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August 20, 2010, 07:23:26 AM
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I think it's fine now, whatever you did fixed it. Now the ref link just takes me to my own account normally.

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August 20, 2010, 07:24:58 AM
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fixed some bugs, added some stuff, time to test if everythings ok now.

so here's another incredible offer:
free memberships

i'll pay the inital membership fee of 1btc to the first 10 people,
that send me a PM with subject: userid:bcaIN.

i don't mind if you already have an account and referr yourself, or just don't want to pay the fee to activate it.

anyone could grab a free spot, one per forum-account.

sign up, login, send PM, get unbelievable rich!  Roll Eyes


When I try to make another account it says "user already exists" even though I use a new name and email. I guess it's the cookie? How to get a free bitcoin!?

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August 20, 2010, 07:32:02 AM
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yes, it's the cookie,
just go to your browsers settings and delete the (only) one for fxnet.co.cc,
or use another browser-profile,
or use another browser,
..
 Cheesy


and i think i found that bug (or at least one possible reason).
user 27 shown at sponsor, is that one "referring himself" i mentioned a few posts behind (which i didn't change yet),
but i guess that's not it, will need some more tweaks.

edit:
tweaked a bit, hope it worked.

fixed some bugs, added some stuff, time to test if everythings ok now.

so here's another incredible offer:
free memberships

i'll pay the inital membership fee of 1btc to the first 10 people,
that send me a PM with subject: userid:bcaIN.

i don't mind if you already have an account and referr yourself, or just don't want to pay the fee to activate it.

anyone could grab a free spot, one per forum-account.

sign up, login, send PM, get unbelievable rich!  Roll Eyes


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August 20, 2010, 03:28:23 PM
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fixed some bugs, added some stuff, time to test if everythings ok now.

so here's another incredible offer:
free memberships

i'll pay the inital membership fee of 1btc to the first 10 people,
that send me a PM with subject: userid:bcaIN.

i don't mind if you already have an account and referr yourself, or just don't want to pay the fee to activate it.

anyone could grab a free spot, one per forum-account.

sign up, login, send PM, get unbelievable rich!  Roll Eyes
although both of you didn't get the subject right,  Grin
i just payed the first fees.


1: user 42
2: user 43
3: user 44
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August 20, 2010, 03:52:02 PM
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Thanks for the free extra account!

Quote from: BitLex
although both of you didn't get the subject right

LOL. Did FreeMoney also fail to replace "userid"?

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August 20, 2010, 04:32:38 PM
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Sorry, but this pyramid sucks. First one in, and no down line fees paid at all.

This is more like a direct referral system, not a pyramid.

your right, this isn't a good pyramid, cuz YOU as a sponsor will only get payed once per direct refferral,
all other fees are randomly payed to all members, no matter where they are located in the pyramid.

theres 42 accounts, right now 35 of 'em are activated,
what did u expect?

you already got 2 referrals, 1 of them isn't active though.
seems like you've already withdrawn those 0.5btc of the active one.

just be a bit more patient,
or at least come up with some suggestions on what to change.

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August 20, 2010, 07:45:37 PM
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With me being one of the first, and the first to post with my id, I should be reaping huge rewards in a regular pyramid Smiley I may have even have received one or two whole coins by now.

Your right, a (un- or forced) regular matrix-style pyramid would be nice mostly for those that join first,
but hey, it's a randomizer, not a pyramid.  Cheesy

as mentioned, i'm open to ideas and willing to change stuff as users want me to.
don't want to change the whole system though, maybe create a second style.

but i'm ok with splitting those .5-shares into some more/deeper level'd shares,
what'd be a good share in your opinion?
and what do others think?

update:
added a get_nextRef() function already, should be easy to add a few more sponsor-level-paments now.
how about 1st-0.2, 2nd-0.3?
or 1st-0.2, 2nd-0.2, 3rd-0.1?
or 1st-0.1, 2nd-0.1, 3rd-0.1, 4th-0.2?
or...
guess we need a survey. Cheesy
don't forget it's all about transactions, the more splits, the more transactions will occur.

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i'll pay the inital membership fee of 1btc to the first 10 people,
that send me a PM with subject: userid:bcaIN.

i don't mind if you already have an account and referr yourself, or just don't want to pay the fee to activate it.

anyone could grab a free spot, one per forum-account.

sign up, login, send PM, get unbelievable rich!  Roll Eyes

payed fees of..

1: user 42
2: user 43
3: user 44
..

7 tickets left


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August 20, 2010, 09:40:20 PM
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Still give the .5 to the sponsor, that's fine since you basically have it set up that way. The bigger numbers at the bottom, make bigger numbers for the guys up top.
so basically, it already is .5 for the first level. Direct sponsor. Then say .2 for 2nd level, .3 for 3rd level. Transactions are not smaller than .1 so there should be no fees.
That would require to get rid of all random-payments,
i dont really like the guys-on-top get almost all, others get peanuts idea, guys-on-top get most over time anyway, why not give others some bits too?

or to raise the fee to 1.Nbtc
and i'd like to keep it as low as possible, 1btc seemed nice and easy.

waitin' for other opinions...

edit:
transactions can go as low as 0.01 without causing transactions fees, can't they? i never payed any.

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August 21, 2010, 12:26:15 AM
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I think .5 random, .25 to direct referrer, .13 to referrers referrer, .06 next, .03, .02,.01

If the chain doesn't go that deep, give it all excess to the first in chain. Does that make sense to do?

