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November 16, 2014, 03:15:08 AM
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This is not the only ridiculous US law, there are so many of them a simple google search will get you hundreds of them... an example a dozen http://justsomething.co/the-22-most-ridiculous-us-laws-still-in-effect-today-2/

It is sad to see that feeding other humans in need can get you to jail ...
You need to understand that he was arrested for more then just feeding people. There are regulations as to sanitary requirements and food service licenses that must be obtained before you can serve food to the public. The reason for this is to protect the public from potential food borne illnesses that can potentially be fatal.
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November 16, 2014, 11:31:40 AM
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@Swordsoffreedom that's true, but jails are intentionally overcrowded. It's not an accident or incompetence. Criminalize completely harmless and victimless things, and not only do you get free slave labor, but you also get rid of those in the lowest rungs of society more easily.

@MelodyRowell that's not even funny.
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November 16, 2014, 02:36:13 PM
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This is not the only ridiculous US law, there are so many of them a simple google search will get you hundreds of them... an example a dozen http://justsomething.co/the-22-most-ridiculous-us-laws-still-in-effect-today-2/

It is sad to see that feeding other humans in need can get you to jail ...
You need to understand that he was arrested for more then just feeding people. There are regulations as to sanitary requirements and food service licenses that must be obtained before you can serve food to the public. The reason for this is to protect the public from potential food borne illnesses that can potentially be fatal.

LOL.
A license can protect someone from a food borne illness if the license is used to clean up the rat poop, or to wrap the fish to keep it from going bad.

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November 16, 2014, 06:59:05 PM
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This is not the only ridiculous US law, there are so many of them a simple google search will get you hundreds of them... an example a dozen http://justsomething.co/the-22-most-ridiculous-us-laws-still-in-effect-today-2/

It is sad to see that feeding other humans in need can get you to jail ...
You need to understand that he was arrested for more then just feeding people. There are regulations as to sanitary requirements and food service licenses that must be obtained before you can serve food to the public. The reason for this is to protect the public from potential food borne illnesses that can potentially be fatal.

You have to be careful that when you want to protect you in fact control and decrease freedom :

The State poisoning people to protect them :

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/8/5975605/alcohol-prohibition-poison
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November 17, 2014, 02:07:45 AM
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This is not the only ridiculous US law, there are so many of them a simple google search will get you hundreds of them... an example a dozen http://justsomething.co/the-22-most-ridiculous-us-laws-still-in-effect-today-2/

It is sad to see that feeding other humans in need can get you to jail ...
You need to understand that he was arrested for more then just feeding people. There are regulations as to sanitary requirements and food service licenses that must be obtained before you can serve food to the public. The reason for this is to protect the public from potential food borne illnesses that can potentially be fatal.

That's the excuse the wrap the law around so it doesn't look like they're making charity illegal. Don't fall for it.
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November 17, 2014, 08:56:31 PM
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And now they are offering free bus tickets to any homeless person who wishes to leave the city.  But of course, it is important to understand that this is simply mere coincidence, the intention of the law isn't to get rid of homeless people it is all about food safety  Roll Eyes
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November 17, 2014, 09:42:15 PM
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Maybe they will head to the Satoshi Forest and Sean's Outpost?

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November 17, 2014, 10:45:48 PM
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And now they are offering free bus tickets to any homeless person who wishes to leave the city.  But of course, it is important to understand that this is simply mere coincidence, the intention of the law isn't to get rid of homeless people it is all about food safety  Roll Eyes

Just make sure they're "voluntary" free bus tickets.  Undecided
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November 17, 2014, 11:46:52 PM
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I think that helping others is a virtue, why should be limited, not to help others at their own expense can ease the burden on the state, so the state does not need to be hard to take care of his people who are poor, it should be improved, so that the poor will soon diminish ...  Roll Eyes
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November 18, 2014, 02:08:05 AM
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That's the excuse the wrap the law around so it doesn't look like they're making charity illegal. Don't fall for it.

Nobody is "making charity illegal."  That's a strawman you created to prop up your otherwise unsupportable argument.

Time, place, and manner restrictions don't make charity illegal any more than they do free speech.

You sound exactly like the Occutards who insisted that camping in public was protected by the 1st Amendment.

All you accomplish is turning off reasonable people and setting back your cause.

If you want to help feed the hungry, good.  Do it at a church, food bank, shelter, or soup kitchen.  Not in a public park.


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November 18, 2014, 02:15:40 AM
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I think that helping others is a virtue, why should be limited, not to help others at their own expense can ease the burden on the state, so the state does not need to be hard to take care of his people who are poor, it should be improved, so that the poor will soon diminish ...  Roll Eyes

Why should there be time, place, and manner restrictions on free speech if it is a virtue?

Shouldn't I be able to camp in the park/street/sidewalk next to your house and scream about the virtues of anarchy from 2AM until 8 in the morning?

You stupid kids make minimal statism look bad with this idiocy; no wonder the Libertarian Party is stuck in single digits as a permanent joke.

The first thing anarchists and minarchists must do is figure out how to deal with the fact that the vast majority of people do not want to live in an anarchist or minarchist community and work out a way to accommodate them.  That solution is called federalism.


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November 21, 2014, 06:11:49 PM
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That's the excuse the wrap the law around so it doesn't look like they're making charity illegal. Don't fall for it.

Nobody is "making charity illegal."  That's a strawman you created to prop up your otherwise unsupportable argument.

Time, place, and manner restrictions don't make charity illegal any more than they do free speech.

You sound exactly like the Occutards who insisted that camping in public was protected by the 1st Amendment.

All you accomplish is turning off reasonable people and setting back your cause.

If you want to help feed the hungry, good.  Do it at a church, food bank, shelter, or soup kitchen.  Not in a public park.

Is handing out sandwiches now illegal in this jurisdiction? Oh, it is? I'd say that makes a charitable act illegal. Your passionate defense of state power is noted though. You're such an obedient citizen.
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November 21, 2014, 07:16:11 PM
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That's the excuse the wrap the law around so it doesn't look like they're making charity illegal. Don't fall for it.

Nobody is "making charity illegal."  That's a strawman you created to prop up your otherwise unsupportable argument.

Time, place, and manner restrictions don't make charity illegal any more than they do free speech.

You sound exactly like the Occutards who insisted that camping in public was protected by the 1st Amendment.

All you accomplish is turning off reasonable people and setting back your cause.

If you want to help feed the hungry, good.  Do it at a church, food bank, shelter, or soup kitchen.  Not in a public park.

Is handing out sandwiches now illegal in this jurisdiction? Oh, it is? I'd say that makes a charitable act illegal. Your passionate defense of state power is noted though. You're such an obedient citizen.

Handing out sandwiches is perfectly legal (and even encouraged by the tax code's treatment of charitable contributions) when done in the proper manner, at an appropriate venue like a soup kitchen, shelter, church, or food bank.  Obviously.

Creating a messy situation in a public park by handing out sandwiches that were not made in accordance with local food safety regulations is illegal.  Duh!

I am against any Federal regulations on sandwich distribution.  I support the right of individuals to form communities that do regulate sandwich distribution if they so please.

Your antipathy to freedom of association and demands for an individual's altruism to be subsidized by the unwilling participants who must pay for the nasty externalized costs of that altruism is noted.  You're such a cool anarchist; nice trenchcoat BTW.


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