Bruno's accusations against Patrick Murck

[practicaldreamer]

from their ranks have come some of historys greatest men.....Marx Ludwig von Mises, Einstein, Chomsky and , well, Jackie Mason.

FTFY

You are half right - Marx renounced his Judaist background.

"Religion is the opium of the masses" etc 

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[inBitweTrust]

from their ranks have come some of historys greatest men.....Marx Ludwig von Mises, Einstein, Chomsky and , well, Jackie Mason.

FTFY

You are half right - Marx renounced his Judaist background.

"Religion is the opium of the masses" etc  

Well if you are talking about idealogy than remove Ludwig von Mises(agnostic), Einstein(atheist), and Chomsky(atheist) from the list of jews as well.

[TKeenan]

Without clarifying this a reader could easily assume that you were being bigoted, that's all. I could have listed many other descriptors that were likely characteristics of TBF and you seem to lump in jews along side Pedos and Crooks. Coincidence or a self hating jew?

Have it any way you like it, I don't care one bit.  But there is simply no getting around the fact that there are a lot of jews and a lot of crooks on the board.  Now, it appears in view of newly developed evidence, there are a lot of pedos on the board too.  I don't bring an argument that these are connected in any way whatsoever.  If your distorted manner of reason brings you to that conclusion, that is a condition you have to live with - not me.

[inBitweTrust]

Have it any way you like it, I don't care one bit.  But there is simply no getting around the fact that there are a lot of jews and a lot of crooks on the board.  Now, it appears in view of newly developed evidence, there are a lot of pedos on the board too.  I don't bring an argument that these are connected in any way whatsoever.  If your distorted manner of reason brings you to that conclusion, that is a condition you have to live with - not me.

My reasoning is quite normal to assume you intended a negative connotation when you stated "jews" because you grouped that description in with Pedos and Crooks.
Why not "men" or "business leaders" or "Caucasian", to name a few prevalent traits amongst the board?

Yes, it could be a coincidence that you listed jews as your third characteristic along side Pedos and Crooks or maybe there is something else going on?

Take the test and see if there are some underlying issues you should be aware of.

 Now, it appears in view of newly developed evidence, there are a lot of pedos on the board too.

I despise a lot of aspects of TBF but there is enough damaging evidence to accuse them of without needing to make up facts or exaggerate. There is one board member who was accused of Hebephilia and Ephebophilia(not Pedophilia ) with a little evidence to support this accusation. Another board member might have evidence brought forth shortly. So you are not only incorrect in your use of the term pedophilia but the fact that 0-2 members being Ephebophiliacs hardly constitutes as a lot.

P.S.. Ethically, I don't think any of those tendencies to be moral : Pedophilia (pre-pubescent ) ,Hebephilia (pubescent 11-14), Ephebophilia (adolescent 15 to 19)... but when you lump them all under the category of "pedo" it is doing a great disservice to the severity of the crimes committed against pre-pubescents and doing a disservice to society by not understanding the issues and how to combat the problems appropriately.

[BlindMayorBitcorn]

I don't honestly know what the OP is on about anymore. The KnC thing was one thing, but if he has evidence of serious crimes against minors (if that is indeed what we are talking about) then why has he waited until now to (sort of) come out with it?

[moriartybitcoin]

The Patrick Murck speaketh, with is legalese speakish:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ldjk7/hello_rbitcoin_im_patrick_murck_executive/clvjgbw

I'm not keen on leaking information on blockchain transactions generally. I'm also not keen on setting a precedent here that every time you come up with a conspiracy theory (and if I know you there will always be more) I have to violate the trust of our members.

This fuckin' crazy ass lawyer actually tries to turn the motherfuckin' tables on the issue via painting the messenger - me - as a Looney Tune.





So, it's okay to publicly reveal the over 800 donators and members who've paid via 5877+ BTC here 1BTCorgHwCg6u2YSAWKgS17qUad6kHmtQW, but not the ONE most important publicly broadcast via myriad press releases transaction that has been pressing for for over five months now because I, a kook, and NO OTHERS, have made it a moot issue in your fuckin' eyes.