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August 21, 2010, 04:07:20 AM
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transactions can go as low as 0.01 without causing transactions fees, can't they? i never payed any.

Fees are based on the number of previous transactions ("coins") you have to combine. A fee is charged if you combine more than about 500 coins. This might be a problem if you have lots of small coins lying around. 0.01 * 500 is only 5 BTC. To be safe, you should probably send large withdrawals as multiple smaller payments. Payments lower than 0.01 are "forbidden": they carry a fee of 0.01.

0.5 should continue to be randomized. It might be nicer to break it up into 5-10 parts, though, so people get something more often. I suggest the referral payment be broken up like so: 0.25, 0.1, 0.05, 0.05, 0.05.

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August 21, 2010, 07:23:49 AM
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currently testing 3.lvl-sponsors->.25/.15/.10
4 payments been sent by bitcoind, they just say "to yourself" on the GUI though,
so i'm waiting for confirmations to check back into accounts and see if coins arrive accordingly.

if anything works, i'll activate it (and/or change a bit more).

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August 21, 2010, 12:16:39 PM
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3.level sponsor payment activated.

your sponsor gets .25
2.lvl sponsor gets .15
3.lvl sponsor gets .10

as before, if any lvls sponsor isn't active, an active random member gets the share (needs to be tested though).


free memberships

i'll pay the inital membership fee of 1btc to the first 10 people,
that send me a PM with subject: userid:bcaIN.

i don't mind if you already have an account and referr yourself, or just don't want to pay the fee to activate it.

anyone could grab a free spot, one per forum-account.

sign up, login, send PM, get unbelievable rich!  Roll Eyes

payed fees of..

1: user 42
2: user 43
3: user 44
4: user 45
5: user 54
..

5 tickets left


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August 21, 2010, 01:45:10 PM
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3.level sponsor payment activated.

your sponsor gets .25
2.lvl sponsor gets .15
3.lvl sponsor gets .10

as before, if any lvls sponsor isn't active, an active random member gets the share (needs to be tested though).


I made a third account and it gave the 2 referrers the correct amounts. Can't tell about the random bit of course.

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August 21, 2010, 01:55:34 PM
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I made a third account and it gave the 2 referrers the correct amounts. Can't tell about the random bit of course.
3rd lvl would be Ground Loop as far as i see, so he should've got your 3rd share.

randomness while inactivity should work as it did before,
only thing i have NOT done yet is to check if random-1st != random-2nd != random-3rd,
so, if sponsors are inactive, you might get choosen twice/3times randomly and so get 2/3 shares.
not sure if it's a bug, or a feature?  Grin



if anythings working, i'd like to start promoting the site on some traffic-exchanges and such to promote bitcoin, that's what i created it for in the first place.
but i kinda suck on graphics-design, if anyone's bored and up to creating some banners...i'd appreciate any help.
gonna play a bit with PS now myself and see if anything useful comes out.

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August 21, 2010, 02:05:44 PM
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I made a third account and it gave the 2 referrers the correct amounts. Can't tell about the random bit of course.
3rd lvl would be Ground Loop as far as i see, so he should've got your 3rd share.

randomness while inactivity should work as it did before,
only thing i have NOT done yet is to check if random-1st != random-2nd != random-3rd,
so, if sponsors are inactive, you might get choosen twice/3times randomly and so get 2/3 shares.
not sure if it's a bug, or a feature?  Grin

Feature, imo Smiley

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August 21, 2010, 02:16:54 PM
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... if sponsors are inactive ...

When you say an account is inactive, you just mean that it hasn't been funded for BTC1, correct?

Or do you mean that there is some requirement to stay active by doing something like referring or visiting the site regularly?
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August 21, 2010, 02:26:43 PM
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correct,
all accounts that haven't received (at least) 1btc (in total) remain inactive,
once 1btc has been received, accounts stay active.
no need todo anything besides (referring if you want to,) logging in from time to time to check/withdraw earnings,
or to add links to the rotation (or do other stuff that might be added)

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August 21, 2010, 04:22:32 PM
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made a first banner (in 3 colors),

here's a link to show them rotating and clickable
http://fxnet.co.cc/img/banner.php

if you want to use that link to promote (within a frame/iframe), just add your ref=ID like this
http://fxnet.co.cc/img/banner.php?ref=23
but you can also grab the img-links to hotlink, or the imgs to put on your server, whatever fits your needs.



free memberships

i'll pay the inital membership fee of 1btc to the first 10 people,
that send me a PM with subject: userid:bcaIN.

i don't mind if you already have an account and referr yourself, or just don't want to pay the fee to activate it.

anyone could grab a free spot, one per forum-account.

sign up, login, send PM, get unbelievable rich!  Roll Eyes

payed fees of..

1: user 42
2: user 43
3: user 44
4: user 45
5: user 54
..

5 tickets left


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August 22, 2010, 06:38:32 PM
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added a downline overview to your account info
and usercount to the (bitcoind) stats shown on index-bottom.
stats also show btc-withdrawn, which doesn't mean much though, it might (will?) get higher than usercount, because anyone could fund any amount at any time to his/her balance to withdraw later and any withdrawn amount is shown here (not only earnings).

tell me if it shows strange/wrong numbers.

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August 29, 2010, 12:13:19 PM
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url-Rotator as a new promo-option,
add as many urls as you like and promote them using a single link.

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