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Author Topic: [Payout Updates] Bitcoinica site is taken offline for security investigation  (Read 145592 times)
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July 10, 2012, 07:40:48 AM
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Do I understand this correctly that the GOX codes are being sent UNENCRYPTED through plain text e-mails?

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Yes, plain text e-mails.
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July 10, 2012, 07:53:01 AM
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I lost a huge load of coins in Bitcoinica, I wouldnt trust them or most bitcoin services (even MtGox) ....

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July 10, 2012, 07:59:20 AM
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?
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July 10, 2012, 08:19:30 AM
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

At least you got an e-mail. No coins or e-mail here.

Sorry El Cabron, you are banned from posting or sending personal messages on this forum.
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July 10, 2012, 09:32:42 AM
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This is seriously stalling bitcoin progress for many months, if not years. Even though I received half of my coins back (50.5/101) I'm not trusting, let alone investing any of my btc in btc related businesses again.

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July 10, 2012, 11:05:44 AM
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hmmm...
no mails or coins for me too this far...

My only pleasure is that the guys from bitcoinica/intersango even too waste huge ammounts of time to sort out some pennys from suspiciously malicious claims instead of take the bitter pill to pay what they can't proove to be malicious an restart their business on a better basis...

considering the price rally that had happend within just this period of "security investigation" they were in a better position now when they had payed whatever was claimed and start to rebuild their business on a better basis. Everybody would have been satisfied and they had gained very much trust for this painfully but straight and reliable way of managing a crisis without torturing their clients with an endless process of poor information and waiting for what ever will come.

From this point of view they burn not only their reputation... huge ammounts of money wasn't made too for these heroes of "let's do it painfully slow and reasonable"...

Maybe it's time to fix the problem with an other philosophy? I think the train is goin to run faster now maybe they won't catch it anymore by going on this way...




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July 10, 2012, 01:28:26 PM
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

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July 10, 2012, 01:51:39 PM
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

Code:
From: ryan bitcoinica <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>
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July 10, 2012, 02:01:56 PM
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Do I understand this correctly that the GOX codes are being sent UNENCRYPTED through plain text e-mails?

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Yes, plain text e-mails.

It's things like this that lead me to condemn these people. They're not that dumb, they just don't give a F***.

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July 10, 2012, 02:08:50 PM
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Glad to hear people are getting some coins back.  I'm still waiting on my first 50%.
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July 10, 2012, 02:18:58 PM
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Do I understand this correctly that the GOX codes are being sent UNENCRYPTED through plain text e-mails?

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Yes, plain text e-mails.

It's things like this that lead me to condemn these people. They're not that dumb, they just don't give a F***.



Unbelievable. First I have to send all my private data unencrypted to verify@bitcoinica.com, then to bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com (gmail.com - seriously!? I could have created bitconica.reimburse@gmail.com, reimburse.bitcoinica@gmail.com etc. to catch all the typo emails from customers if I wanted to). And now they are sending GOX code over plain email?? After being warned by customers not to do this many times? Why are you they not showing the claim codes on the https personal claim page?

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July 10, 2012, 02:27:37 PM
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

That is funny because I received the following email from 'ryan bitcoinica'

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On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 5:15 PM, ryan bitcoinica
<bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,Your account is marked accurate.

Still have not received a dime back btw. 0. nada. zilch.
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July 10, 2012, 02:29:11 PM
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Do I understand this correctly that the GOX codes are being sent UNENCRYPTED through plain text e-mails?

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Yes, plain text e-mails.

It's things like this that lead me to condemn these people. They're not that dumb, they just don't give a F***.



maybe they just don't want to learn from mistakes... remember: Security is not their professional topic... they prooved more than once!

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July 10, 2012, 02:29:20 PM
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

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From: ryan bitcoinica <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>

This is ridiculous! I didn't register that email.

The email was not sent by me.

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July 10, 2012, 02:33:12 PM
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Please people do not worry, soon Patrick Donald and Genjix will receive a friendly government visit. My lawyer is telling me that Zhoutong is under age and that his patents or legal guardian can face prison and penalties, oh well. Sorry but you left me no other choice.

Maria Feliz.
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July 10, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
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still haven t received anything..i received this email from ryan bitcoinica:
Hi,

Your claim will take longer to process as we need to build a case for
your account.

no explanation or something..?

Really? I didn't reply to any email regarding the claims. Please check the sender again.

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From: ryan bitcoinica <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>

This is ridiculous! I didn't register that email.

The email was not sent by me.

i've got an answer from the exact same address.


