GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Franz_Huber]

-07-30 19:12:03 <Tim Davis> Tesla is great.
2014-07-30 19:12:04 <Josh Garza> Yea, I have one of those too
2014-07-30 19:12:06 <Tim Davis> Love those cars.
2014-07-30 19:12:13 <Josh Garza> It was a gift from elon
2014-07-30 19:12:40 <Tim Davis> I met Elon about a month ago here in Cali.
2014-07-30 19:12:44 <Jacob Wheeling> Haha. Something about those Shelbys I love. Just raw power.
2014-07-30 19:12:46 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Nice. I am waiting for mine from him. He ignores me however.
2014-07-30 19:12:48 <Tim Davis> One of my heros
2014-07-30 19:12:54 <Josh Garza> Tesla uses a few of my patents
2014-07-30 19:12:58 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Absolutely
2014-07-30 19:13:06 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Wow
2014-07-30 19:13:12 <Josh Garza> So we worked on a few together, and he sent one to my house
2014-07-30 19:13:24 <Josh Garza> For may last birthday
2014-07-30 19:13:27 <Josh Garza> My
2014-07-30 19:13:51 <Jacob Wheeling> Nice present!
2014-07-30 19:13:56 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Definitely
2014-07-30 19:14:04 <Josh Garza> Have not talk to him in over a month
2014-07-30 19:14:23 <Josh Garza> Well, besides text
2014-07-30 19:14:34 <Josh Garza> But he is not a guy to keep bothering
2014-07-30 19:15:14 <unknown_100345444655821864408> That is cool.
2014-07-30 19:15:20 <unknown_100345444655821864408>  I am a bit jealous.
2014-07-30 19:15:38 <Josh Garza> Don't be, he just like anyone else
2014-07-30 19:15:44 <Josh Garza> Just smarter lol
2014-07-30 19:15:59 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I would love to meet him.
2014-07-30 19:16:13 <unknown_100345444655821864408> I am not somebody who likes famous people but I would like to shake his hand
2014-07-30 19:16:47 <Josh Garza> You can, he is pretty easy to access
2014-07-30 19:17:01 <unknown_100345444655821864408> Brb
2014-07-30 19:20:06 <Jacob Wheeling> That's pretty cool!
2014-07-30 19:21:02 <Jacob Wheeling> So you also run a Internet company Josh?
2014-07-30 19:22:49 <Josh Garza> Among other things

What the fuck....Garza is such a loser.

Edit: ran a patent search for Homero Josh Garza. Guess what? ZERO results. Surprise, surprise.

Does the fucking idiot not realize half the shit he spews out of his mouth is easy to disprove? Like "let me spend 15 seconds" easy.

(sidenote: I also tried the search with the name "Chris Smith", which yielded 16 results, so the search works)

I think he actually does own some crappy patent for some kind of iframe ad-server or something like that. Cannot remember the details, but he made a big deal about it even though it was not relevant whatsoever to zencloud.

If he does own a patent, it's not in his name.

He has a few. His real name is Homero Joshua Garza. They are all with Stuart Fraser ironically.

https://patents.justia.com/inventor/homero-joshua-garza

Crappy software patents won't help him in prison.

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[CosaNostra]

Aha! Now I see what the crystals he had on his avatar picture!

Crappy software patents won't help him in prison.

His brilliant cock might.

From: Jessica Garza <jessica@greataukwireless.com>
To: Josh <josh@gaw.com>
Subject: Good morning!
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 08:39:41 -0500

Good morning honey,

I meant to write you a note before I left. I'm sorry!  I left in task mode.
But, I just wanted to let you know I'm think about you and am very proud of
you. I was thinking about your plan regarding Paycoin last night and it is
astounding! You are so brilliant!

I just wanted you to know that I support you through all of this tough
stuff. Please let me know if I can be of any help to you!

I love you so much and can't wait to suck your brilliant cock .

I love you!

Love
Jessica

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Other than gocoin, he doesn't even appear to be trying to partner with anyone else. There's no ignored emails sent to amazon, target, shopify, paypal, tesla, etc.

That's even more premeditated. There's no to corporate@amazon.com please take my shitcoin, I already said you would.


And where's bitjane? Did he have sexual relations with her too?

[bitpop]

Is this homeros baby? Sucks for her husband, I wouldn't raise Homeros baby.

[Buckeye2015]

Something interesting here. I know that the initial Email from Josh came out a while back, but I do not recall seeing the replies that are here. Josh states flat out the the $20 Floor was a promise made to sell Paycoin and that it can not be honored, yet they intend to proceed anyways. FRAUD, plain and simple.
I think there are more emails related to this one, I will continue to chase these after the next coat of paint here.

pretty sure price manipulation is a serious crime. I imagine the US 3 letter agencies are having a field day in this inbox right now

The interesting thing about this thread.... aside from how it's better than any reality show on TV... is that the SEC is getting to see how Garza is going to defend himself over there on Hashtalk... he had an excuse for that email that made it not what it looks like it was saying...

