GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[Buckeye2015]

Fake registration information. Company is registered in the UK. Not Hong Kong. Generally grounds for domain seizure

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

Phone number in Bellevue, WA, USA. It seems they are struggling with this newfangled transparency thing.

The Mineral.com registrar is joker.com - a German company:

Registry Registrant ID:  
Registrant Name: provided for EIS Europaeische Internet Service AG
Registrant Organization: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH
Registrant Street: Hansaallee 191-193
Registrant City: Duesseldorf
Registrant Postal Code: 40549
Registrant Country: DE
Registrant Phone: +49.211867670
Registrant Email: Email Masking Image@joker.com
Registry Admin ID:

That phone number is associated to web hosting companies. It's found in:
- 2008 RipOffReport: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/web-host-for-seo/bellevue-washington-98007/web-host-for-seo-webhostforseocom-by-todd-spears-total-junk-massive-amounts-of-downtim-391035
- Unknown date? "BestWebDesigner.com" profile at same address: http://www.ibegin.com/directory/us/washington/bellevue/bestwebsitesdesignercom-pmb-368-14150-ne-20th-st-f1-co-bestwebsitesdesignercom/

So, I'm thinking the phone number if probably from the original Mineral.com owner who may have been a squatter just trying to sell it since about 2005.

BUT, it is interesting that when they moved it in March, it went under a US based domain privacy provider with a BBB rating of D- (you can practically hand the BBB $100 and get an A+ no matter how many complaints you have) that uses that phone number...

Registrant Organization: WHOIS PRIVACY PROTECTION SERVICE, INC.
Registrant Street: C/O MINERAL.COM
Registrant City: KIRKLAND
Registrant Postal Code: 98083
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657
Registrant Email: @whoisprivacyprotect.com

You can read their BBB complaints here: http://www.bbb.org/alaskaoregonwesternwashington/business-reviews/internet-web-hosting/whois-privacy-protection-service-inc-in-kirkland-wa-22419922/complaints#breakdown

AND... I didn't search for crap.. this is all the first stuff that comes up on Google... so these people are pond scum.

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[suchmoon]

Fake registration information. Company is registered in the UK. Not Hong Kong. Generally grounds for domain seizure

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

Phone number in Bellevue, WA, USA. It seems they are struggling with this newfangled transparency thing.

Right @suchmoon, real smart to leave my real number for you all guys to call me. Why don't you post your mobile while you're at it and we post it on HT? See how it feels being attacked for once.

Are you threatening me?

No worries, your buddy Garza has done plenty of that and see where that got him.

How about you start with posting those TX IDs for the FastXPY challenge bounty?

You don't become honest and transparent by incessantly posting on a forum how honest and transparent you are. You just behave like an honest and transparent person/business, it's as simple as that.

As for my phone number... my customers have it, along with my REAL business address and plenty of other personal contact information. Nobody attacked me yet, there must be a reason for that.

So cut the crap. I'm not the one taking "people's money" to a supposedly offshore website, you are.

[Paul Revere]

Fake registration information. Company is registered in the UK. Not Hong Kong. Generally grounds for domain seizure

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

Phone number in Bellevue, WA, USA. It seems they are struggling with this newfangled transparency thing.

Right @suchmoon, real smart to leave my real number for you all guys to call me. Why don't you post your mobile while you're at it and we post it on HT? See how it feels being attacked for once.

That is so right, Here are Suchmoon's contact#s, in case you have anything you would like to talk about.

Work: 888-622-0117
Mobile: 800-732-0330
Home: 800-829-0433

Or , you can just Email here. Or his other , more private Email here.

Sorry, Suchmoon. I know you trusted me with your private information, but I think this Phil really needs to make these calls. Glad I could help out such a trustworthy member of this community. Have a nice day, Phil!

[maildir]

Can you put down the tinnies and translate this gobbledegook into English please:

It seems their not as bright to look up to see that HK was indeed registered first and the UK company is just for the office in the UK.

1. Hong Kong is XPY Limited
2. UK is Mineral International Limited

Web site is trading under the UK registered name.

The UK company that is just for the office in the UK is called Mineral International Limited, the name under which the exchange is trading. What does "just" mean in this instance?

