Operator of Silk Road 2.0, Blake Benthall, arrested yesterday by FBI agents in S

[Brewins]

Any explanation about how did he get caught?

I'm more concerned about wether they managed to break tor or not than about btc price

[NotLambchop]

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Also, when people hear "drugs" or "Silk Road" they think about crack, meth and heroin.

...none of which were sold on SR2.
The clientele--shellshocked cancer patients suffering from cluster headaches--came to SR2 in search of...

...medical cannabis... MDMA for PTSD ...  LSD/Psilocybin Mushrooms for cancer patients and cluster headaches (pretty much the only solution THAT WORKS as a cure for people who have them)

And because heartless gubermibnts sadistically criminalized these life-saving medications, SR2 was forced to sell fake passports (to facilitate travel to more humane localities), and carding/skimming crap (to make the medical international travel more affordable).

Yeah, totally relate, bro.
I'm an anhedonia sufferer myself.  BRB, banging speedballs to feel normal.

[Wilhelm]

Yes but they got what they deserved. What they were doing was illegal and what did they expect.

No, they are not getting "what they deserve." Just because something is illegal doesn't mean those found guilty of it "deserve" what happens to them.

It's illegal for women in Saudi Arabia to commit adultery. Does this mean that women found guilty of it deserve to be executed?

There was a time in the United States where my current girlfriend and I could have been sent to jail/prison merely for being in an intimate relationship. It wasn't only socially unacceptable, it was criminal. Would we have deserved to be sent to prison?

In 50-100 years, we will look back as a society at the drug war and shake our heads with disbelief.

People like you allow government and other non-thinkers to dictate your right and wrong. It is the ignorance of you, and people like you, that historically has allowed horrible things to happen to people for relatively benign offenses.

THINK, goddamn you people...THINK.

Yep.

Also, when people hear "drugs" or "Silk Road" they think about crack, meth and heroin.
But what about medical cannabis? What about MDMA for PTSD? What about LSD/Psilocybin Mushrooms for cancer patients and cluster headaches (pretty much the only solution THAT WORKS as a cure for people who have them)?

There is serious research being conducted (http://www.maps.org/) on the enormous benefits of these substances if used responsibly and in the right setting.
They are all illegal.

Cluster headaches can be avoided by hooking up to O2 in time.
Also caffeine can cause headaches.

IMO you should be able to choose if you want to use drugs. There is also a major difference between drug types.
If you do take drugs then be aware of health risks and the risk of losing your job if it impairs your health or judgement.
Drugs do benefit some individuals so let them use them.

How does using drugs make you a criminal?!? I still don't understand that...
Only if you kill someone or break the law under the influence of drugs you are a criminal in my opinion.
Alcohol is a worse drug than cannabis and it is not illegal ... that's discrimination .

My 2 satoshi

[ScreamnShout]

Any explanation about how did he get caught?

We will never get the real story. The FBI is notorious for being intentionally hazy on the events leading up to an arrest.

Probably because a lot of the time they are forced to break the law in order to enforce it.

But they are the good guys, so it's ok, right?

Well according to the criminal complaint they were able to figure out that Blake was the owner of SR2 because he was extremely lazy in covering his tracks.

[Wandererfromthenorth]

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Also, when people hear "drugs" or "Silk Road" they think about crack, meth and heroin.

...none of which were sold on SR2.
The clientele--shellshocked cancer patients suffering from cluster headaches--came to SR2 in search of...

...medical cannabis... MDMA for PTSD ...  LSD/Psilocybin Mushrooms for cancer patients and cluster headaches (pretty much the only solution THAT WORKS as a cure for people who have them)

And because heartless gubermibnts sadistically criminalized these life-saving medications, SR2 was forced to sell fake passports (to facilitate travel to more humane localities), and carding/skimming crap (to make the medical international travel more affordable).

Yeah, totally relate, bro.
I'm an anhedonia sufferer myself.  BRB, banging speedballs to feel normal.

