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June 03, 2012, 10:10:27 PM
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These brand new 12" king sized memory foam mattresses are valued at $2700. They do not come with the bed frame just the mattress. The cost of shipping is covered in my price. I will accept a verified escrow agent if you are willing to pay the fee's as I am already covering the shipping cost. Please post here with your contact information or message me if you are interested or want to know additional information.


they are brand new never been used. Also anyone who is interested and has good ratings/reviews on the forum I will split the escrow fee's with them on the first transaction Smiley

They are 12” Nature’s Sleep Memory Foam Mattress's, king sized. Your also covered by the manufactures 20 year limited warranty on all purchases. They are shipped directly from the manufacture. Please dont ask me how I can get this deal because then all your going to do is go and do it yourself and I am trying to run a business here.   All in all, it is a very great deal, don't be the one to miss out   




 Only the finest ingredients are in the Series II memory foam mattresses. The Advanced visco technology memory foam is pure and perfect and this mattress has 3” of it. Plush and contouring, pressure relieving and caressing. You won’t find a memory foam mattress that feels this good at twice the price. The dual layered support core features 2” of pressure relieving foam on top of a base layer of 7” high density support core. Progressive support and comfort is what this mattress is all about. Sleep with security and softness on an 80/20 cotton blend velour, embossed and antimicrobial cover with a zipper for easy washing.  But there’s more, not only does it feel great but it looks great too. This Eurotop cover has 2 decorator cordings and stone micro suede sides. Comfort and beauty, support and durability and a 8 out of 10 on our firm/plush comfort scale


Quilt - Top of Mattress
Natural Cotton Velour Washable Zippered cover for easy removal and washing
80/20 cotton-ply allergen resistant
Meets all flammability standards
Memory foam is resistant to dust mites and is naturally antimicrobial
Comfort - Padding Layers
3" 6.0 lbs. density Next Generation Visco Memory Foam
Core - Base of Foam Mattress
9" 2.2lbs high density foam core
Additional Features

Removable and washable cover with non-skid bottom
Vacuum packed to 1/3 the size of the mattress and returns to 100 percent in 12 hours
Due to machine manufacturing processes, there may be slight variances in the dimensions of this product.
Comfort
Variable
Mattress Dimensions
Mattress Height: 12"
King Width: 76" Length: 80"
Queen Width: 60" Length: 80"
Warranty
20 year limited warranty


http://www.us-mattress.com/natures-sleep-12-memory-foam.html

im interested. if i buy it how many days do you think it will take to get shipped to canada if you're covering the shipping fee?

Sorry I should have clarified the shipping, through my deal with them I can only sale to US customers.

I'm extremely interested but I really need pics before I can talk the wife into it.

Also I need confirmation that this isn't a serial # / replacement scam.
They are not %100 not replacements,
 but you can also view them on www.us-mattress.com/natures-sleep-12-memory-foam.html
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June 04, 2012, 12:48:34 AM
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is this the same product?

http://www.amazon.com/King-Density-Viscoelastic-Memory-Mattress/dp/B000EPKLFA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1338770883&sr=8-2
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No it is not, that is a generic brand that is trying to compete with the more expensive brands, i.e the brand I am selling. It also says that in its description Smiley But Even the knock off brand with a discount is still more then you would be paying for a authentic version through me. I only have a limited number that I can sale.
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I can't vouch for longtimenosee but I love me some good memory foam.  Never knew what a real nice rest was until we bought a Tempurpedic.  I couldn't imagine sleeping on anything else.  I hate traveling on business because that is when I experience how much most mattresses suck. Sad

To the OP:  which matress is it?
There are multiple 12" models.  Might help to link to the exact model you are selling.
http://shop.naturessleep.com/
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is this all memory foam or like the 5" visco and the rest is regular foam? Does this mattress have that chemical smell that everyone complains about?


@DAT, is it hot sleeping on a memory foam mattress?
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@DAT, is it hot sleeping on a memory foam mattress?