[coinits]

This email was sent referencing this post : https://web.archive.org/web/20150103030230/https://hashtalk.org/topic/25441/paybase-launch-rescheduled




Dan K to Eric C

Good morning Eric,

Please see Dave's notes re: AML/KYC below. These are the minimum standards for compliance.
Is PayBase incorporating these steps at a minimum?

Erics reply to Dan

This post from Josh should answer your question. (No)

https://hashtalk.org/topic/25441/paybase-launch-rescheduled

(original post is deleted of course, here's the archived copy https://web.archive.org/web/20150103030230/https://hashtalk.org/topic/25441/paybase-launch-rescheduled)



Dan to Eric

Right, when I saw that post I sent it to our two lawyers for their opinion and that was their response as well.

Jonah thinks we are installing AML compliance software prior to launch.  You have not been involved in that?

Eric to Dan

No I have not been included in any conversations about that, so I cannot say for certain it's being done. I'll reach out today and ask.

didnt the ex employees say this is how gaw does business? keep employees in the dark




Eric C to Dave M (gaw attorney?) CC Evan L Joe M Jonah D

Dave,

I wanted to reach out to your directly regarding KYC/AML. The people included on this email are hands-down the most important people to have in this discussion since *we are the ones building it*. We also have a vested interest in not building something that's going to get us in trouble with FinCEN. Could you please discuss this with us to ensure we are on the right path for implementing KYC/AML into PayBase. I feel that we've been getting some watered down information through the grapevine.

This is our draft policy for KYC/AML verification tiers.
https://docs.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/spreadsheets/d/10wt_KZ2LomATBlHkNzR_3WxYZxnCsfZZmxOh607Qsps/edit?usp=sharing

Eric C to Dave M, Evan L, Joe M, Jonah D, Dan K

If I am reading these documents correctly, we *are* considered an MSB according to FinCEN. Is this correct, Dave?
Virtual currency trading platform is an MSB, FinCEN FIN-2014-R011, October 27, 2014.
Virtual currency exchangers and administrators are MSBs, but users are not, FinCEN, March 18, 2013.
December 8, 2014: SEC fines BTC Trading Corp and Ethan Burnside for unlicensed virtual currency exchange and broker-dealer violations
January 2014: WA says virtual currency is the same as money for MSB regulation purposes.
June 24, 2014: Canada amends law to make virtual currency exchanges MSBs (even Canada)

If this is true, then I assume the following also applies?

In order to comply with Federal and State statutes, MSBs are required to have AML policies. An MSB AML policy is a set of rules and procedures to prevent the introduction of the proceeds of crime into the financial system by means of an MSB. An AML policy will address, amongst other things, underwriting of new clients and transactions, OFAC checking policies, transaction limits, policies to prevent facilitation of money laundering or the funding of terrorism and policies on the reporting of suspicious transactions.
In the United States, the essential criteria for an AML policy are set out, in part, in the Bank Secrecy Act which specifies that such policies must include the following elements: (1) a system of internal controls; (2) independent testing for compliance; (3) the designation of an individual, or individuals, to coordinate and monitor day-to-day compliance; and (4) training of appropriate personnel.
Failure of an MSB to draft, adopt and honor such a policy may result in severe repercussions for the MSB and those individuals who operate the MSB.

why the fuck is the 'information security officer' having to teach everyone else laws about money businesses? either way, im convinced after reading those articles



(bunch of other emails about KYC requirements)



Joe M to Dan K, Eric C, David M, Evan L, Joe M, Jonah D, Josh mothafuckin Garza

So I assume all of this needs to take place before launch (in order to stay out of jail)?

If so, I will go ahead and set expectations by saying that a multi level verification system simply cannot be built and tested thoroughly in 1-2 days to be publicly released (even if we were not already working all weekend to prepare the software for launch).

I have plans to go live on Monday (and I think everyone else is also aware of this but please correct me if not). This being the case, and considering a multi tier verification system needs to be implemented before launch, the software release will simply not happen on Monday. We will need to scope the work and the amount of time this will take to implement and give a realistic timeline for implementation and release (assuming we cannot launch without verification levels). I will also be involving security testing and exploit pin testers for this type of addition (as this is something that simply cannot have issues considering the severity).

I will begin working on this with my team and get back to everyone with a new launch date.

Am I missing something here or is everyone now on the same page?

Here joe clearly says that ' to do this the legal way, theres no way we can launch paybase on monday '



at this point josh breaks off from the chain email and sends one only to joe, ' dude dont listen to these trolls, their just spreading FUD '
http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/04/17/ScreenShot2015-04-16at7.10.44PM.md.png



the "other email" josh referred to .... ' bro for real, fuck fincen '
http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/04/17/ScreenShot2015-04-16at7.18.50PM.md.png



another email only to joe  ' trust me dude, stuart said its cool '
http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/04/17/ScreenShot2015-04-16at7.11.07PM.md.png



this one goes out to the whole group ------ josh is all like, ' um fuck fincen, i been launderin money to dubai for months... we're launchin it anyway muahahahahahahha '
http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/04/17/ScreenShot2015-04-16at7.15.11PM.md.png



then eric grows some balls and is like 'alright bro, but just know you're goin to jail! '
http://www.anony.ws/i/2015/04/17/ScreenShot2015-04-16at7.16.10PM.md.png

this is crazy shit but also information overload at the same time! try removing the embedded images... a little better.