[vancefox]

End of the day - the project is a few days old, getting attacked as we are now is out of order - I know you have your personal vendetta against Garza so take it up on him and not me. If any of you want to talk to me let me know, or come visit me in Australia instead of bashing a guy without any real evidence.

The project was first announced as a pre-announcement picture which therefore leads one to believe that Mr. Garza was involved in this new few days old project before it became a few days old project...

Because of this, you are associated with him and his currently and massively (in my opinion) failing company/coin.

Either deal with it or prove beyond a reasonable (and by reasonable I mean deemed reasonable by a non-hashtalk member) doubt that Mr. Garza is not in any way associated with your exchange.

[maildir]

End of the day - the project is a few days old, getting attacked as we are now is out of order - I know you have your personal vendetta against Garza so take it up on him and not me. If any of you want to talk to me let me know, or come visit me in Australia instead of bashing a guy without any real evidence.

what happened to josh@mineral.com then?

When was that? we only recently bought the domain name and cannot speak for the previous usage of it. There isn't only one Josh in this world unfortunately.

lol

[Buckeye2015]

Yes it's called a Registrar Service Provider which can be located anywhere in the World. Ditto.

Dude... your registrar, joker.com, is a German company. They don't need an HK address to register .com domain names. I'm in the US and for a long time all my domains were registered by 1&1 while they were still only Germany based... they had NO US office at that time and my servers all sat in Germany... so, not buying it :-)

[jimmothy]

http://www.oneibc.com.hk/fees

Total Cost (USD) 299


 

Does that come in with a HK bank account? Mail forwarding etc? Didn't think so.

Who can I call to make sure your totally legit exchange is fully insured?

[Buckeye2015]

That is so right, Here are Suchmoon's contact#s, in case you have anything you would like to talk about.

Work: 888-622-0117
Mobile: 800-732-0330
Home: 800-829-0433

Or , you can just Email here. Or his other , more private Email here.

Sorry, Suchmoon. I know you trusted me with your private information, but I think this Phil really needs to make these calls. Glad I could help out such a trustworthy member of this community. Have a nice day, Phil!

OMG... I knew what would come up when I Googled it and still made me laugh!

[inspirone1]

End of the day - the project is a few days old, getting attacked as we are now is out of order - I know you have your personal vendetta against Garza so take it up on him and not me. If any of you want to talk to me let me know, or come visit me in Australia instead of bashing a guy without any real evidence.

what happened to josh@mineral.com then?

When was that? we only recently bought the domain name and cannot speak for the previous usage of it. There isn't only one Josh in this world unfortunately.

 Why in the world would you keep mineral up as obviously it is very tainted yet only a few days after launch. If I were you I would scrap it and start over with a different name completely not associated with gaw. Take anything gaw gave you and give him the finger like he has done to everyone else.

[vancefox]

what happened to josh@mineral.com then?

When was that? we only recently bought the domain name and cannot speak for the previous usage of it. There isn't only one Josh in this world unfortunately.

josh@mineral.com - Result: Ok

MX record about mineral.com exists.
Connection succeeded to alt2.aspmx.l.google.com SMTP.
220 mx.google.com ESMTP fy14si408145wic.110 - gsmtp

> HELO geniusesatwork.com
250 mx.google.com at your service

> MAIL FROM: <jessica@geniusesatwork.com>
=250 2.1.0 OK fy14si408145wic.110 - gsmtp

> RCPT TO: <josh@mineral.com>

Zee interwebs der... be mwey fwrends

EDIT** - So did you "buy" mineral.com from Mr. Garza?

[ladrx]

End of the day - the project is a few days old, getting attacked as we are now is out of order - I know you have your personal vendetta against Garza so take it up on him and not me. If any of you want to talk to me let me know, or come visit me in Australia instead of bashing a guy without any real evidence.

Hey Phil, come check out the new subreddit I set up for Mineral!:

http://www.reddit.com/r/mineral

[maildir]

http://www.oneibc.com.hk/fees

Total Cost (USD) 299


 

Does that come in with a HK bank account? Mail forwarding etc? Didn't think so.