It is a little warmer but not as bad as I thought based on some complaints.  The mattress I ended up picking has some kind of "airflow technology or something" because I was kinda worried about that.  So maybe that helps (or maybe it is just marketing). In summer I just bumped the AC temp down a degree or two at night and I don't notice.
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June 04, 2012, 04:29:16 PM
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also, going by the picture, it looks like this one

http://shop.naturessleep.com/12-St-Cloud-LUXE-Mattress-NSF5120.htm
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@DAT, is it hot sleeping on a memory foam mattress?

It is a little warmer but not as bad as I thought based on some complaints.  The mattress I ended up picking has some kind of "airflow technology or something" because I was kinda worried about that.  So maybe that helps (or maybe it is just marketing). In summer I just bumped the AC temp down a degree or two at night and I don't notice.

Is yours solid memory foam or do they all have the same foam core deal with the visco on top?
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If you are married and/or have any kind of sex life, keep the following in mind:

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Foam May Kill the Mood
The biggest complaint about memory foam is that it gets hot, and it responds to heat by softening. This creates almost a dough-like feeling, which easily kills the mood.

The advantage of a foam mattress for sleeping could be a major disadvantage for getting frisky: There's virtually no bounce. You've all seen the commercial where a person rolls around on a foam mattress while a glass of wine is sits on the bed next to them not moving at all. That's the point. Foam molds around your body and absorbs your movements. Therefore it's tough to maneuver quickly on it and it will sink when pressure is put on it.
(Taken from http://www.shelterpop.com/2011/02/08/best-bed-for-sex/)

I don't have one, so I couldn't corroborate, but it's a complaint that I've heard from a few different places.

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June 04, 2012, 04:43:13 PM
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If you are married and/or have any kind of sex life, keep the following in mind:

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Foam May Kill the Mood
The biggest complaint about memory foam is that it gets hot, and it responds to heat by softening. This creates almost a dough-like feeling, which easily kills the mood.

The advantage of a foam mattress for sleeping could be a major disadvantage for getting frisky: There's virtually no bounce. You've all seen the commercial where a person rolls around on a foam mattress while a glass of wine is sits on the bed next to them not moving at all. That's the point. Foam molds around your body and absorbs your movements. Therefore it's tough to maneuver quickly on it and it will sink when pressure is put on it.
(Taken from http://www.shelterpop.com/2011/02/08/best-bed-for-sex/)

I don't have one, so I couldn't corroborate, but it's a complaint that I've heard from a few different places.

Then I sure as frell don't want one! Thanks for the tip!

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Meh.  I have never noticed a problem but if you need a little extra bounce:
(NSFW) http://www.liberator.com/

Ok I am going to leave now before this goes further off topic. Smiley
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Meh.  I have never noticed a problem but if you need a little extra bounce:
(NSFW) http://www.liberator.com/

Ok I am going to leave now before this goes further off topic. Smiley

no, thats a good thing to discuss. Do you have to get creative when youre being intimate on this thing, or can you still move around well enough to get the job done.
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If its made of foam then its not stuffed. Can I saw one in have and use it for 2 separate twin size beds? They are both against walls so Im thinking I could put the sawed half up to the wall so the edge you roll off of is still curved. Damn I guess that voids the 20yr warranty too.
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I can't vouch for longtimenosee but I love me some good memory foam.  Never knew what a real nice rest was until we bought a Tempurpedic.  I couldn't imagine sleeping on anything else.  I hate traveling on business because that is when I experience how much most mattresses suck. Sad

To the OP:  which matress is it?
There are multiple 12" models.  Might help to link to the exact model you are selling.
http://shop.naturessleep.com/

This is actually the model that I am referring to:
http://shop.naturessleep.com/12-Natures-Sleep-Memory-Foam-Mattress-King-NS51200-GKG.htm


is this all memory foam or like the 5" visco and the rest is regular foam? Does this mattress have that chemical smell that everyone complains about?


