GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[I_IZ_CEO]

Try subtle backhanded compliments... works fine

Oh I am being far more surreptitous than that

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

I almost pissed my pants when you posted that on HT.







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Maursader.. Last post 12 days ago. last online 7 days ago.. Vacation??

[Paul Revere]

@ Wafflemaster: Did you notice that "Waffle" is in the Tag Cloud on Rootdudes new CLoudMinerNews blog? Not sure if there is a connection but it seemed odd...

Edit to add: Looks like he is still cruising this thread, because he decided to take all of the Paycoin/GAW tags off of his blog. Who knows, maybe he has woken from the deep GAW trance he was in...

[ddalex]

You can only tip Bitcoin at the XPY blockchain. Unfucking believable.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy

Think more It's the developper of https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ with much more coins who asks tips in BTC

[owlcatz]

You can only tip Bitcoin at the XPY blockchain. Unfucking believable.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy

Think more It's the developper of https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ with much more coins who asks tips in BTC

Fairglu has run it since April of last year actually - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=571254.0

[bumpershot]

As far as I can tell from the internet, to call an action a fraud requires that it has three elements.

• a false statement or misrepresentation of a material fact
• intent to deceive
• damages as a result of the deception

The first one is easy peasy, as there are plenty of records of falsehoods that were later edited out of existence, most notably the magnitude of the price support behind XPY. You can also add merchant support, etc. as things that were misrepresented.

The second is a little trickier. They can attribute a good number of the false statements to internal communication errors. The trick here is to get access to their internal communication. I'm guessing that those message board posts the CEO made prior to all of this, while not absolutely conclusive, might be enough to get a warrant for internal emails and private online messages.

The third one is trickier than it sounds. The most brilliant move they made was to convert those hashpoints to paycoins and let people sell them on the market. That reduced the number of potential claims, as most people who wanted out at that point sold their coins, at a profit, to those who wanted to stay in. This is in line with a lot of the private messages that have been posted on the board. The CEO didn't want customers who asked questions or otherwise didn't agree to follow him blindly. He banned liberally anyone who wasn't on board. That way all of the liability lands in the hands of a few true believers who are likely to blame external forces (dumpers, regulatory agencies, etc.) for their losses instead of GAW. They can probably handle a couple of malcontents with decent settlements. The people who didn't buy in completely pretty much all made money or broke even.

[bumpershot]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

[clownius]

Every time i look on HT recently there is BuckRogers being a general asshat and abusing everyone.  The Mods ignore this because he has faith and ban people who ask questions.  Great mods

[AnimoEsto]

Every time i look on HT recently there is BuckRogers being a general asshat and abusing everyone.  The Mods ignore this because he has faith and ban people who ask questions.  Great mods

At the moment, some of the regular mods (and staff) cant login.

If you have cleared your Hashtalk Cookies, then you cant log back in, if you are currently logged in, you cant logout.

Seems NodeBB screwed up

[vancefox]

You can only tip Bitcoin at the XPY blockchain. Unfucking believable.
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy

Think more It's the developper of https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ with much more coins who asks tips in BTC

Would you want XPY for tips?  I'd rather have CON... more stable.

[10BTCaDay]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Any research done on Joe Mordica comes up to a dead person.
wtf

[10BTCaDay]

What a tool.

[suchmoon]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Any research done on Joe Mordica comes up to a dead person.
wtf

Even if he's a zombie, does it really make any difference? Come one guys, give it a rest

Better come up with some new theories on how this mess can be spinned... spun... whatever, how to make it sound like a grand achievement. I'm sure the CEO is watching this thread and waiting for ideas and you're letting him down.

[CoinFire]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Any research done on Joe Mordica comes up to a dead person.
wtf

Even if he's a zombie, does it really make any difference? Come one guys, give it a rest

Better come up with some new theories on how this mess can be spinned... spun... whatever, how to make it sound like a grand achievement. I'm sure the CEO is watching this thread and waiting for ideas and you're letting him down.

Perhaps he should start making calls to the SEC Enforcement division. I'm sure they can give him some ideas.