Sorry, but that duck (pun?) won't hunt, for I will now disclose some shit about this fuckin' Patrick Murck that I have kept secret for a while now, but thanks to now knowing exactly what sort of prick we are truly dealing with here, I'm going on record right here, right now, and declare the following:

Several years ago, our venerable Patrick Murck was accused of not one, not two, now three, but...wait for it...27 counts of pedophilia. To be clear, child rape, all involving very young girls, some not even in their teens at the time, at <redacted for now>.

Patrick Murck, if you don't want desire said information to be broadcast further, along with how your sorry ass was able to buy your way out of being fully prosecuted, then I suggest you step down, resigning your position at The Bitcoin Foundation within 48 hours.

If, after 48 hours your are still in place, I will release all I have to the media, thus destroying whatever career you may now enjoy.

If you feel that I am lying, and that I am now blackmailing you, of which may be the case, then by all means you are in your right to sue my ass, with I giving you permission to do such, mailing such papers to the address found here: https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3949/15525595460_4eaefed8f5_c.jpg

Your call, Patrick Murck, seeing if you truly want this can o' worms opened, exposing your fuckin' ass to the nth degree, for that's exactly what I WILL do if you do not step aside, for I have nothing to lose and can easily, very motherfuckin' easily, back up what I just accused you of.

How do you like this crazy ass kook now, you son of a bitch?

~Bruno Kucinskas

PS: The Rubicon has been crossed, and I'm putting my reputation, livelihood and well-being on the line by posting these sad allegations.

Furthermore, I honestly believe that The Bitcoin Foundation has been instrumental is laundering millions of dollars via BTC with off-the-book dealings.

lol the entire Bitcoin Foundation is a den of corrupt thieves .. why does anyone care about these morons?

[QuestionAuthority]

I don't understand them having a lot of Jews. Aren't Catholic priests the ones that like to bugger little kids? If TBF is going for a theme shouldn't they have Pedos, Crooks and Catholics?

[darkmule]

Apparently, the board is full of Pedos, Crooks and Jews.  Usually, a board member is 2 out of 3 of these.

There is certainly nothing at all wrong with them.  I didn't state there was anything wrong with them.  I merely state the board is full of these.  If you feel there is something wrong with jews, that is fully on you.  I think they are fine.  Indeed, I am one.  Missing foreskin and all.

Troll detected.  You didn't say the board is full of "Catholics, Presbyterians and Jews."  You said "Pedos, Crooks and Jews."  Noscitur a sociis.

I suggest ignoring this troll.

[TKeenan]

You didn't say the board is full of "Catholics, Presbyterians and Jews."  
I suggest ignoring this troll.

I didn't say the board is full of Catholics, Presbyterians and Jews, because the board isn't full of Catholics, Presbyterians and Jews.  The board is full of Pedos, Crooks, and Jews.  Further, it is clear you don't understand Latin.

[inBitweTrust]

 The board is full of Pedos, Crooks, and Jews.

......and don't forget filled with "non-murderers" and "non-homeless" and "non-anonymous" and "mostly Caucasian" and "mostly male" ... ect...

WTF, is your point with mentioning a lot of them are jewish?

[repentance]

I don't honestly know what the OP is on about anymore. The KnC thing was one thing, but if he has evidence of serious crimes against minors (if that is indeed what we are talking about) then why has he waited until now to (sort of) come out with it?

Phin, you need to "publish and be damned" here if you have evidence to back up your allegations.  You can't claim any moral high ground if you're willing to keep the information to yourself if Patrick steps down - that just makes you a willing part of whatever cover up you claim has been going on.  It's just putting a price on your own integrity, which I'm sure isn't your intention.

[inBitweTrust]

It suggests part of his motivation that spurs him to expend so much effort into these investigations is driven by the thrill of the hunt and feeling of power when he can blackmail others with it.

A certain amount of this positive feedback from attention and power is unavoidable and may be good for the community but one must also step back and reflect at times on the consequences of what one does and also how will it reflect upon themselves.