@DAT, is it hot sleeping on a memory foam mattress?

Right its 3" visco, 2" pressure reducing foam and 7" high density support foam. Has a 1-10 rating of 8 on the firm-plushness scale

It's layered that way on purpose, it supports you better while still having you feeling weightless without the "sucking you to the bottom" feeling.

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As far as for the the problems getting busy, me personally, my girls love it Wink especially when they pass out and forget they have to get up and goto work in the morning.
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I can't vouch for longtimenosee but I love me some good memory foam.  Never knew what a real nice rest was until we bought a Tempurpedic.  I couldn't imagine sleeping on anything else.  I hate traveling on business because that is when I experience how much most mattresses suck. Sad

To the OP:  which matress is it?
There are multiple 12" models.  Might help to link to the exact model you are selling.
http://shop.naturessleep.com/

This is actually the model that I am referring to:
http://shop.naturessleep.com/12-Natures-Sleep-Memory-Foam-Mattress-King-NS51200-GKG.htm


is this all memory foam or like the 5" visco and the rest is regular foam? Does this mattress have that chemical smell that everyone complains about?


@DAT, is it hot sleeping on a memory foam mattress?

Right its 3" visco, 2" pressure reducing foam and 7" high density support foam. Has a 1-10 rating of 8 on the firm-plushness scale

It's layered that way on purpose, it supports you better while still having you feeling weightless without the "sucking you to the bottom" feeling.

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As far as for the the problems getting busy, me personally, my girls love it Wink especially when they pass out and forget they have to get up and goto work in the morning.

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is this going to smell like the other brands do? can i try it free for 30 days like the commercials?
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Do you have any feedback or any way for us to verify that you have successfully transacted on these in the past?

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assuming you have feedback or are willing to go first/use escrow, you can put me down for 1. can you get the box spring thing that goes with it too?
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girl(s) - nice

is this going to smell like the other brands do? can i try it free for 30 days like the commercials?


I don't notice it, if you search for reviews i dont think youll find too many negative ones. I think the cover that comes with it has something to do with it
Do you have any feedback or any way for us to verify that you have successfully transacted on these in the past?

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I'll let me sales from this forum be my feedback since I am sure most people who do show interest will want to have a middleman involved.

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assuming you have feedback or are willing to go first/use escrow, you can put me down for 1. can you get the box spring thing that goes with it too?


I will only go first if escrow is involved.

Sorry, I dont have the box springs Sad Working on getting a better deal on them.
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assuming you have feedback or are willing to go first/use escrow, you can put me down for 1. can you get the box spring thing that goes with it too?


I will only go first if escrow is involved.

Sorry, I dont have the box springs Sad Working on getting a better deal on them.

these are legally obtained, right?

I'll see if I can get one of the mods to do the escrow. Also, do you offer any type of warranty with this or does it all go through the manufacturer?
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these are legally obtained, right?

I'll see if I can get one of the mods to do the escrow. Also, do you offer any type of warranty with this or does it all go through the manufacturer?

Yes, they are. Ok Pm me once your ready. With the manufactures warranty there really isn't a need for any additional warranty's.
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I have been asked to escrow this tx.
Fee of 0.5% will be paid by the seller.

Newly generated address for escrow funds:
1BAs2AZuGf7BW2upeAH3MYXPTfU9GhtaZy

Payment will be released upon confirmation by buyer.
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payment sent to DAT Escrow. DAT, can you please confirm? Thanks.

http://blockchain.info/address/1BAs2AZuGf7BW2upeAH3MYXPTfU9GhtaZy

I will PM shipping info to the seller.
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payment sent to DAT Escrow. DAT, can you please confirm? Thanks.

http://blockchain.info/address/1BAs2AZuGf7BW2upeAH3MYXPTfU9GhtaZy

I will PM shipping info to the seller.

Confirmed.


