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November 07, 2014, 07:24:10 AM
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Not 20 yet, but I'll keep digging ...

Wow. I don't understand how these guys don't cover their basic tracks. If you're going to engage in illegal activity the first thing you would do is ensure nothing can be traced back to your real identity and create fresh accounts for everything. What's the source for these colossal fuckups?

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November 07, 2014, 07:26:58 AM
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- He was using his real name to rent a server to operate SR2.
- He was also using an email adress that was connected to several real name accounts  (Facebook/Twitter etc)
- He didn't use Tor at some occasions, revealing his real home ips.
- He operated SR2 when he was travelling under his real name in Hotels with unsecure connections.
- He contacted support staff from the rented server, when the server had some downtime (due to the FBI mirroring the server at that moment) with ips that were tracable.
- He worked with the old admins of SR1, which was most likely infiltrated
- He traded his wealth on a trading site, using his real name /email adress
- He was using the same email adress for his Facebook/Twitter whatsoever accounts
- Infiltrated admins of SR2 were able to see his real ips, when he logged in to SR2
- His online behaviour fit perfectly to his movements in real life.

Not 20 yet, but I'll keep digging ...


I would argue that some of these would count as more then one. Especially the ones about him connecting to SR2 directly from his home computer, and him connecting directly from hotel IP addresses without at least a VPN.

The FBI had informers among the SR2 staff even before the site was opened to the masses. Means, SR2 was operating as a honeypot from the start.

from http://www.deepdotweb.com/2014/11/06/official-silk-road-2-0-admin-charged-manhattan-federal-court/ :

Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said: “As alleged, Blake Benthall attempted to resurrect Silk Road, a secret website that law enforcement seized last year, by running Silk Road 2.0, a nearly identical criminal enterprise. Let’s be clear—this Silk Road, in whatever form, is the road to prison. Those looking to follow in the footsteps of alleged cybercriminals should understand that we will return as many times as necessary to shut down noxious online criminal bazaars. We don’t get tired.

They had informants on the SR1 message board before SR2 was created to make it easier for them to become trusted by anyone who decided to make a new similar deep web illegal marketplace.  
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November 07, 2014, 07:35:11 AM
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What about sr3 now?
When and how will it open?
Will it get thrashed by fbi again?

P.S : I used to think that except for vice city, fbi was dead
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November 07, 2014, 07:44:21 AM
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What about sr3 now?
When and how will it open?
Will it get thrashed by fbi again?

P.S : I used to think that except for vice city, fbi was dead
sr2 was open in 5 weeks after sr1 death.

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November 07, 2014, 08:01:52 AM
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Well that sucks. I guess I'll just have to go back to the Dr for my OxyContin.

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November 07, 2014, 08:12:48 AM
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Well, it looks like that's the end of illegal drug use.

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November 07, 2014, 08:20:19 AM
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He was running it from inside the US. From San Francisco. The stupidity of that blows my mind. It blew my mind with SR the first time, it doubly blows the second time. The lesson should be- so far only idiots start up online drug marketplaces.

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November 07, 2014, 08:21:44 AM
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Well, it looks like that's the end of illegal drug use.

I guess you are kidding ;-)

There will be other Silk Roads soon, and soon after there will be decentralized markets without a single point failure that can be taken down.

When people want to buy something, there are sellers.
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November 07, 2014, 08:33:13 AM
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Well, it looks like that's the end of illegal drug use.
So, we won the drug war?

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November 07, 2014, 08:45:04 AM
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Well, it looks like that's the end of illegal drug use.
So, we won the drug war?

Yep, bring back the troops. Parades in NYC and a baby boom soon to follow.

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November 07, 2014, 09:01:02 AM
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Thing that gets me is the price of pot is $50 a 1/8th in SF and Billions of dollars spent on weed yearly.

Why are these ass holes selling other shit when there is already one market to dominate... CO cash tons of cash their businesses can't put into the bank and no one is lobbying them.

Blows me the fuck away.

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November 07, 2014, 09:01:35 AM
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What's the source for these colossal fuckups?

People think because they have a high IQ and they're on the Internet that they're somehow invulnerable.

They end up thinking they're Walter White when they're Moe, Larry or Curly.

Anyone who sets up something called Silk Road 3 is just begging for it, because that name alone is like waving a red flag.

Because of the amount of drugs involved, even with small profits for that amount, these idiots are going to be facing "kingpin" sentencing enhancements, some of which basically result in a mandatory minimum of LIFE.  All so they could play badass drug kingpin on the Internet.
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November 07, 2014, 09:07:59 AM
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What's the source for these colossal fuckups?

People think because they have a high IQ and they're on the Internet that they're somehow invulnerable.

They end up thinking they're Walter White when they're Moe, Larry or Curly.

Anyone who sets up something called Silk Road 3 is just begging for it, because that name alone is like waving a red flag.

Because of the amount of drugs involved, even with small profits for that amount, these idiots are going to be facing "kingpin" sentencing enhancements, some of which basically result in a mandatory minimum of LIFE.  All so they could play badass drug kingpin on the Internet.

Nah I bet this lil pecker checker gets 10-20 and serves 2-5 years.  Depending on how many of his friends he burns and how many details he gives on how to make something like this happen.

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November 07, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
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US government really found a way to grab themselves some coins. This is the first time in history they had some positive cash flow and real asset without a corresponding debt from FED  Cheesy

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November 07, 2014, 09:17:30 AM
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What about sr3 now?
When and how will it open?
Will it get thrashed by fbi again?

P.S : I used to think that except for vice city, fbi was dead
sr2 was open in 5 weeks after sr1 death.

Silk Road is just a name. Alternatives are available and plenty more will spring up over time, not to mention decentralized markets in the future which is what the market desperately needs to protect people on all sides.

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November 07, 2014, 09:19:25 AM
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I cannot fathom for the life of me how these people can be so intelligent but also so frikken stupid. They might be good computer programmers but they're obviously not cut out to be great criminals. Decentralization is badly needed and can't come quick enough.
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November 07, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
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US government really found a way to grab themselves some coins. This is the first time in history they had some positive cash flow and real asset without a corresponding debt from FED  Cheesy

Shit no telling how many BTC the US gov has.

They sold the SR v1.0 their cocaine by the key at the start of the site Tongue

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November 07, 2014, 09:36:48 AM
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So...twice they were able to take down a major Bitcoin drug site using laws already in existence...

And they want to pass new regulations on Bitcoin why? Because of drugs and terrrerrists?

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November 07, 2014, 09:41:18 AM
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Silk road 3.0.

here we come.

eventually it will be run on some sort or anon block chain / asset exchange. Eg the NXT asset exchange with many suppliers could probably do it.

Wont be able to take that down.

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November 07, 2014, 09:42:44 AM
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Silk road 3.0.

here we come.

eventually it will be run on some sort or anon block chain / asset exchange. Eg the NXT asset exchange with many suppliers could probably do it.

Wont be able to take that down.

This is what will and needs to happen. Check out Open Bazaar which is trying to become the first decentralized marketplace.

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