GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[MrCEO]

So, MrCEO hasn't posted on hashtalk for nearly 4 days straight. This seems suspiciously quiet for him. Where is he? Any ideas? Could he finally have done a runner?

Finally realized that no one is going to follow him off the next cliff so he's backing off so that they next "completely unrelated" business he starts up has a tiny chance to be believed.

I'm awound. awynone want to talk?

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[Paul Revere]

Oh, for fuck's sake, stop being a motherfucking Josh. You were saying last night that the massive amounts of XPY being taken from the #1 address , shuffled and sent to exchanges were Zencloud payments and withdrawals. Well, why is it that damned near all of these coins end up being dumped from one or two accounts, and not dribbling out from hundreds of them? Why is it that this exact same shuffle and send to exchanges method was done when we know for sure large amounts of XPY were being moved so Josh could dump them, and now the exact same thing is still happening and your theory is that it is not the same thing being done by either him or the "Not Josh" crooks?  I keep saying nothing has changed because according to what you can see on the Blockchain NOTHING has changed.

When you say "one or two accounts", do you mean Cryptsy accounts? How did you figure that out?

A handful, tops. Just look at the charts. The dumps are done in large amounts all in one go. The amounts heading into the exchanges on any given day are not enough to fund more than a "few" accounts with these large amounts, therefore there are very few with that large of an amount. It is possible that new accounts are made on a constant basis to try to muddy the waters even further, but the fact remains that the amounts going into exchanges compared to what is dumped mean that only a couple or maybe a few accounts are accumulating enough to do the major dumps- which account for the vast majority of volume.

[D4RK5T4R]

Dubai generally follows traditional Islamic law. The accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court. This proof requires at least two witnesses testifying against him, or his confession. If he admitted to doing it and apologized, then he has already confessed.

If convicted, the sentence can be a fine, imprisonment in a very unpleasant prison (prisons there are for punishment, not rehabilitation) or even having his right hand cut off. Depending on the amount stolen, whether it was recovered and whether he is Islamic or of a different religion, the punishment can vary quite a bit. Punishments tend to be more severe for non-Islamic foreigners than for Islamic citizens of the country. If he is not a citizen there, then he will be deported after the end of his sentence.

Zen(cloud) quote:

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

[dave01]

So, MrCEO hasn't posted on hashtalk for nearly 4 days straight. This seems suspiciously quiet for him. Where is he? Any ideas? Could he finally have done a runner?

Finally realized that no one is going to follow him off the next cliff so he's backing off so that they next "completely unrelated" business he starts up has a tiny chance to be believed.

I'm awound. awynone want to talk?
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Hi josh
How are you?

[MrCEO]

So, MrCEO hasn't posted on hashtalk for nearly 4 days straight. This seems suspiciously quiet for him. Where is he? Any ideas? Could he finally have done a runner?

Finally realized that no one is going to follow him off the next cliff so he's backing off so that they next "completely unrelated" business he starts up has a tiny chance to be believed.

I'm awound. awynone want to talk?

Hi josh
How are you?

Gweat, and you?

[MrCEO]

did you guyz see i made the nytimes?

[dave01]

So, MrCEO hasn't posted on hashtalk for nearly 4 days straight. This seems suspiciously quiet for him. Where is he? Any ideas? Could he finally have done a runner?

Finally realized that no one is going to follow him off the next cliff so he's backing off so that they next "completely unrelated" business he starts up has a tiny chance to be believed.

I'm awound. awynone want to talk?

Hi josh
How are you?

Gweat, and you?

Im very well, thankyou.
Is all well with the main plan?
I do wonder

[MrCEO]

So, MrCEO hasn't posted on hashtalk for nearly 4 days straight. This seems suspiciously quiet for him. Where is he? Any ideas? Could he finally have done a runner?

Finally realized that no one is going to follow him off the next cliff so he's backing off so that they next "completely unrelated" business he starts up has a tiny chance to be believed.

I'm awound. awynone want to talk?

Hi josh
How are you?

Gweat, and you?

Im very well, thankyou.
Is all well with the main plan?
I do wonder

its going gweat. eveone beweives me dat i have nofing to do wit paycorn anymowe, i relax in duaba and chave fun,

[dave01]

Very good
Thats all i needeed to know
Glad to hear you are ok.

[MrCEO]

did you guyz see i made the nytimes?

[dave01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP8_w1J5raY

[rawbot]

Oh, for fuck's sake, stop being a motherfucking Josh. You were saying last night that the massive amounts of XPY being taken from the #1 address , shuffled and sent to exchanges were Zencloud payments and withdrawals. Well, why is it that damned near all of these coins end up being dumped from one or two accounts, and not dribbling out from hundreds of them? Why is it that this exact same shuffle and send to exchanges method was done when we know for sure large amounts of XPY were being moved so Josh could dump them, and now the exact same thing is still happening and your theory is that it is not the same thing being done by either him or the "Not Josh" crooks?  I keep saying nothing has changed because according to what you can see on the Blockchain NOTHING has changed.