74.13 BTC received.
0.37 BTC reserved for my fee.
73.76 BTC will be sent to longtimenosee upon release by lolwut
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payment sent to DAT Escrow. DAT, can you please confirm? Thanks.

http://blockchain.info/address/1BAs2AZuGf7BW2upeAH3MYXPTfU9GhtaZy

I will PM shipping info to the seller.

Confirmed.


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73.76 BTC will be sent to longtimenosee upon release by lolwut


Received confirmation of payment, processed order for shipment, will provide shipping confirmation to buyer, will be shipped via fedex. Thank you Smiley
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finally getting a good nights sleep!!!!
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There's no option for queen sized, is there?


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*** FRAUD ALERT ***

After the seller received confirmation the funds were in escrow, he sent me portion of what looked to be a receipt. The receipt showed My name and address as the billing and shipping info. Then he showed this:

Payment Information:
Payment Method: Prepaid
Items
Qty   Item #   Description   Price Each   Total
1   NS51200-GKG    12” Nature’s Sleep Memory Foam Mattress - King
$2,700.00   $2,700.00
Subtotal:   $2,700.00
Less Coupon  KFRV****:   ($2,700.00)
Subtotal:   $0.00
Tax :   $0.00
Shipping (FedEx Services):   $405.00
Free Shipping:   ($405.00)
Shipping Subtotal:   $0.00
Total:   $0.00
Balance Due:   $0.00


So I called Nature's Sleep at 877-557-5337. They have been having lots of issues with people using stolen credit cards to buy gift codes, then using the gift codes to place orders for people. They also said he ordered multiple mattresses with the same card. So if anyone else here orderes from him please speak up!!

Thats enough red flags for me, but theres more.

Nature's Sleep gave me his IP and email. His ip is a mobile device and it has only been used once on their entire website (my order). I am waiting to speak with someone in their IT department, as well as having them find out where the code he used came from. If this is just a coincidence, i apolgize in advance, but I'm quite doubtful.

(I will remove this post if this turns out to be an honest order.)
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...wow. Goddamn carders leaching off of the Bitcoin community. Good thing we have trusted escrow providers.

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...wow. Goddamn carders leaching off of the Bitcoin community. Good thing we have trusted escrow providers.

yeah, as soon as i saw my info on billing and shipping and the gift code, i had to call the mfgr.
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lets hope he did a good job covering his tracks, because I'm very good at finding things.

Looks like the ip he was using belongs to an ATT tower in Lake Mary, Florida. That's about 20 minutes from where I live. More info to come.
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...wow. Goddamn carders leaching off of the Bitcoin community. Good thing we have trusted escrow providers.

Well the bad news is escrow doesn't provide any protection from carders.
If lolwut received the item and asked me to clear the escrow then I would have.

It would be 30-180 days later before either the company requests a demand notice for $2700 or the Police show up at his doorstep.

If anything this shows the limitation of escrow and the long reach of reversible transactions.
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...wow. Goddamn carders leaching off of the Bitcoin community. Good thing we have trusted escrow providers.

Well the bad news is escrow doesn't provide any protection from carders.
If lolwut received the item and asked me to clear the escrow then I would have.

It would be 30-180 days later before either the company requests a demand notice for $2700 or the Police show up at his doorstep.

If anything this shows the limitation of escrow and the long reach of reversible transactions.

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Bravo
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...wow. Goddamn carders leaching off of the Bitcoin community. Good thing we have trusted escrow providers.

Well the bad news is escrow doesn't provide any protection from carders.
If lolwut received the item and asked me to clear the escrow then I would have.

It would be 30-180 days later before either the company requests a demand notice for $2700 or the Police show up at his doorstep.

If anything this shows the limitation of escrow and the long reach of reversible transactions.

You're my hero  Grin
Yeah it takes a few things; An escrow provider to make the scammer start the process, and a smart buyer that knows what a red flag looks like. Grin

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Damn good catch. I was waiting until your order cleared before I purchased one.
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I just got off the phone with the company again. They verified this order IS FRAUDULENT. He ordered 2 kings and 2 queens on the same gift code. He has placed over 100 gift card orders using the same name. So either their website has been compromised or he has been carding up a storm.

