased generalizations. But you can't deny that a large part of the republican party's support comes from religious folks who DO want to see laws passed to restrict behaviors they don't agree with. To pretend otherwise isn't being honest. While the term may be objectionable, I think this is the sentiment using that term was meant to evoke; it was just done in the shortest hand possible.

I don't know about that. I would have to see some facts supporting that claim. Otherwise it's just speculation. I won't disagree that a large part of Republicans are religious, but I just don't believe that it is safe to generalize that all religious people want laws passed to restrict things they don't support. And even if that were true, how is it any different than the Atheist groups who are trying to get laws passed to restrict things they don't like, such as having "In God We Trust" removed from everything and denying children the right/priviledge to say prayers in school. There are hypocracies on all sides.

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November 05, 2014, 07:59:48 PM
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Using the phrase "religious people..." is a crude and biased generalization at best. I'm a religious person, and I hold no desire at all to see laws passed that would require people to be executed for their sexual preference. I could care less if someone is gay. It's not my place to judge.

I agree with you on the term being crude and based on biased generalizations. But you can't deny that a large part of the republican party's support comes from religious folks who DO want to see laws passed to restrict behaviors they don't agree with. To pretend otherwise isn't being honest. While the term may be objectionable, I think this is the sentiment using that term was meant to evoke; it was just done in the shortest hand possible.

I don't know about that. I would have to see some facts supporting that claim. Otherwise it's just speculation. I won't disagree that a large part of Republicans are religious, but I just don't believe that it is safe to generalize that all religious people want laws passed to restrict things they don't support. And even if that were true, how is it any different than the Atheist groups who are trying to get laws passed to restrict things they don't like, such as having "In God We Trust" removed from everything and denying children the right/priviledge to say prayers in school. There are hypocracies on all sides.

I didn't say all religious people want to pass laws to restrict things they don't support. Though I did say that a large part of the republican base is made up of people like this. If you need evidence, see all the anti-gay marriage laws written in the southern "republican" states that the courts are finally overturning as unconstitutional. It's easiest to see it with gay marriage, so I won't bother with less easily-identifiable examples.

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November 05, 2014, 09:33:05 PM
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I didn't say all religious people want to pass laws to restrict things they don't support. Though I did say that a large part of the republican base is made up of people like this. If you need evidence, see all the anti-gay marriage laws written in the southern "republican" states that the courts are finally overturning as unconstitutional. It's easiest to see it with gay marriage, so I won't bother with less easily-identifiable examples.

Fair enough.

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November 06, 2014, 12:11:23 PM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed

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November 07, 2014, 03:28:08 PM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
So? This still doesn't justify executions... this is a very poor argument.
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November 07, 2014, 03:39:48 PM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
So? This still doesn't justify executions... this is a very poor argument.

What do you suggest should be the penalty for rapists and murderers? A $200 fine?

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November 08, 2014, 08:19:57 PM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
So? This still doesn't justify executions... this is a very poor argument.

What do you suggest should be the penalty for rapists and murderers? A $200 fine?
How about prison?
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November 09, 2014, 08:36:12 PM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
So? This still doesn't justify executions... this is a very poor argument.

What do you suggest should be the penalty for rapists and murderers? A $200 fine?
How about prison?

America already has a terrible prison problem!

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November 11, 2014, 05:08:06 AM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.
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November 11, 2014, 06:02:27 AM
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Mixed feelings, it sounds like the child was suffering
Does that mean that someone else even their mother has the right to let them die
One should die of natural causes this is in a sense a murder but the intentions were pure, so on the line.
That said in this case it is ok with me I just hope it's not a slippery slope on legal precedents.

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November 11, 2014, 12:10:01 PM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.

Who's gonna pay for that? Some of those bastards live up to their high nineties

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November 12, 2014, 02:48:43 AM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.

Who's gonna pay for that? Some of those bastards live up to their high nineties
If prisons weren't 70% filled with nonviolent drug offenders, funding wouldn't be an issue.
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November 12, 2014, 06:23:47 AM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.