Just remember who Miaviator is Paul when making judgements on the motivation for his posts.  Some people believe he should face criminal prosecution for his role in this fraud.  That's who you are communicating with.

Sorry MrCEO,  you are back on ignore for being a poor "SeriousInvest" Wannabe.

[dave01]

Its not that easy getting off this roundabout you know.

[favdesu]

Dubai generally follows traditional Islamic law. The accused is presumed innocent until proven guilty in court. This proof requires at least two witnesses testifying against him, or his confession. If he admitted to doing it and apologized, then he has already confessed.

If convicted, the sentence can be a fine, imprisonment in a very unpleasant prison (prisons there are for punishment, not rehabilitation) or even having his right hand cut off. Depending on the amount stolen, whether it was recovered and whether he is Islamic or of a different religion, the punishment can vary quite a bit. Punishments tend to be more severe for non-Islamic foreigners than for Islamic citizens of the country. If he is not a citizen there, then he will be deported after the end of his sentence.

Zen(cloud) quote:

What is the sound of one hand clapping?

if you're happy and you know it clap your ha- oh sorry about that :p

[truckinusa]

I think the most probable answer is that whoever controls Zencloud is dumping stake. There's a big difference between the stake rate of hashstakers and the stake rate of a prime controller. Those transfers out could easily be stake going to a set of wallets, then either being withdrawn by hashstaker owners or dumped on an exchange. It's a mix, which is why it looks like a jumble.

That's also why the numbers wouldn't add up. Only some of the transfers are to ordinary users. Whoever controls the Zencloud wallet ('mk', I guess, though I haven't checked the sig) could easily be both dumping and filling user accounts. There's enough stake for both.

I said this on the hangout.  They need to close Zencloud.  It serves absolutely no purpose except whoever is receiving the $37,000 a month it costs to run it.(That was the cost told to me on the hangout)  Before or after it is closed we need to see all the in and out addresses of bitcoin so we can total up how much has been stolen.  It should be very easy for @Paul Revere to figure out how much Garza has by those addresses.

No one is receiving $37K a month to run it.  Just like mississippi isn't getting their $350K.  This is the payment address which was posted elsewhere for the monthly contract fee: BTC: 19krd1w3S66r3abj8ZgLWC5NsK5LSVPPvr

I don't doubt anyone is not getting the money that is owed to them or the $37,000 a month is just a number that will never be paid.  I am just saying that Zencloud should be shut down immediately because it serves no purposed and the bitcoin addresses that were used on that system should be posted.  It would make it a lot easier to understand what was going on and sue for fraud.  I am sure an attorney can get them if need be.

[miaviator]

And dora is shadow banned



@PEARSON1FIED said:

@DoraTheExplorer He is Paycoin Foundation CEO who (with his team) stole Prime controllers from GAW. If I remember correctly.

@DoraTheExplorer said:

Ah, I see now, turns out he is on that hangout right now. It's Adam Matlack, not Matlock and he is the President of "The Paycoin Foundation" a Texas not for profit company.

Mr Matlack was nice enough to provide this document which factually disputes your baseless claim. https://i.imgur.com/dAQNId9.jpg Since there is no suits pending in texas, the property is under the control of Mr Matlack, and Mr Matlack posesses a signed reciept, it is clear that the property in question is his.

Although, I am uncertain what this property is it would seem irrelevant in context since you provided an accusation and the party to that accusation provided 3 pieces of proof of ownership. I have informed Mr Matlack that he should pursue defamation charges against you as you are making false statements of fact about him and his organization.

[Franz_Huber]

I can't see XPY on bitcoinwisdom.com anymore. I like that. Does anyone know what happened? 

[Crestington]

This DoraTheExplorer is a fairly smart cookie and does his research, lol.

[suchmoon]

And dora is shadow banned

Does that mean MrCEO is still on the loose?

[Paul Revere]

I can't see XPY on bitcoinwisdom.com anymore. I like that. Does anyone know what happened? 

Not sure if it was down, but it is up right now. Huge dumpage from single accounts again. Why is it so hard to see that there is only a few accounts doing the massive dumpage, and that there are never huge deposits to the exchanges? They are mostly coming in tiny deposits from what is said to be Zencloud payouts- so why are they accumulating in just a couple of accounts, and why would someone go through all the trouble of hundreds of small deposits if they are not trying to hide the origin of the coins?


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