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he's using att prepaids for phone/web to place each order. can we have a mod check the ip hes been using to access the forum? my guess is hes using tor.

DAT, if theres more info you need from me let me know. Nature's Sleep has offered to sell me the same mattress for $599, which is very nice of them.
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I already used my voucher to place your order, now it will be a hassle to have it switched over since I don't have any open orders right now. If you were having concerns you should have addressed them before I placed your order. I am not sure what you said when you called but I thought it went without saying that if someone is able to get that good of a discount on a product then that means they know something you do not, im not sure what you said when you contacted them. If it were a fraudulent order and they so easily told you so then I am sure they would not plan on delivering the product. That goes without saying doesn't it? So when they do ship it let me know what you think then Wink As far as how its done, I will say that it is not fraudulent but an exploitation in a system which is 100% legal. Either way they win, i win, the customer wins. But let me know how you want to proceed soon, ideally within the next 3-4 hours because once they ship it then I technically am screwed and have to have you reship back to me  Sad
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Legal? Roll Eyes

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100% legal exploit....lol
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if windixie or publix or whatever prints a coupon that says buy 1 get 1 free but forgets to say "1 per household" or some kind of stipulation would you consider it illegal if someone notices it and goes to the store with 5-10 of those coupons? Or even bundles those coupons with others....just to give you an example.

I said "great, give me your address and I will ship the item back to you if I receive it"

Ok let me see what I can do first on my end to cancel it first, Never had to deal with a cancellation...really wish this would have been addressed from the beginning though. If they tell me its possible for me to cancel it then there should be no issue. Give me about an hour to get home and call them. But as I said. Everyone wins, they did get paid at a bulk rate, I make a few dollars, you get a discount and they get free marketing...But give me an hour

lets see what happens next!
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Yeah it takes a few things; An escrow provider to make the scammer start the process, and a smart buyer that knows what a red flag looks like. Grin

That I will agree with.  Escrow is good because without it the carder could have gotten funds anyways but it does require a smart buyer.
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DAT, if theres more info you need from me let me know. Nature's Sleep has offered to sell me the same mattress for $599, which is very nice of them.

lolwut,
I trust you and this does smell like a scam but it becomes my rep and the escrow agent needs to be impartial.   If I return the escrow, the item ships anyways, and the order was valid well that is a pretty good "reverse scam" and my rep as an escrow agent suffers.

Your funds are safe and while this may be unpopular I hope you understand I am going to wait 72 hours, or until I get verified proof that the order is canceled, or the seller agrees to a release (whichever comes first) before releasing the funds.

Congrats on catching a potentially very expensive scam (if it is a scam my guess is the company would be looking for $2700 in damages).

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if you have any information to make in your defense feel free to post it here or by PM.  Barring shipment confirmation I will be returning the funds to lolwut in 72 hours.   If the item ships then I can't release the funds but they won't be going to the seller until we get some solid evidence the deal is on the up and up.

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can we get a scammer tag to warn other potential buyers (and escrow agents who get annoyed when caught up in dumb shit like this Smiley )
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DAT, if theres more info you need from me let me know. Nature's Sleep has offered to sell me the same mattress for $599, which is very nice of them.

lolwut,
I trust you and this does smell like a scam but it becomes my rep and the escrow agent needs to be impartial.   If I return the escrow, the item ships anyways, and the order was valid well that is a pretty good "reverse scam" and my rep as an escrow agent suffers.

Your funds are safe and while this may be unpopular I hope you understand I am going to wait 72 hours, or until I get verified proof that the order is canceled, or the seller agrees to a release (whichever comes first) before releasing the funds.