Who's gonna pay for that? Some of those bastards live up to their high nineties
If prisons weren't 70% filled with nonviolent drug offenders, funding wouldn't be an issue.

This is powerful. I think the figure is close to 58% but it could well be 70% and exceed to the mid nineties before the US wakes up and realizes, only then, it will be too late.

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It's pretty funny how the police won't touch armed violent crime in black neighborhoods but would absolutely perform blatant violations of the Fourth Amendment on minorities by stating the "probable cause" as "smelling marijuana". I mean, if they really cared about their safety, they could start with cleaning up DC.

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November 12, 2014, 06:39:31 AM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.

Who's gonna pay for that? Some of those bastards live up to their high nineties
If prisons weren't 70% filled with nonviolent drug offenders, funding wouldn't be an issue.
Most people in prison are violent offenders and/or have been convicted of crimes in which the offender would likely commit a violent crime.

You should also note that it is near impossible to get life insurance on someone who is in prison because of the huge amount of risk the person will be killed in prison
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November 12, 2014, 09:59:04 AM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.

Who's gonna pay for that? Some of those bastards live up to their high nineties
If prisons weren't 70% filled with nonviolent drug offenders, funding wouldn't be an issue.
Most people in prison are violent offenders and/or have been convicted of crimes in which the offender would likely commit a violent crime.

Wrong.

48% of prisoners are non violent drug "offenders"
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1118

That leaves 52%

I'm sure there are more than 3% of "offenders" locked up for downloading unauthorized digital goods (software piracy)

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November 13, 2014, 06:07:26 AM
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Ending another life when it clearly did not endanger the woman's own, not to mention her own child.

You call this 'progress'?

It's more like dereliction of responsibility and wanting to exercise 'rights' without reprocussions. You have no more right to end your child's life then I have to end yours.

Your 'feelings' are irrelevant. I can easily justify based on my male 'feelings' how I am entitled to rape you as my fuck toy.


Deluded bitches and their lack of common sense sound like a bigger problem. Man or woman, no one respects those who cannot pull their own weight. Have you tried being more of a woman?

I have known plenty of powerful and strong women, the kind that commands the same respect as any grandfather or father when families are together in the household. None of them were are frivolous or mouthy like a little girl - in other words, like you.
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November 13, 2014, 07:25:40 AM
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I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.

Who's gonna pay for that? Some of those bastards live up to their high nineties
If prisons weren't 70% filled with nonviolent drug offenders, funding wouldn't be an issue.
Most people in prison are violent offenders and/or have been convicted of crimes in which the offender would likely commit a violent crime.

Wrong.

48% of prisoners are non violent drug "offenders"
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1118

That leaves 52%

I'm sure there are more than 3% of "offenders" locked up for downloading unauthorized digital goods (software piracy)
Piracy is generally a a civil offense, not a criminal one so there are likely zero people in jail for piracy. Also those statistics fail to account for people who have committed violent crimes in the past or whose crimes are often associated with violence (but were not specifically convicted of doing something violent)
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November 14, 2014, 09:02:24 AM
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I can easily justify based on my male 'feelings' how I am entitled to rape you as my fuck toy.

Then you need to seek psychotherapy

I agree with Cube here. I am anti-death penalty,

Do you believe pedophiles can be reformed?
What the hell does this have to do with anything? You know they don't execute people for pedophilia right?

But there are some criminals that can never be reformed
Life in prison would be the solution here if you are against the death penalty.

Who's gonna pay for that? Some of those bastards live up to their high nineties
If prisons weren't 70% filled with nonviolent drug offenders, funding wouldn't be an issue.
Most people in prison are violent offenders and/or have been convicted of crimes in which the offender would likely commit a violent crime.

Wrong.

48% of prisoners are non violent drug "offenders"
http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=1118

That leaves 52%

I'm sure there are more than 3% of "offenders" locked up for downloading unauthorized digital goods (software piracy)
Piracy is generally a a civil offense, not a criminal one so there are likely zero people in jail for piracy. Also those statistics fail to account for people who have committed violent crimes in the past or whose crimes are often associated with violence (but were not specifically convicted of doing something violent)

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