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July 22, 2012, 11:28:03 PM
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July 30, 2012, 01:51:35 AM
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In an ideal world, what I (and I suspect many others) are looking for in mining assets is something very much like this, but as a share rather than a bond.
IPO it, set it so that half the mining proceeds (less the cost of your cheap power + 5% or so for yourself) get paid out as dividends and the rest get spent on new hardware for the company. You'd end up with quite a large hashrate quite quickly. I'd certainly be happy to invest  Cheesy

There's no reason why you couldn't do a second IPO  Wink
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July 30, 2012, 04:02:25 AM
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In an ideal world, what I (and I suspect many others) are looking for in mining assets is something very much like this, but as a share rather than a bond.
IPO it, set it so that half the mining proceeds (less the cost of your cheap power + 5% or so for yourself) get paid out as dividends and the rest get spent on new hardware for the company. You'd end up with quite a large hashrate quite quickly. I'd certainly be happy to invest  Cheesy

There's no reason why you couldn't do a second IPO  Wink

You can always reinvest your dividends. If you reinvested half your dividends you should end up with nearly the same result. 
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August 05, 2012, 08:02:45 PM
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August 06, 2012, 05:52:40 AM
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I have made a update regarding the ASIC announcement. I set the bond price at 1.73 btc.

Is there something unclear about the announcement that would lead to uncertainty or are these currently undervalued compared to GIGAMINING or BITBONDS?

GIGAMINING    - 1.13 - .226
BITBONDS        - 0.45 - .214
HYDRO.BONDS  - 1.335 - .1335

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August 06, 2012, 06:58:14 AM
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I have made a update regarding the ASIC announcement. I set the bond price at 1.73 btc.

Is there something unclear about the announcement that would lead to uncertainty or are these currently undervalued compared to GIGAMINING or BITBONDS?

GIGAMINING    - 1.13 - .226
BITBONDS        - 0.45 - .214
HYDRO.BONDS  - 1.335 - .1335

Some of the older more popular bonds are being overvalued.  It's hard to believe bonds invested in gpu's would hold a value that high with ASIC's coming out.
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August 09, 2012, 09:58:18 PM
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So you are offering free upgrade to 215Mh/s per bond, right?

That's 1.325/215Mh/s ~ 0.006BTC per 1Mh/s after upgrade. That's about two times cheaper than what Bitbond offers. What's the catch?


* Free:  2M/s BITBOND converts to 12.5Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for free
* Small upgrade:  2M/s BITBOND converts to 45Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for 0.25 btc
* Large upgrade: 2M/s BITBOND converts to 450Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for 5.5 btc

In other words, assuming a value of 0.50BTC per BITBOND share:

Free: 12.5 Mh/s for 0.50BTC = 25 Mh/s per BTC, or 0.0400BTC / 1 Mh/s
Small: 45 Mh/s for 0.75BTC = 60 Mh/s per BTC, or 0.0167BTC / 1 Mh/s
Large: 450 Mh/s for 6BTC = 75 Mh/s per BTC, 0.0133BTC / 1 Mh/s

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August 09, 2012, 10:17:27 PM
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So you are offering free upgrade to 215Mh/s per bond, right?

That's 1.325/215Mh/s ~ 0.006BTC per 1Mh/s after upgrade. That's about two times cheaper than what Bitbond offers. What's the catch?


* Free:  2M/s BITBOND converts to 12.5Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for free
* Small upgrade:  2M/s BITBOND converts to 45Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for 0.25 btc
* Large upgrade: 2M/s BITBOND converts to 450Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for 5.5 btc

In other words, assuming a value of 0.50BTC per BITBOND share:

Free: 12.5 Mh/s for 0.50BTC = 25 Mh/s per BTC, or 0.0400BTC / 1 Mh/s
Small: 45 Mh/s for 0.75BTC = 60 Mh/s per BTC, or 0.0167BTC / 1 Mh/s
Large: 450 Mh/s for 6BTC = 75 Mh/s per BTC, 0.0133BTC / 1 Mh/s


That's an easy one, bitbond & gigamining are making a profit from the transition to asics, he's not.

(disclosure, I own some hydromining bonds)

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August 11, 2012, 05:57:36 AM
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So you are offering free upgrade to 215Mh/s per bond, right?

That's 1.325/215Mh/s ~ 0.006BTC per 1Mh/s after upgrade. That's about two times cheaper than what Bitbond offers. What's the catch?


* Free:  2M/s BITBOND converts to 12.5Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for free
* Small upgrade:  2M/s BITBOND converts to 45Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for 0.25 btc
* Large upgrade: 2M/s BITBOND converts to 450Mh/s BITBOND.ASIC for 5.5 btc

In other words, assuming a value of 0.50BTC per BITBOND share:

Free: 12.5 Mh/s for 0.50BTC = 25 Mh/s per BTC, or 0.0400BTC / 1 Mh/s
Small: 45 Mh/s for 0.75BTC = 60 Mh/s per BTC, or 0.0167BTC / 1 Mh/s
Large: 450 Mh/s for 6BTC = 75 Mh/s per BTC, 0.0133BTC / 1 Mh/s


This bond is only invested in butterfly singles. The bonds you are talking about are invested in gpu equipment. It's a whole different situation for them.
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August 11, 2012, 08:03:33 AM
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Thanks for pointing this out. I got to the bitcoin game a bit late, there is a lot to catch up!

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August 20, 2012, 04:47:40 AM
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Dividends?

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October 01, 2012, 07:08:31 PM
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If the announced increase in hashrate of the butterfly SC singles does pan out (60GH versus 40 GH) will the bonds get the extra increase included in their hash rate? Would it work out to something like 320MH per bond. Also what's you SC upgrade order number?
-A happy Hydrobond holder.

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October 01, 2012, 09:39:25 PM
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There is no such thing as a happy BOND holder...

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October 02, 2012, 03:36:19 AM
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If the announced increase in hashrate of the butterfly SC singles does pan out (60GH versus 40 GH) will the bonds get the extra increase included in their hash rate? Would it work out to something like 320MH per bond. Also what's you SC upgrade order number?
-A happy Hydrobond holder.


Yeah, I'm surprised there has been no increase in the price of this bond... guess it's time to get some more on the cheap Cheesy

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