So I gathered from this that the company was pushing for FINCEN / AML / KYC but Josh overruled them saying that "staying in business" was more important than abiding by the law?  Damn.... The turnout of this should be interesting.

This is the email chain that will send that fucktard slimy peace of shit to prison. Also any in management that just went along with it will be going too. NICE FUCKING CATCH GUYS!

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Good morning everyone, let's get started.

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[strangerdanger101]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

[bitpop]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

Lmao

[seedtrue]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

We need to get a little exposure outside of this thread today. The HT guys are still in denial over there and do not realize the severity of Mr.CEOs actions.  

[coinits]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

We need to get a little exposure outside of this thread today. The HT guys are still in denial over there and do not realize the severity of Mr.CEOs actions.  

Wasting your time. The few that remain are not salvageable. True Kool-Aiders! Let them live in their real life Truman Show and we can keep the popcorn market afloat!

[bitpop]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

We need to get a little exposure outside of this thread today. The HT guys are still in denial over there and do not realize the severity of Mr.CEOs actions. 

Wasting your time. The few that remain are not salvageable. True Kool-Aiders! Let them live in their real life Truman Show and we can keep the popcorn market afloat!

It is not their fault they received a lobotomy.

[seedtrue]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

We need to get a little exposure outside of this thread today. The HT guys are still in denial over there and do not realize the severity of Mr.CEOs actions.  

Wasting your time. The few that remain are not salvageable. True Kool-Aiders! Let them live in their real life Truman Show and we can keep the popcorn market afloat!

Thats not entirely what I meant. I was just using them as an example that the current events are not reaching very far outside of this thread. It seems like there is more than enough stuff here for a few good news articles by at least somewhat respectable news sites.

I'm just scared we are going to go through all this work only to have it forgotten when tomorrows/nexterdays GAW scandal breaks out(whatever this may be).

[bitpop]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

We need to get a little exposure outside of this thread today. The HT guys are still in denial over there and do not realize the severity of Mr.CEOs actions.  

Wasting your time. The few that remain are not salvageable. True Kool-Aiders! Let them live in their real life Truman Show and we can keep the popcorn market afloat!

Thats not entirely what I meant. I was just using them as an example that the current events are not reaching very far outside of this thread. It seems like there is more than enough stuff here for a few good news articles by at least somewhat respectable news sites.

I'm just scared we are going to go through all this work only to have it forgotten when tomorrows/nexterdays GAW scandal breaks out(whatever this may be).

Let's interview juliets husband, I bet he has dirt on Homero

Jessica also needs to see the pregnancy mockup created, I wonder if she has a fax

[Buckeye2015]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

We need to get a little exposure outside of this thread today. The HT guys are still in denial over there and do not realize the severity of Mr.CEOs actions.  

Wasting your time. The few that remain are not salvageable. True Kool-Aiders! Let them live in their real life Truman Show and we can keep the popcorn market afloat!

Thats not entirely what I meant. I was just using them as an example that the current events are not reaching very far outside of this thread. It seems like there is more than enough stuff here for a few good news articles by at least somewhat respectable news sites.

I'm just scared we are going to go through all this work only to have it forgotten when tomorrows/nexterdays GAW scandal breaks out(whatever this may be).

Right now, it really is tabloid fodder... even though there is a lot of money involved in this scam, it's really a bunch of rich guys playing around with imaginary money and hoovering funds from some people who were not bright enough to get out sooner. There really is no 'news' story to it beyond gosip value.  Stu's firm isn't particularly interesting, Garza is literally a nobody aside from this scam, paycoinFoundationChurchGuy wasn't a pastor or anything... so, if you want to gen up mainstream news reporting, you'll have to do it at the local market level and they're not going to spend time trying to understand that mess for a 2 minute news piece.

[coinits]

Good morning everyone, let's get started.

We need to get a little exposure outside of this thread today. The HT guys are still in denial over there and do not realize the severity of Mr.CEOs actions.  

Wasting your time. The few that remain are not salvageable. True Kool-Aiders! Let them live in their real life Truman Show and we can keep the popcorn market afloat!

Thats not entirely what I meant. I was just using them as an example that the current events are not reaching very far outside of this thread. It seems like there is more than enough stuff here for a few good news articles by at least somewhat respectable news sites.

I'm just scared we are going to go through all this work only to have it forgotten when tomorrows/nexterdays GAW scandal breaks out(whatever this may be).

Let's interview juliets husband, I bet he has dirt on Homero

Can you fucking imagine that soap opera right now? Will he find out about the love child from this thread?

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[seedtrue]

Meanwhile in Homeroland ~

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Homero mommy and step daddy