Congrats on catching a potentially very expensive scam (if it is a scam my guess is the company would be looking for $2700 in damages).

longtimenosee,
if you have any information to make in your defense feel free to post it here or by PM.  Barring shipment confirmation I will be returning the funds to lolwut in 72 hours.   If the item ships then I can't release the funds but they won't be going to the seller until we get some solid evidence the deal is on the up and up.

mods,
can we get a scammer tag to warn other potential buyers (and escrow agents who get annoyed when caught up in dumb shit like this Smiley )

I have already gotten confirmation from Nature's Sleep that the order is fraudulent and will not ship. If I can get them to send me an email stating this, will that suffice? I dont think anything the seller says now will be the truth, hes just going to try and scam his way in to receiving the funds. (what if he says it shipped and i received it, etc)
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I have already gotten confirmation from Nature's Sleep that the order is fraudulent and will not ship. If I can get them to send me an email stating this, will that suffice?

Sure.  have them send a copy directly to info@tangiblecryptography.com and I will release the escrow.
If they can't/won't I forward me a copy and I will release escrow once I confirm it with them.

You can confirm via blockchain I haven't moved the escrow:
https://blockchain.info/address/1BAs2AZuGf7BW2upeAH3MYXPTfU9GhtaZy

I know this may be annoying but I wouldn't be very good escrow agent if I simply returned funds based on the statements of a single party.  It doesn't mean I don't trust you but I need to be impartial.  I hope you understand.

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I dont think anything the seller says now will be the truth, hes just going to try and scam his way in to receiving the funds. (what if he says it shipped and i received it, etc)

To avoid an automatic release back to you in 72 hours I would want to see a Fedex tracking # showing shipment (not just pending) along with confirmation from the company on shipment.  If that isn't provided then funds will be released back automatically in 72 hours. Even if it does ship, funds will not go to the seller they will just stay in escrow until resolved.
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I have already gotten confirmation from Nature's Sleep that the order is fraudulent and will not ship. If I can get them to send me an email stating this, will that suffice?

Sure.  have them send a copy directly to info@tangiblecryptography.com and I will release the escrow.
If they can't/won't I forward me a copy and I will release escrow once I confirm it with them.

You can confirm via blockchain I haven't moved the escrow:
https://blockchain.info/address/1BAs2AZuGf7BW2upeAH3MYXPTfU9GhtaZy

I know this may be annoying but I wouldn't be very good escrow agent if I simply returned funds based on the statements of a single party.  It doesn't mean I don't trust you but I need to be impartial.  I hope you understand.

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I dont think anything the seller says now will be the truth, hes just going to try and scam his way in to receiving the funds. (what if he says it shipped and i received it, etc)

To avoid an automatic release in 72 hours I would want to see a Fedex tracking # showing shipment along with confirmation from the company.  If that isn't provided then funds will be released automatically in 72 hours. Even if it does ship, funds will not go to the seller they will just stay in escrow until resolved.

OK,no problem. I'm going to call back and have her send you the email. I'm also going to order one directly from them for $599 Smiley
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OK,no problem. I'm going to call back and have her send you the email. I'm also going to order one directly from them for $599 Smiley

Also mention to her that if they accepted Bitcoins they would never have to worry about credit card fraud on those orders. Smiley
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Bravo to you lolwut. You saved a lot of us a ton of bitcoins.

And kudos to you for getting one for $600! I'm kinda jealous lol.


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I have already gotten confirmation from Nature's Sleep that the order is fraudulent and will not ship. If I can get them to send me an email stating this, will that suffice?

Sure.  have them send a copy directly to info@tangiblecryptography.com and I will release the escrow.
If they can't/won't I forward me a copy and I will release escrow once I confirm it with them.

You can confirm via blockchain I haven't moved the escrow:
https://blockchain.info/address/1BAs2AZuGf7BW2upeAH3MYXPTfU9GhtaZy

I know this may be annoying but I wouldn't be very good escrow agent if I simply returned funds based on the statements of a single party.  It doesn't mean I don't trust you but I need to be impartial.  I hope you understand.