Yeah ANOTHER USD299 for all of that.

http://www.oneibc.com.hk/fees

what are we up to 600 USD so far.  Just how unsuccessful are you in life?

[coinits]

End of the day - the project is a few days old, getting attacked as we are now is out of order - I know you have your personal vendetta against Garza so take it up on him and not me. If any of you want to talk to me let me know, or come visit me in Australia instead of bashing a guy without any real evidence.

I would suggest that you do an interview with Mike Johnson of coinfire.io; if he is willing to do it.

[Buckeye2015]

http://www.oneibc.com.hk/fees

Total Cost (USD) 299


 

Does that come in with a HK bank account? Mail forwarding etc? Didn't think so.

Who can I call to make sure your totally legit exchange is fully insured?

Wait... the principle is in Australia, the regestrar German, the HQ UK, the operating center HK, and they're trading imaginary money (securities) on a global scale...
I think you need to call the tooth fairy for insurance on that mess.

[vizique]

So Mineral plans on being an exchange connected somehow to the UK?
This will be interesting as I am currently working closely with a leading legal (crypto specialists) company as my business is in similar fields and as such we have had to tread very carefully with licensing and what we can and can't do within legal/license parameters when handling, buying and selling BTC and digital currency.

We are also working with a few exchanges/processors so have a clear understanding of whats required to make this all work.

KYC and AML being the most obvious ball-aches and something that for some reason gets mentioned so rarely here by people who are planning to take over the world with their grand visions. Now, remotely operating a business of this nature? Good luck, you may need it. The regulatory requirements alone will have you jumping through hoops. And don't try to launch a service without the right paperwork, cardinal sin and worthy of a real ass kicking from the law...

[Buckeye2015]

http://www.oneibc.com.hk/fees

Total Cost (USD) 299


 

Does that come in with a HK bank account? Mail forwarding etc? Didn't think so.

Yeah ANOTHER USD299 for all of that.

http://www.oneibc.com.hk/fees

what are we up to 600 USD so far.  Just how unsuccessful are you in life?

Did you count in that $6 "Comming Soon" theme?  That was schweeeeet!

[ladrx]

So Mineral plans on being an exchange connected somehow to the UK?
This will be interesting as I am currently working closely with a leading legal (crypto specialists) company as my business is in similar fields and as such we have had to tread very carefully with licensing and what we can and can't do within legal/license parameters when handling, buying and selling BTC and digital currency.

We are also working with a few exchanges/processors so have a clear understanding of whats required to make this all work.

KYC and AML being the most obvious ball-aches and something that for some reason gets mentioned so rarely here by people who are planning to take over the world with their grand visions. Now, remotely operating a business of this nature? Good luck, you may need it. The regulatory requirements alone will have you jumping through hoops. And don't try to launch a service without the right paperwork, cardinal sin and worthy of a real ass kicking from the law...

Interesting insight. Josh and his new buddy Phil, however, have the advantage that they don't give a fuck about regulatory requirements. I would bet every paycoin I own that Josh couldn't tell us what those KYC/AML acronyms even mean (j/k I don't have any fucking paycoin).

[maildir]

Ah isn't that sweet I vaguely remember your name from the Alpha Tech thread.

While we and several others were informing you that it was all a scam way back when, you were posting this:

I'm very optimistic and liking how this is going so far, I'm just glad I pre-ordered and not listened to the trolls. The Scrypt market is going to be big in 2014-2015 and getting first dips on ASIC hardware will be a massive advantage.

How sad you got it all wrong back then.

[maildir]

Can you put down the tinnies and translate this gobbledegook into English please:

It seems their not as bright to look up to see that HK was indeed registered first and the UK company is just for the office in the UK.

1. Hong Kong is XPY Limited
2. UK is Mineral International Limited

Web site is trading under the UK registered name.

The UK company that is just for the office in the UK is called Mineral International Limited, the name under which the exchange is trading. What does "just" mean in this instance?

It means we're set up the UK company and will use it for our development and support team that we're building, while the HK company will hold all the company's assets.

Yes, but why trade as in do business under the UK company name and not the Hong Kong company name. Or even simpler why did you not register Mineral International Limited in Hong Kong from day one.