Return-path: <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>
Envelope-to: XXXXXX@k1024.de
Delivery-date: Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:35:33 +0200
Received: from [209.85.220.179] (helo=mail-vc0-f179.google.com)
   by www158.your-server.de with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128)
   (Exim 4.74)
   (envelope-from <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>)
   id 1SmWIF-0008S6-DL
   for XXXXX@k1024.de; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 22:35:33 +0200
Received: by vcbgb23 with SMTP id gb23so5569549vcb.24
        for <XXXX@k1024.de>; Wed, 04 Jul 2012 13:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
        d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
        h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to
         :content-type;
        bh=bhUQed++ZSnu+gddMf04ih379ox1pyU1R3ju6CpThi4=;
        b=c+vlD6PBHYkE/QC61ywltLFSnmpcPse4qDdm1tGnijALp4Gr+qq0alb7qPUXVVppOF
         ayISggKm7Hs0bauQSb9BJN1t5TAvSbJPl5LRXwz6zQVEhXfDrtIginl9+j0IfN2Wzw0K
         tSS+5dxJbCh8snKuuvQE9PRx4KMpptLC/AvRwWsU/ctPjFYpGZtQpK9JfUB9bjPmT57t
         ZwYf1X8SRxtHo8OvuEmZYd84Q+LuXk1k5iUwku+r0ukfJaw6u2ww2nDtk68R/SwLNssG
         9W8kMbVRWvq9qB0FDk6RcgCpxalDO+T1IaMThH+bAzZyJSFSBEakXgmKKHEL4ZAMtVYw
         ZP/w==
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.220.214.8 with SMTP id gy8mr11260392vcb.45.1341434113741; Wed,
 04 Jul 2012 13:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.220.34.5 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jul 2012 13:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <4FF08D77.5060001@k1024.de>
References: <4FF08D77.5060001@k1024.de>
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2012 22:35:13 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+f9Yd40FpYFhLM5pbEf3_d9sNa+jkxx-4pbPcgkfc_S4N3e2Q@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bitcoinica Account XXXXXXXXX
From: ryan bitcoinica <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>
To: XXXXXX <XXXXXX@k1024.de>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
X-Virus-Scanned: Clear (ClamAV 0.97.3/15109/Wed Jul  4 04:41:32 2012)
X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/)
Delivered-To: XXXXXXX@k1024.de

Your account is marked as accurate.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2012 at 7:48 PM, XXXXXX<XXXXXX@k1024.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> please tell me the state of my account.
>

are you telling us this mails are not official?
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July 10, 2012, 02:48:29 PM
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This is ridiculous! I didn't register that email.

The email was not sent by me.

My headers also reference riseup.net which I think genjix uses. So maybe he registered this email under your name? Why did you guys switch from verify@bitcoinica to bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail com anyway? Seems like a step down in security to me since any typo with a gmail account can end up in a typo scammers mailbox.

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MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.52.72.137 with SMTP id d9mr6770556vdv.122.1340637876065; Mon,
 25 Jun 2012 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.220.34.5 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jun 2012 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT)
References: <6c998ccf425c93de7c88ff06625246e1.squirrel@fruiteater.riseup.net>
   <CA+f9Yd4B2ZV_QGg=r4+HP89cvDzrcuv_i_wYdrwQ=sLVKfK8Pw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:24:36 +0200
Message-ID: <CA+f9Yd6pJrBaN5btv8WprJRWcgS1e6JbZzL7FAjYRvRxfeXQTw@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Claim status request]
From: ryan bitcoinica <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>

Anyway, keep sending MtGOX codes over plain email. Sounds like a wonderful idea to me. After all my claim is only in the 5 digits. Say what - why don't you just throw the money on the street and I come and pick it up. Sounds secure to me.

Incompetence, Negligence, Willful Ignorance, Inconsistency, It's all here folks. Oh and don't forget to tune in tomorrow for the 2 months celebration of this epic disaster.

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July 10, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
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Oh and don't forget to tune in tomorrow for the 2 months celebration of this epic disaster.

lets buy some old eggs
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July 10, 2012, 02:50:37 PM
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i got the same thing too..  this was a few weeks ago.. nothing since..

ryan bitcoinica <bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com>

Hello, Your account is in the queue and waiting to be reviewed.

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July 10, 2012, 02:52:10 PM
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I received this as well :

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ryan bitcoinica bitcoinica.reimburse@gmail.com
Jun 22

to me
Hi,

Your claim is marked as accurate."

I figured this was "legit" since it was an answer to a mail I sent to a bitcoinica adress

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