[10BTCaDay]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Any research done on Joe Mordica comes up to a dead person.
wtf

Even if he's a zombie, does it really make any difference? Come one guys, give it a rest

Better come up with some new theories on how this mess can be spinned... spun... whatever, how to make it sound like a grand achievement. I'm sure the CEO is watching this thread and waiting for ideas and you're letting him down.

Perhaps he should start making calls to the SEC Enforcement division. I'm sure they can give him some ideas.

There were some rumors that you picked up some SEC paperwork recently? Can nothing be released yet?

[elkrisi]

As far as I can tell from the internet, to call an action a fraud requires that it has three elements.

• a false statement or misrepresentation of a material fact
• intent to deceive
• damages as a result of the deception

The first one is easy peasy, as there are plenty of records of falsehoods that were later edited out of existence, most notably the magnitude of the price support behind XPY. You can also add merchant support, etc. as things that were misrepresented.

The second is a little trickier. They can attribute a good number of the false statements to internal communication errors. The trick here is to get access to their internal communication. I'm guessing that those message board posts the CEO made prior to all of this, while not absolutely conclusive, might be enough to get a warrant for internal emails and private online messages.

The third one is trickier than it sounds. The most brilliant move they made was to convert those hashpoints to paycoins and let people sell them on the market. That reduced the number of potential claims, as most people who wanted out at that point sold their coins, at a profit, to those who wanted to stay in. This is in line with a lot of the private messages that have been posted on the board. The CEO didn't want customers who asked questions or otherwise didn't agree to follow him blindly. He banned liberally anyone who wasn't on board. That way all of the liability lands in the hands of a few true believers who are likely to blame external forces (dumpers, regulatory agencies, etc.) for their losses instead of GAW. They can probably handle a couple of malcontents with decent settlements. The people who didn't buy in completely pretty much all made money or broke even.

No, the intent to deceive is proven by the fact that at the time they published their whitepaper and at the time they announced support of big merchants they fully well knew that they were lying. Their announcements were crafted to create false anticipation and they represented false facts such as Amazon acceptance as true.
 

[doogsan]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Any research done on Joe Mordica comes up to a dead person.
wtf

Yeah we talked about that like 400 pages ago. It seems like identity theft might seriously be a part of this as well. It just doesn't seem to end.

[Paul Revere]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Oh ya, this guy is who is he says he is for sure. See, he spray painted Paycoin on the wall to prove it! There is even some paint on his graffiti finger. What more proof do you need that he's legit?



Look! He even added his name. Legit for sure!

[10BTCaDay]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Oh ya, this guy is who is he says he is for sure. See, he spray painted Paycoin on the wall to prove it! There is even some paint on his graffiti finger. What more proof do you need that he's legit?

Okay, somewhat funny but we should stay on topic.

So whats the news on the SEC Mr. Confire?

[NuShrike]

As far as I can tell from the internet, to call an action a fraud requires that it has three elements.

Go back pages and find the KNCMiner forum posts. It laid out his master plan in public.

[CoinFire]

The main reason I'm sticking around this thread, though, is to find out "Joe Mordica's" real name.

Any research done on Joe Mordica comes up to a dead person.
wtf

Even if he's a zombie, does it really make any difference? Come one guys, give it a rest

Better come up with some new theories on how this mess can be spinned... spun... whatever, how to make it sound like a grand achievement. I'm sure the CEO is watching this thread and waiting for ideas and you're letting him down.

Perhaps he should start making calls to the SEC Enforcement division. I'm sure they can give him some ideas.

There were some rumors that you picked up some SEC paperwork recently? Can nothing be released yet?

We are working on it. The biggest thing is we have to protect our source and so that means combing through things and redacting sections.

Also we have an attorney reviewing materials so it is going to take a bit of time but we are working up at least something to release.

We know if we just outright say we have X that many will say it is FUD and doubt the documents. The more we can release or show all at once the better.

Plus we don't want to compromise the investigation so it is a difficult and hard process. The last time we had documents like this it took several weeks before we released a redacted PDF.