What in God's Holy Name Are You Blathering About?

SR was free, you could sell whatever the fuck you wanted (aside from weapons and child porn, at least SR1 was like that).
Vendors and users exchanged directly between each other, SR being only a site hosted that allowed the exchange of information (the user address) and of the currency.

SR was the only place where people needing the drugs I mentioned could have them without having to take too much risk on the streets and having a product that was not adulterated, clean, of quality (reputation system) etc.
That's it.

Vendors selling the drugs I mentioned probably had nothing to do with people selling fake IDs and what not.
I'm not even sure the majority of the Fake IDs being sold in the SR were real fake IDs in the first place.
There was a lot of bullshit apparently being sold by new users and scammers (but could be easily avoided by looking at the vendors reputation).

I read an article few months ago all about it.

There are sites on the DarkNet selling Hitman services. Do you think they are real? Totally not scams to get some BTC or bad jokes



Your posts are getting pretty fucking ridiculous lately.

[Wandererfromthenorth]

Cluster headaches can be avoided by hooking up to O2 in time.

As far as I know not avoided, alleviated.

[NotLambchop]

...I read an article few months ago all about it...

Wandererfromthenorth, you are angry and confused.  Please read the Blake Benthall Criminal Complaint here for a lollercoaster of hilarity.

SR2 charged for its services.  Dr. Blake was not running a free P2P clinic.
Re. "I'm not even sure the majority of the Fake IDs being sold in the SR were real fake IDs in the first place":
Of course fake IDs were fake. Start spending substantially more or substantially less on your medication of choice, the current regiment clearly hampers your reasoning ability.
And you can trust me--I'm a P2P doctor

Re. "If drugs are not being sold safely peacefully online, they are sold in the streets with people robbing and killing each other":
Substitute "loli, shota, guns, hits" for "drugs," and your argument remains just as valid.

TL;DR: The feds don't want drugs being sold, peacefully or otherwise.  Blake was the idiot poster child of neckbeard drug trade.  Buying a Tesla, I mean, how gay is that?
Monumentally incompetent, astoundingly clueless, doing everything short of screaming "look at me ma, I'm doing it!  I'm doing it! Ma!"

The only thing I'm unsure about is if Mr. Benthall is real, or if he's a government agent planted to make "darknet" drug dealers look stoopit

[Wandererfromthenorth]

...I read an article few months ago all about it...

Wandererfromthenorth, you are angry and confused.  Please read the Blake Benthall Criminal Complaint here for a lollercoaster of hilarity.

SR2 charged for its services.  Dr. Blake was not running a free P2P clinic.
Re. "I'm not even sure the majority of the Fake IDs being sold in the SR were real fake IDs in the first place":
Of course fake IDs were fake. Start spending substantially more or substantially less on your medication of choice, the current regiment clearly hampers your reasoning ability.
And you can trust me--I'm a P2P doctor

Re. "If drugs are not being sold safely peacefully online, they are sold in the streets with people robbing and killing each other":
Substitute "loli, shota, guns, hits" for "drugs," and your argument remains just as valid.

TL;DR: The feds don't want drugs being sold, peacefully or otherwise.  Blake was the idiot poster child of neckbeard drug trade.  Buying a Tesla, I mean, how gay is that?
Monumentally incompetent, astoundingly clueless, doing everything short of screaming "look at me ma, I'm doing it!  I'm doing it! Ma!"

The only thing I'm unsure about is if Mr. Benthall is real, or if he's a government agent planted to make "darknet" drug dealers look stoopit

1. By the REAL "fake ID" I meant that the vendors accounts selling fake IDs were not selling anything at all (basically a scammer, there was a lot of that on SR1 by new vendors without reputation), of course fake IDs are fake. By what I gathered about the old SR, fake Id and a lot of other shit was mostly like the sites selling hitman services. A scam.
But again, that fake ID shit is beyond my main point.
2. I haven't been following Blake Benthall case much because as I said to you earlier operating a SR version 2.0 after the first SR bust was pretty stupid, as you pointed out before and now also. So with all the "the idiot asked for it" argument, I have nothing to say against that.