If I was privy to this information I would first start a dialogue with the individual to hear their side of the story or either hire and investigator to verify the claims or share the information with authorities. If he has already done all these steps months ago he should have mentioned as much for his own credibility. At no point is it just to blackmail someone with unrelated issues (Or are you suggesting KNC miner paid the membership fee with pre-pubescent girls for the purposes of rape?)

[repentance]

It suggests part of his motivation that spurs him to expend so much effort into these investigations is driven by the thrill of the hunt and feeling of power when he can blackmail others with it.

A certain amount of this positive feedback from attention and power is unavoidable and may be good for the community but one must also step back and reflect at times on the consequences of what one does and also how will it reflect upon themselves.

If I was privy to this information I would first start a dialogue with the individual to hear their side of the story or either hire and investigator to verify the claims or share the information with authorities. If he has already done all these steps months ago he should have mentioned as much for his own credibility. At no point is it just to blackmail someone with unrelated issues (Or are you suggesting did KNC miner paid the membership fee with pre-pubescent girls for the purposes of rape?)

Yeah, I don't think Phin has totally thought this through.  If Patrick did step down in response to the allegations, Phin would forever be tainted as someone who knows damaging information about Patrick and is keeping it quiet - something which would reflect very poorly on Phin's own reputation.  Do you really want to be viewed as a person who is knowingly covering up for a paedophile, Phin?

And yeah, we've seen this before when people have come across damaging information about prominent members of the community.  You're not a crusader for truth if you're willing to suppress that information if your conditions are met - you're part of the problem.  You're not going to be remembered by anyone else as the person who forced the bad guy of the moment to pack up his ball and go home.  I've seen you get disappointed in the past, Phin, when you have felt the community hasn't valued the effort you've put into trying to connect dots, so try to keep your own ego out of this.

Be very careful here, Phin.  You might not have as much leverage as you think and this could bite you in the ass very badly.  Make sure you have all your ducks in a row before you escalate this any further.  Don't let your ego cloud your judgement here.

[Gleb Gamow]

It suggests part of his motivation that spurs him to expend so much effort into these investigations is driven by the thrill of the hunt and feeling of power when he can blackmail others with it.

A certain amount of this positive feedback from attention and power is unavoidable and may be good for the community but one must also step back and reflect at times on the consequences of what one does and also how will it reflect upon themselves.

If I was privy to this information I would first start a dialogue with the individual to hear their side of the story or either hire and investigator to verify the claims or share the information with authorities. If he has already done all these steps months ago he should have mentioned as much for his own credibility. At no point is it just to blackmail someone with unrelated issues (Or are you suggesting did KNC miner paid the membership fee with pre-pubescent girls for the purposes of rape?)

Yeah, I don't think Phin has totally thought this through.  If Patrick did step down in response to the allegations, Phin would forever be tainted as someone who knows damaging information about Patrick and is keeping it quiet - something which would reflect very poorly on Phin's own reputation.  Do you really want to be viewed as a person who is knowingly covering up for a paedophile, Phin?

And yeah, we've seen this before when people have come across damaging information about prominent members of the community.  You're not a crusader for truth if you're willing to suppress that information if your conditions are met - you're part of the problem.  You're not going to be remembered by anyone else as the person who forced the bad guy of the moment to pack up his ball and go home.  I've seen you get disappointed in the past, Phin, when you have felt the community hasn't valued the effort you've put into trying to connect dots, so try to keep your own ego out of this.

Be very careful here, Phin.  You might not have as much leverage as you think and this could bite you in the ass very badly.  Make sure you have all your ducks in a row before you escalate this any further.  Don't let your ego cloud your judgement here.

Yep. I didn't think this through, acting while pissed off now put my family, some located in other states, possibly in danger, but definitely now in various degrees of depression, one of which was already in a severe state but slowly recovering, but now thanks to my actions, and possibly somebody from Patrick's camp being responsibly, she's relapsed, thus it's prudent I cease communicating on this issue and am about to pass what I have to proper authorities.

I'm now locking this thread, along with the other recent threads that are TBF related.

~Bruno Kucinskas