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I dont think anything the seller says now will be the truth, hes just going to try and scam his way in to receiving the funds. (what if he says it shipped and i received it, etc)

To avoid an automatic release back to you in 72 hours I would want to see a Fedex tracking # showing shipment (not just pending) along with confirmation from the company on shipment.  If that isn't provided then funds will be released back automatically in 72 hours. Even if it does ship, funds will not go to the seller they will just stay in escrow until resolved.

I just had their customer service dept cc you on the email. If that is satisfactory, please keep 2btc for yourself and send the rest back to the wallet in my signature. thanks.
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OK,no problem. I'm going to call back and have her send you the email. I'm also going to order one directly from them for $599 Smiley
great deal and real nice of them to offer it to you.
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I just had their customer service dept cc you on the email. If that is satisfactory, please keep 2btc for yourself and send the rest back to the wallet in my signature. thanks.

I received an email directly from "Nature Sleep" confirming the order has been canceled due to credit card fraud.
I am refunding the full amount minus my fee (0.5%).  2 btc is too generous.
Do you want it returned to the same address it was sent from (13yEbZHgQSMFKsCRbgxK2bbf3wEMRjWeLs)?

If any mod would like a copy of the email for scammer tag purposes PM me.
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I just had their customer service dept cc you on the email. If that is satisfactory, please keep 2btc for yourself and send the rest back to the wallet in my signature. thanks.

I received an email directly from "Nature Sleep" confirming the order has been canceled due to credit card fraud.
I am refunding the full amount minus my fee (0.5%).  2 btc is too generous.
Do you want it returned to the same address it was sent from (13yEbZHgQSMFKsCRbgxK2bbf3wEMRjWeLs)?

If any mod would like a copy of the email for scammer tag purposes PM me.


sounds good to me, thank you sir.
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Done:
https://blockchain.info/tx-index/7981378/e297b41910a113746959f3f489b68feeaff614b04a7f375a6f3a0343786e62dc

Solid anti-scammer warfare lolwut.
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Amazing work!
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Great job

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I decided not to buy a new mattress after this whole ordeal. The company is still offering me the mattress for $599.

If anyone was interested, I could purchase from Nature's Sleep and resell to one of you fine gents. You'd have to cover shipping costs though, since I don't think asking them to ship to another address is wise in this situation.

Just a thought, but I'd do it just because I'm nice, as long as my expenses are covered.
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Thanks, I got the refund. You the man!
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100% legal exploit....lol

Exploits are legal?  Roll Eyes
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anyone thats been following this thread, please give this a read and tell me what you think.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85702.0
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mods,
can we get a scammer tag to warn other potential buyers (and escrow agents who get annoyed when caught up in dumb shit like this Smiley )
As the escrow agent and a trusted member of Bitcointalk, you would the most qualified to head the scammer investigation. Compile the evidence in a convincing manner (for both sides, as you're able) and submit it to theymos. It'll take about 10 minutes for you to do, but you'll get a much better appreciation for the process the mods have to go through every time we want to mark someone as a scammer.

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so after all this craziness, the company shipped the mattress by accident. I immediately called them after fedex dropped the 109lb package at my door.

The offered to come pick it up or to sell it to me at a very good price. So I purchased it fair and square from Nature's Sleep.

If anyone wants to buy it, hit me up Smiley
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109lb package
Shit what? That's some heavy foam right there.

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109lb package
Shit what? That's some heavy foam right there.

IT GETS BETTER:

Ok, sorry I came to cali for a few days and just took a break, I just got off the phone with the manufacture and the provided me with the tracking number on your order that was delivered, ill be back home on monday so we can arrange the reshipping if your still dissatisfied with our previous arrangement.


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Shit what? That's some heavy foam right there.

Yea I can't even imagine what the shipping costs on something that heavy would be.
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Shit what? That's some heavy foam right there.

Yea I can't even imagine what the shipping costs on something that heavy would be.

according to the manufacturer, it costs them about $250 to ship it.
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