My arguments were mostly for SR1 in general. Since I wasn't referring to Blake Benthall and SR2 much (SR2 wasn't even the most used darknet site ), I probably shouldn't have him included in my posts, that is correct.



PS: SR (at least version 1) didn't even allow guns, hitman scams, or child porn ("loli"?).

[Wandererfromthenorth]

In order to illustrate better the points I made about SR take the example of the upcoming Openbazaar and the issues that arise with it (anybody can sell whatever since it's decentralised and censorship free):

If it works, Openbazaar will be a place:


(1):  ...where people needing the drugs I mentioned (among a lot of other things) could have them without having to take too much risk on the streets and having a product that was not adulterated, clean, of quality (reputation system) etc.
That's it.


My point is  that it is not righteous to shut down a site or software that allows (1) simply because other actors might use it for other purposes.
Exactly as it doesn't make sense to ban the internet itself just because it makes life a lot easier for child porn wierdos etc. Such a measure wouldn't make sense even if it was possible.

Of course the “defcon” dude asked for it etc. Of course the FBI was doing his job, etc But that's beyond my point.

Simple as that.

[NotLambchop]

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PS: SR (at least version 1) didn't even allow guns, hitman scams, or child porn ("loli"?).

Lol, but why?
If your argument "If drugs are not being sold safely peacefully online, they are sold in the streets with people robbing and killing each other" shows anything, it shows that all criminal activity should be allowed online, because less violence.

A budding neckbeard criminal should be able to purchase his throwaway .25 from the privacy and safety of his home mom's basement, instead of endangering himself and others by conducting business in the street

[NotLambchop]

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My point is  that it is not righteous to shut down a site or software that allows (1) simply because other actors might use it for other purposes...

It's not righteous to shut down CP websites!!1!
Child pornography is an invaluable tool for understanding the psyche of child molesters.  Why penalize the scholars and providers of such valuable research material just because said material could be misused?

[RoadStress]

Yes but they got what they deserved. What they were doing was illegal and what did they expect.

How about the law lets individuals do whatever the fuck they wish in their privacy? As long as they obey the regular civil law (no assaults, robberies etc) why would the law deny my free will? Yes you'd rather have more stuff like this happening while we use outdated laws http://en.reddit.com/r/DarkNetMarkets/comments/2lnnh1/law_enforcement_2_me_0/ instead of bringing the laws up to date to better protect the people.

Stupid ass idiots not being able to think deeper than one level/layer!

[Hyena]

Yes but they got what they deserved. What they were doing was illegal and what did they expect.

No, they are not getting "what they deserve." Just because something is illegal doesn't mean those found guilty of it "deserve" what happens to them.

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

[indiguy]

i guess thats what will happen if the gov don't benefit to it.

[poncom]

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

[NotLambchop]

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

Some hippy plant with DMT.

[Hyena]

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's essentially orally taken DMT with the help of MAOI.
<tinfoilhat>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9Rwi-tam1o
</tinfoilhat>

[Wandererfromthenorth]

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My point is  that it is not righteous to shut down a site or software that allows (1) simply because other actors might use it for other purposes...

It's not righteous to shut down CP websites!!1!
Child pornography is an invaluable tool for understanding the psyche of child molesters.  Why penalize the scholars and providers of such valuable research material just because said material could be misused?

Not what I said.

I suggest you read my posts more carefully.

[orsotheysaid]

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's like weed on steroids i've heard.

[Hyena]

I think it's unfair that the Amazon tribes get to trip balls on Ayahuasca erryday, they deserve to get busted too. I mean their tribe shaman is pretty much the local drug dealer, isn't it?

WTF is Ayahuasca?

It's like weed on steroids i've heard.

Actually it has been reported that Ayahuasca makes you quit weed and other potentially harmful drugs for life:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8ZplWWVUyH8#t=401